well you said it yourself your one rep max is about 345lbs and with your coach “spotting” it’s magically at 430lbs? 265 for ten reps comes nowhere near 430. you would need to do 345 for ten to come close to a true 430 single. therefore i think it’s the title of this thread that is slightly misleading. i believe you did it and appreciate your honesty in explaining on how you did it but your coach is interested in other things.
Seems to me like trying to lift a max almost 100 pounds over your true max is dangerous. If you can only lift 345, your body probably can’t handle trying to put up 430. Not to mention that is a shit ton of weight and you better hope that spotter is damn strong to pull it off.
Well all of your comments mean shit to me because I know what I did. I said I did 345lbs. a few weeks ago which wasn’t this six weeks. If you read all the posts you will notice that the coach only helped with the negative and the break which would indeed make you bench more if you’re just doing the positive.
345lbs. wasn’t recent just an estimate of what I did a few weeks ago meaning 6+ weeks. Read and comprehend. Maybe Monday I’ll maxout without a spotter again. You guys are replying as if 345lbs. was recent. It’s not RECENT.
[quote]golferguy12 wrote:
Seems to me like trying to lift a max almost 100 pounds over your true max is dangerous. If you can only lift 345, your body probably can’t handle trying to put up 430. Not to mention that is a shit ton of weight and you better hope that spotter is damn strong to pull it off.[/quote]
Na he can just turn the bar and put the hooks in… Oh wait, he didnt mention it was in a smith machine yet.
Well if that fails he can just stab one of the plastic sand filled weights “hes not sure if they are filled up all the way” and let the sand drain out.
But it dosent really matter because he has the smith machine stops set to 6" above chest height, “he likes to get a good bounce off of them on the way down”. So he can basically just let it rest on the stops and slide out from under neath.
So he dosent need a spotter, but the weird thing is he always feels a 100lbs stronger when someones hands are underneath the bar. They dont touch the bar, the spotter just screams its all you and then he suddenly feels like the bar weighs 100lbs less. By the time he looks at the bar again his spotters hands are already on it putting helping him rack it.
He’s not completely sure if the spotter helped so when he asks the spotter if he helped the spotter says it was all you man, and thats all he needs to hear.
Did I mention he isnt actually “benching” he lies on his back and pushes the smith bar with his legs… but his hands are on his knee’s so its basicaly benching. He also uses knee wraps on his elbows and puts on a old bench shirt to keep his shoulders warm. Teh warms and shirt dont realy help… they are for saftey.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
To the guys who ask how do I go up 25-30lbs. every 6 weeks, well I’m not sure how to answer that. Nearly everyone who works out in my weight lifting class goes up 25-30lbs. I just assumed it was the norm. [/quote]
That’s awesome dude! You’ll be benching 1500 lbs by the time you are 25 years old! I can’t wait to see your coach deadlift that off your chest.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
Well all of your comments mean shit to me because I know what I did. I said I did 345lbs. a few weeks ago which wasn’t this six weeks. If you read all the posts you will notice that the coach only helped with the negative and the break which would indeed make you bench more if you’re just doing the positive.
345lbs. wasn’t recent just an estimate of what I did a few weeks ago meaning 6+ weeks. Read and comprehend. Maybe Monday I’ll maxout without a spotter again. You guys are replying as if 345lbs. was recent. It’s not RECENT.[/quote]
Yes, 265x10 and 345x1 a “few” weeks ago dosent mean recent. 6 weeks puts 25lbs on your bench but 6 weeks dosent = a few weeks.
Weird, you tell us about raw lifts of 345 a few weeks ago, you bench 430, dont you train with 345x8 every workout at least. Why not mention that?
Maybe because 345 is the best you have done without a spotter? Maybe thats why everyone calls bullshit on your lift.
[quote]toddthebod wrote:
sed26 wrote:
To the guys who ask how do I go up 25-30lbs. every 6 weeks, well I’m not sure how to answer that. Nearly everyone who works out in my weight lifting class goes up 25-30lbs. I just assumed it was the norm.
That’s awesome dude! You’ll be benching 1500 lbs by the time you are 25 years old! I can’t wait to see your coach deadlift that off your chest.
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I dont know if Andy Bolton would want to be associated with that kind of “spotting”.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
Dedicated, I had no arch in my back at all. It’s really eye opening how many people here question my work ethic. I lift every other day on the bench along with my upper/lower split routine and I doubt most people do that. I guess I would blame that for the good gains also.
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Im surprised no one else caught the “I bench every other day” comment as justification for his numbers.
How much can you squat while your coach does a goodmorning under your ass?
[quote]Uber N3wb wrote:
golferguy12 wrote:
Did I mention he isnt actually “benching” he lies on his back and pushes the smith bar with his legs… but his hands are on his knee’s so its basicaly benching. He also uses knee wraps on his elbows and puts on a old bench shirt to keep his shoulders warm. Teh warms and shirt dont realy help… they are for saftey.
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AHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[quote]Uber N3wb wrote:
golferguy12 wrote:
Seems to me like trying to lift a max almost 100 pounds over your true max is dangerous. If you can only lift 345, your body probably can’t handle trying to put up 430. Not to mention that is a shit ton of weight and you better hope that spotter is damn strong to pull it off.
Na he can just turn the bar and put the hooks in… Oh wait, he didnt mention it was in a smith machine yet.
Well if that fails he can just stab one of the plastic sand filled weights “hes not sure if they are filled up all the way” and let the sand drain out.
But it dosent really matter because he has the smith machine stops set to 6" above chest height, “he likes to get a good bounce off of them on the way down”. So he can basically just let it rest on the stops and slide out from under neath.
So he dosent need a spotter, but the weird thing is he always feels a 100lbs stronger when someones hands are underneath the bar. They dont touch the bar, the spotter just screams its all you and then he suddenly feels like the bar weighs 100lbs less. By the time he looks at the bar again his spotters hands are already on it putting helping him rack it.
He’s not completely sure if the spotter helped so when he asks the spotter if he helped the spotter says it was all you man, and thats all he needs to hear.
Did I mention he isnt actually “benching” he lies on his back and pushes the smith bar with his legs… but his hands are on his knee’s so its basicaly benching. He also uses knee wraps on his elbows and puts on a old bench shirt to keep his shoulders warm. Teh warms and shirt dont realy help… they are for saftey.[/quote]
This is so funny, yet probably close to being true.
I benched 85kg x6 reps with no spotter.
…yay
6’2.5" and 200lbs.? What’s your BF%? If you’re upping an extra 25 every 6 weeks, you’ve got to be in a serious calorie surplus. If we’re to believe you, then you are probably the most mesomorphic person to ever live. Either that or you’re missing a leg.
Are you sure you meant 430 “pounds” and not “Newtons”?
to be fair ive gained around 10 to 15 pounds a month in high school so that would put me around 15 to 21 pounds every 6 weeks
6 foot 230 though
and i bench well over 405 with just a lift off and i think i can only do 345 for 8 reps
I mean clearly this kid isnt sure what true lifting is but take a look its his coach who is teaching these kids, this it not his fault its the ignorance around him that is screwing these kid up.
but then again he shouldnt have come on this site bragging about screwed up lifts lol
What a bunch of kids. I don’t do smith machines so get that out of your heads. I bet half of you couldn’t even bench the positive part of 430lbs. You’re all GHEY. Haven’t you dumbasses ever heard of this thing called plateau. Guess not because you’re just little kids. It happens when a person hits a certain weight. In that case there would be no need for steroids if it didn’t existed.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
What a bunch of kids. I don’t do smith machines so get that out of your heads. I bet half of you couldn’t even bench the positive part of 430lbs. You’re all GHEY. Haven’t you dumbasses ever heard of this thing called plateau. Guess not because you’re just little kids. It happens when a person hits a certain weight. In that case there would be no need for steroids if it didn’t existed. [/quote]
you can plateau with steroids, did you honestly think you could come in spouting BIG claims without proof? Also when you topped it off by claiming 30 lbs EVERY 6 weeks was ridiculous, sure you might have had this progress at one point. You never mentioned what college your going to for football.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
What a bunch of kids. I don’t do smith machines so get that out of your heads. I bet half of you couldn’t even bench the positive part of 430lbs. You’re all GHEY. Haven’t you dumbasses ever heard of this thing called plateau. Guess not because you’re just little kids.[/quote]
Oh yeah? Well I’m rubber and you’re glue and whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. And at least my dad’s way tougher than your dad.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
What a bunch of kids. I don’t do smith machines so get that out of your heads. I bet half of you couldn’t even bench the positive part of 430lbs. You’re all GHEY. Haven’t you dumbasses ever heard of this thing called plateau. Guess not because you’re just little kids. It happens when a person hits a certain weight. In that case there would be no need for steroids if it didn’t existed. [/quote]
I wasn’t sure what to think about this whole thing. Now I am.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
What a bunch of kids. I don’t do smith machines so get that out of your heads. I bet half of you couldn’t even bench the positive part of 430lbs. You’re all GHEY. Haven’t you dumbasses ever heard of this thing called plateau. Guess not because you’re just little kids. It happens when a person hits a certain weight. In that case there would be no need for steroids if it didn’t existed. [/quote]
Yeah man, the 430 lb positive part of the lift with your coach’s fingers under the bar taking a good 100 lbs from your lift. Fact is that YOU havn’t even hit the 430 lb positive part of the lift. You get a video of this “lift” and well believe you but until then you’re a joke.
[quote]sed26 wrote:
^Do I smell a hater in the house? OK so it wasn’t a "legal lift so some of you say. But I did legally lift 345lbs. a few weeks ago. No help at all breaking it or getting it down. All by myself. Oh yea I’m just in high school. Going to college next fall and will be playing football.
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You got up 450 with HANDS * by your name. Only legally lifting 345 is a big drop off copared to your head numbers. @ least at my HS. The coach followed the no hands rule and you touched the bar to chest at least.
BTW what is your deadlift? POWERCLEAN? I bet you cant clean 315.
260 10 times is not gonna get you 450. WTF are you talking about warming up with 350? but you only maxed 345 regularly.
BTW you might want some of that negative if you want to put on any muscle.
ITS ALL YOU BRO!