I’m Embarrassed by Americans, Disgusted Even

I stooped to your level, because I’m embarassed by your thread, disgusted even.

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Ok. Anything else?

Thanks for sharing. Life couldn’t go on without that.

BTW, American isn’t a race so trying to drag me into a racial argument is rather weak. If someone equates American with white, then maybe they’re the racist.

Ok, but the numbers are less bad than none at all.

The only way to get the stat you want is to test literally everyone. We don’t have that capacity right now, and the only countries that do (South Korea, etc) aren’t publicly sharing their hospitalization rate.

Number similar to the ones I and Loppar gave are what is currently guiding public policy. And in any case, when preparing for hospital surge it is advisable to take the worst case scenario are your top end.

Most of the people agreed with the OP. I don’t think anyone thinks all Americans are acting the same but we do tend to use the blanket terms on here for better or worse. I think almost everyone who has posted here has been guilty of it on numerous occasions.

Fellas I drank more beer than I should have tonight. Sorry. Should of.

This wouldn’t have happened, had I not hoarded beer in the earlier stages of the quarantine yesterday.

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Have you considered the amount of risk being sober puts those you are quarantined with?

Reminder that in these hard time if you’re feeling sick you should see doctor worm!

Apologies but I had never heard this song until the other day and I can’t get over the absurdity. Daughter loves it of course. We finally got over baby shark after a period of mild frozen addiction.

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Game changer.
Maybe the world will be okay, after all.

Frozen II tho…
eh, didn"t see your last statement.

We haven’t seen it yet! We were addicted to let it go from the first one and she “forgot” about the second one or never realized or something.

We had a streak of like 300 days in a row of dance party to let it go. It was my Great Depression moment…

I don’t think I’m an asshole parent by any means but we are very restrictive of electronic time. Don’t really want her vocabulary to be solely developed by Peppa Pig.

My wife and I, prior to having kids, but being big Disney fans, saw Frozen in movie theaters, and were so flabbergasted by how bad the movie was we left before it even ended. Our kids completely avoided the Let It Go phrase, since the eldest was born in '15, and we were worried about Frozen II when it came out, but my wife asked my son about seeing it one day and he was like “No mommy, that’s a GIRL movie.”

And I knew I was safe.

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They Might Be Giants are amazing. You’ve been missing out!

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They’re illustrating the point that when it comes to events whose distributed is fat tailed, meaning that the probability of a catastrophic event is non-negligible.

If we apply the “but the economy” logic, then no one would care about counter terrorism efforts and would disband the TSA. Less than 4k Americans were killed by terrorists in the last 20 years which is much less than the flu so let’s not incur additional economic damage and let people board planes hassle free.

The problem is that terrorism, much like the current pandemic has a non-negligible probability of catastrophic consequences, meaning millions of casualties. So that’s why comparing terrorism to diabetes or Covid-19 to seasonal flu does not make sense because the distribution of outcomes is vastly different.

Which brings us to the original point, what is “acceptable” risk for an individual? You expose yourself to risk when you get out of your house. You can get run over by a bus on crossing the street. However, your death does not represent a major threat to the system as a whole.

Hell, even if we imagine the most irresponsible scenario for an individual’s behavior where you take a shitload of meth, get in your car and front end a bus, the ensuing body count, while having catastrophic consequences for a local community does not represent a catastrophic event for a larger entity, a state or the whole country.

The pandemic is vastly different.

As those two examples have shown above, one irresponsible decision in a pandemic means that thousands may subsequently die, because the distribution of event probabilities is different.

The answer to a seemingly absurd question from the example above - can you kill a couple of hundred people by waiting tables with a slight fever - is a resounding yes.

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Yes, u know it is a easy exercice, if u long ur life actually, and if u look in the past all of us have a “king life” the only things that we don’t have, the only big problem it its the time, they steel ur time, but the comfort and so on is definetly to much or for sure enough, we have everything.

We need defintly to change ur way to live, this crisis it is just a advertisment, in the futur the problem will be more difficult, so we really need to change, if u don’t change, a lot of peoples will die, not like a flu or a cornoavirus more even than a war

if peoples a clever, they need to save money, and to buy a space for make their vegetable and so on, we need to be more self-sufficiency

Are there many that DON’T want to get rid of the TSA?

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“Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.”
Albert Einstein
“A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth.”
Albert Einstein
“Two things can be infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.”
Albert Einstein
“One cannot alter a condition with the same mind set that created it in the first place.”
Albert Einstein

He understood humanity better than physics! Never agreed with him on quantum issues.

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You would still have some agency doing security at airports. Disbanding the TSA is not the same as zero airport security.

This deserves emphasis.

Thanks, @loppar.

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Grass is green. The sky is blue. How does your response relate to my post?