I’m an idiot. I bought a tren mix, I’ve never done a cycle other than high dose Test C hormone therapy, if you count that

I bought trenbo mix (A-E-H) from Aslan Pharma, I trust the website I source from so I am not worried about that. I’m worried about how this will affect me. I have my mind set on doing it, but I’m worried. I’m not very muscular right now but I work out constantly, about 2 times a day. It might be my diet. I plan to switch it up while on tren.

I’ve looked into the side effects. I’m not worried about most, except for the cough and the long term effects. What can I expect? Is it worth it? I plan to run it for a long time, starting with about 80mg/wk maybe. I’m 5’9 and 160lbs.

Jesus Christ what the fuck is my username?

you shouldn’t be running ANY gear, to be honest.

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I am your height, and at 160lbs, I would never consider any manner of steroid.

I agree with your topic title.

No.

Yes. And your training. Training 2 times a day is not allowing you much opportunity to recover and grow.

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0 business using steroids especially not tren.

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It’s definitely the long term sides you should be worried about, neuro/cardio/hepa - toxic substance. It can have profound impact on your mental health (probably the scariest side effect if it were me).

What can you expect, well you are by your own definition, not very big, inconsistent with your training (about 2 times per day - is it 2 time per day? The fact you are able to train “about” 2 times per day means you really aren’t training hard enough in the first place), inconsistent with your diet, so you can expect lackluster results, even with Tren, when you stop using they results will go away.

Is it worth it, for you, no. For anyone, probably not, but everyone has free agency, and I guess you probably need it to get to the top I’m competitive bodybuilding?

Will you do it anyway? Probably, self confessed idiot, and:

I’ll leave it on this - you’ve clearly never done this before, and instead of buying the shortest acting ester, you bought a mix of 3 esters, that speaks volumes about your understanding.

TLDR: don’t do it.

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Best response I’ve received so far. Genuinely explaining, thank you.

From what my friends have told me since this post, (I sent a photo, asked for their feedback) I actually do have a decent amount of muscle for being natty, having a shit diet, and not rigorously working out. I just have a higher body fat than I would like to have due to my drinking, but I plan to stop while on tren as to not ruin my liver even more.

When I say about two times a day, I mean at least two times a day, but recently it’s gone up to 4. I take rest days on Sundays. Ever since I got my mind on tren I’ve been locked the fuck in.

I have started to eat healthier- I think. I mainly eat meat. Chicken 3 times a day, protein shakes inbetween, and salads.

My logic is insane when it comes to taking risks, but I think I’ll make it out alive. Fingers crossed though.

I have a strict routine set up for when I start.

Dude please consider training for a few more years before getting into using gear, especially Tren! Tren is a mental health disaster waiting to happen.

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Great advice, but somehow the mental affects don’t scare me. I had a huge psych episode when I was younger which probably means I’m predisposed to it, yes, but I believe I’ll know how to deal with it. My health is monitored and I’m currently in therapy and many support groups.

Post it up.

Why do people think steroids are a magic bullet that will lasting and measurably overcome shortfalls in training and diet? Will it work while you are ‘on’… for sure. Guess what happens when you stop?

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Once again, as someone your height, I feel this is not a good approach for adding muscle

Those are a LOT of qualifiers

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I don’t think you have any idea what your doing.
Not one person on here had told you what you want to do is a good idea. In fact everyone has told you not to do it.
How about getting “locked the fuck in” for 6-8 months and then consider using drugs?

I’ll leave you with this. The first time you use tren you should be using tren ace at a low dose to make sure you don’t have any bad side effects and if you do the acetate ester will clear pretty fast. The mix you have chosen has hexy ester in it which is very long. If you have issues you will have to wait weeks for it to clear.
The smart thing to do is hold off until you get consistent with proper diet and training for an extended period.
Also, tren is not some thing you “run for a long time”. It is pretty toxic and the longer you run it the more prone you’ll be to mental side effects.

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At least your being proactive and watching out for your health and wellbeing.

Thanks

Bill

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You’ve gotten some short, blunt answers because that’s how clear of a bad idea it is. If I received those responses I would think “Oh shit, point taken” and then ask for more info if I wanted to. They’re just keeping it real with you. Taking the step you’re taking without having your training and diet dialed the fuck in already is a mistake.

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No, you don’t. I’m keeping it real with you.

Fix the obvious shit you mentioned, like having a shit diet, drinking, poor effort in training.

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Most ppl have a strict routine BEFORE they start, and the steroids are building on that foundation. If you can’t grow naturally then you’re not gonna keep much of anything post cycle. And taking Tren alone is dumb.

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As someone who has tried tren for all the wrong reasons like you let me share my experience.

Had been on trt for several years and was testing out different compounds to later add in the future when i was “ready”. 5’7 , overweight, poor training consistency, poor diet consistency, still drank (told myself i would clean that all up too right)

Tren ace, 10mg/day, could literally feel it the 2nd day. Bumped up to i think 15-20mg day second week. During second week had this weird pain near my pancreas. By end of the week it was getting worse, thought i was extremely constipated or something, did some enemas fiber etc. by third week i was considering going to the ER, thought my appendix was about to burst, realized maybe it was the tren. Discontinued the tren and by the end of the month the pain had started to go away.

Knowing that tren has a reputation for gastrointestinal problems i tried my second attempt, 10mg/day. Ran for two weeks no stomach issues, upped dose to 15mg , no stomach issues (except there were, ill get to that). By the second week is when it really kicked in for me, mentally and physically. Alpha mode ON high gear, traps chest arms with a glycogen filled “pump” 24/hr. CNS upregulated like i was on crack. My 23% BF stomach noticeably sucked in (still looked fat though). Had to buy costco sized double pack of tums to eat like candy through the day to combat the acid reflux and be able to sleep at night. Made sure i had carbs on hand for the random hypoglycemic fits through the day. Although i had this badass alpha feel i was totally apathetic to my wife, kids, family and co-workers. All i wanted to do was lift and fuck and get shit done, get the hell out of my way. I never got violent but would have violent day dreams for instance driving around town and imagining scooping out someones eyeballs with a spoon then shooting them in the head and hanging them from a light pole because i thought they were driving like an idiot. Them i would laugh about it in my head like a funny movie i just watched. Ran this for about a month.

Third run , now that i “knew” i could handle it. In total was about 8 weeks, 10mg start up, slow titrate up to 15mg and last 2ish weeks up to 20mg. I will spare much of the details but everything that was experienced the second time and then some. There was a family vacation for two weeks near the last half of this run and i am dead serious i almost caused my divorce. Was not even working out since we were on vacation, was in a shit mood because my wife didn’t want to have sex, probably because i was being an asshole, ruined the mood of the whole vacation even my relatives noticed. The funny thing is, YOU DONT NOTICE your own shit.

During these 8 weeks I became paranoid my wife was cheating, literally if she went to the bathroom i knew she was texting some guy (married over 15 years) , i would go through her phone and check on her location throughout the day, at the same time i would fantasize about her being with other men. My logical brain kept trying to talk me out of this shit but its like a compulsive cocaine addict brain.

Once the cycle is done your brain clears and you can only then look at your behavior objectively.

So if you want insomnia, Tren nightmares (I didn’t even mention that) heartburn, elevated pulse, paranoia and ruin all your relationships to loose 15lbs i say go for it, i mean your already in mental health counseling already right? What do you have to loose?

I recommend just use that bottle you got, run 1ml a day until you tap out, loose your job, loose your relationships maybe go to jail. It may just be the last cycle you’ll ever need

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That was me on tren ace. Almost got divorced both times I used it.

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Don’t listen to idiots on here you shouldn’t be taking any gear lol . They say that to anyone but they are allowed to take gear cuz they know better ? Ha so dumb . You take steroids and experience your own side effect if any and see how the drug works. These people think they are scientists when all they do is read the internet lol. And the ones saying it don’t even have steroid bodies . I would say don’t take tren right now . Try a lot of other ones before that one

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But what if I am a scientist?

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Then that’s awesome . But…. Most people on here aren’t and think they know everything . Telling someone to not do roids is just stupid . Why? Cuz they are gonna do it anyways . And also nobody should be doing roids obviously. But to do them safely is key

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