I Need Some Leg Day Advice

I decided to join a better gym.

I also switched to Split-Routines.
I want to a try Legs-Push-Pull for a while.

Hamstring training is what confuses me:

I plan on doing Back Squats and Leg Press on Leg day, with Sumo Deadlifts on Pull Day.

If I am doing deadlifts on Pull day should I even bother with Hamstring Isoloation?

If so, do I add them to Leg Day or Pull Day…I don’t like Leg Curl Machines.

How wide are your squats?

What’re your goals?

I mean, if you’re a powerlifter with a wide squat I’d say hell yeah you need more pos chain work.

[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
I decided to join a better gym.

I also switched to Split-Routines.
I want to a try Legs-Push-Pull for a while.

Hamstring training is what confuses me:

I plan on doing Back Squats and Leg Press on Leg day, with Sumo Deadlifts on Pull Day.

If I am doing deadlifts on Pull day should I even bother with Hamstring Isoloation?

If so, do I add them to Leg Day or Pull Day…I don’t like Leg Curl Machines.

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Why not do some pull-throughs or 45 degree back extensions in addition to the sumo DL’s on pull day? They would seem to compliment your focus for that day. Just a thought.

[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
How wide are your squats?

What’re your goals?

I mean, if you’re a powerlifter with a wide squat I’d say hell yeah you need more pos chain work.[/quote]

My squats are rather Narrow and Deep for now, today was my first time Back Squating in over 3 years, I may change it up down the road.

My goals are mainly bodybuilding/hypertrophy oriented.

I like the Powerbuilding concept of basing my physique training around big compound lifts.

I have zero Powerlifting goals.

There’s no such thing as muscle isolation-the body works as a single harmonious unit. So, you really be doing movements that hit the posterior chain trememdously-3 times a week. Snatch Deadlifts, Glute-Ham Raises, Russian Split Jumps, Good Mornings, Good Morning Squats, etc. are all great choices.

[quote]Kuz wrote:
Dirty Tiger wrote:
I decided to join a better gym.

I also switched to Split-Routines.
I want to a try Legs-Push-Pull for a while.

Hamstring training is what confuses me:

I plan on doing Back Squats and Leg Press on Leg day, with Sumo Deadlifts on Pull Day.

If I am doing deadlifts on Pull day should I even bother with Hamstring Isoloation?

If so, do I add them to Leg Day or Pull Day…I don’t like Leg Curl Machines.

Why not do some pull-throughs or 45 degree back extensions in addition to the sumo DL’s on pull day? They would seem to compliment your focus for that day. Just a thought.[/quote]

I found some articles talking about Pullthroughs but no how-to.

Any links?

Since you like compound stuff, try adding some good mornings or Romanian deadlifts after your sumo deads.

I have honestly never seen a body builder or someone who trains mainly to look better with hamstrings that are too big.

i would say definatly hit them with another movement.

from personal experiance none of the exercises you mentioned have done much for hamstring growth (though conventional/sumo deads I only do for lower reps) but I have had great success with good mornings, romanian deadlifts, and pull throughs

I’d say maybe a little extra work, but nothing huge, some GHRs on pulling day or some pullthroughs.

Quads get bigger, but don’t neglect the hammies.

i do three fullbody workouts a week and for legs all i do is deadlift, squat and some unilateral work, i was doing single leg leg presses and single leg curls (as im too heavy to do single leg squats) but i think im going to do single leg RDL’s and lunges, but should i be doing any other postieror chain work? i do pull ups and chins and rows but im not sure if i need more lower body work

One of the most badass hamstring days I have ever done consisted of the following exercises:

-Sumo Deadlifts (3 sets of 6)
-Seated hamstring curls (3 sets of 8)
-Weighted roman chair hyperextensions (3 sets of 10)

Another good hamstring day was like this:

-Straight-legged deadlifts (4 sets of 10)
-One-legged standing hamstring curls (3 sets of 8)
-Cable Pull-throughs (3 sets of 8)

This may not seem too crazy, but it works.

My hamstrings are growing pretty well by doing exercises like this. I usually follow the concept of 2 pulling exercises that involve the lower back, and 1 flexion exercise like the hamstring curl. Just deadlifts alone is not enough for the normal person to get the hamstring growth you’re looking for.

[quote]MichaelJohnson wrote:
There’s no such thing as muscle isolation-the body works as a single harmonious unit.

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What? So, I can’t isolate my biceps? My hamstrings must be involved? the body does work as a whole. However, you can also isolate certain muscle groups.