I’m an idiot. I bought a tren mix, I’ve never done a cycle other than high dose Test C hormone therapy, if you count that

This is how I genuinely see it. Especially with younger people like me.

If you want to start a new compound then start light . And work way up . Tren is not something to screw around with . Some people can tolerate it and others can’t . Deca and mast are incredible . My opinion

No one is saying not to do them: they’re saying not to do them NOW. Which is part of doing the “safely”.

Which is to say: there is no way to abuse medication safely. But risk mitigation can be involved. And part of that is to actually know how to eat and train before you try using something that enhances the benefits of eating and training.

Exactly … you should be in healthy condition before starting any ped but not saying abusing either . But guys are gonna take these drugs regardless . And if you are to take them start light and if you have any “side effects” then stop choose another compound or research more . But you can’t tell someone to not take them now. People accelerate in life because of these compounds even lightly . Tren I don’t recommend. You can do steroids safely . Low dosages and taking time off . Most of these people are kids … they must learn what their body responds to if they are gonna take this path and what compounds to take first

There is no way to run a cycle of steroids that isn’t abusing medication…

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lol you know your stuff eh? Abusing means taking too much. If you have done bloods and taking low doses you can’t hurt body too much without other health conditions . That’s what the problem is . People don’t know firsthand and also stay on too long and also where they get it from . I’m not the professional man. I just know if you are healthy and no other health conditions you should be able to run a compound for 12 weeks . You didn’t mention the main thing what people neglect is blood pressure on steroids is what hurts people. Any of you on meds ? If you don’t do cardio or even if you do your blood pressure will go way up. Hurt your kidneys . Taking any cholesterol medication? Easy to get … or eat healthy. Abuse is not it . Test 200 mast 400 can give you so much without problems. Cialis for prostate . Telmisartan for blood pressure good sleep without sleep apnea. There’s tons of stuff to look out for . But that’s on them to do research . You can do it safely to an extent .

Vigorous Steve explains a lot . And from me only going to doctors every 8 weeks proves that I can do it safely. But advice is advice . It’s up to that person to do his bloodwork before doing anything .

And who is aslan pharma ? Where is this ? Never heard of it .

I say take the tren OP. I’ll get flamed for saying this but I think it’ll be a good experience for you to see how steroids won’t get you to where you want to be physically, and eventually when you realize they are not a magic pill you’ll never take them again.
When you start feeling irritable, getting into arguments, blurting out things you would normally never say, become the center of your support groups, that’s when you’ll know the tren is working.
Good luck

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Thank you !

How does one NOT abuse Tren?

I genuinely want to know.

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Wow you just lost all credibility. I mean when you called us “scientist” instead of a plethora of better descriptive words I already knew you were lacking brain cells. I figured I’d give you the benefit of the doubt.

Stick with ruining your own health, eight weeks at a time. Don’t give any advice. Especially to other idiots like @roidfein.

Can somebody get these two guys some rubber gloves, a couple helmets, and some ear muffs?

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Credibility? lol what ? Dude if that’s you in the picture how about take actual steroids . And I bet you say the same speech to everyone on here . Hurt my health ? Do you know about me ? lol seems like your the one lacking brain cells talking about my health . Genius

I said I don’t recommend tren. But am I talking to a 17yr old ? Read my messages .

Instead of coming on here and being a complete douchebag why not try to be helpful? That’s why we are all here. As part of a community.
Telling someone you should not listen to sound advice given by multiple other people is just you puffing up your chest for no reason. You have 0 credibility on this site.
Go back to eroids or wherever you came from.

Haha awe seems like your butthurt . You want to puff out your chest instead small guy? Should I let you speak ? Not here for credibility . Don’t care about your words and thoughts either. Keep talking though it’s funny

I’m not hurt at all. Say what you will about me. Shows your insecurities.
The OP started this post because he wanted validation to use what he purchased most likely because he knows he should not be using it.
Other members tried to give him the advice he needed to hear so maybe he would think twice about using one of the most mentally problematic steroids out there when he has admitted to mental health issues.
You for some reason decided to give him that validation instead of just being a good person and telling him the truth.
We don’t need idiots like you on this site.

No thanks. I’m past that point in life.

I don’t need to. You’re human right? A dumb one but still human. So … you’re affected by pharmaceuticals the same way every other person is. But but but… ‘scientist’.

So said the village idiot. You’re in a room of pretty intelligent people other than the OP. You may or may not be big muscular guy but in this room you’re a mental midget. The funny part is because of this disability you will never realize it.

lol you sound angry . I smell **ssy. You mad cuz I tell the truth ? You clearly don’t read my messages. Or did you want to be the only one saying things here and people agreeing with you? How many sites like this are you on? I come on here to make fun of people like you. I was gonna say if that’s you in picture you need to lose fat around midsection. And you giving advice is good ? lol don’t cry bud

We are in agreement