so are Brian/Eddie/etc doing it wrong? they’re wasting so much time warming up?
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It’s all anecdotal. You won’t find any studies on it, because nobody would agree to participate in a study where the purpose is to find the threshold at which they get injured from not warming up properly.
It prevents a multitude of injuries.
As for your last question:
Your joints and muscles will not be warm or loose. That is when most injuries occur. The other type of injury is when form breaks down under a significant load which doesn’t happen during warmups
Where are you getting your information that most injuries occur when muscles are not warm or loose
so when Brandon Lilly blew out his knees squatting 750 he used improper form?
Possibly, I don’t know who that is
Personal experience and stories from others. It’s happened to me and I’ve watched it happen
Ok, you can rely on that if you want. But I’m good
Fair. Just out of curiosity, what are your most recent squat + bench + deadlift maxes?
Why does that matter to you?
Dogs stretch all the time and do what appears to be their own equivalent of mobility work whenever they’ve been sitting for too long or after waking up.
Nature shows show me big cats stretching a lot too.
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I’m curious about how much weight you’re training with that still allows you to not warm up beforehand and remain uninjured. Not intended to be a jab. The odds that I’m stronger than you are minimal, I’m just curious like I said
I stretch too in the morning because it’s delightful sometimes. Doesn’t mean it’s a big prevention of injury before I work out.
The most I’ve done deadlift is 410, but I did other heavy loaded exercises before that. So you could consider that my warmup.
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I’m curious- say you’re deadlifting first. Do you walk in and throw 350 ish on the bar and start doing your work sets?
Yeah.
410 is no joke but I’m sure you can do a lot more. For the sake of longevity, assuming you aspire to deadlift 500 or 600lbs some day, you might want to consider hitting a few warm ups. When you have 135 on the bar, hit it for 8. Then 225 for 6, 315 for 4, then get into your work sets. It could save you a lot of potential trouble down the road
You’re a living, breathing Bad Luck Brian meme lol.
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There is so much dumb happening here that it’s hard to take anything seriously any more, but two themes that I think are worth making one last attempt:
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Stop treating “stretching” and “warming up” as synonyms. Articles that suggest not stretching before lifting are not supporting your point that there’s no need to “warm up” before lifting. Some people do a little movement, some do mobility drills, some do other light exercises first, some begin with their main lift but do lots of warmup sets. If you post any article titled “Does Stretching Before Working Out Prevent Injuries?” you are ignoring this point.
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even sillier, you repeatedly have asked “Did warming up make them strong?” - a problem because you’re insinuating there is one and only one thing that “made” a strong person get strong. You have to evaluate the total package of what those people did.
Does sleeping make them strong? No, not by itself, but good sleep certainly is useful in better recovery from hard workouts.
Does eating steak make them strong? No, not by itself, but a good source of quality protein is beneficial in building the muscle needed to lift heavy things.
Does warming up make them strong? No, not unless it’s a prelude to a quality work session, but it likely enhances the quality of the session (something you’re really missing, by the way - I have a much better overall session by warming up with 135, 225, 315, 405 than I would if I just walked in and loaded 405; the extra sets also take whopping five minutes to do). It makes my head hurt to even try and explain this. If you honestly believe that there is nothing to gain by doing three sets on the way up to your working sets at 300-some pounds, it again just reinforces the point that you really aren’t strong enough yet for this to matter. Get back to us when you’ve pulled 650 and let us know if you walk into the gym and start your workouts at 585.
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Also, lest anyone get confused about the 600 deadlift number that keeps coming up as a marker of what strong is: my deadlift max is 600, so that is the official definition of strong. Perhaps we ought to call this level “ActivitiesGuy Strong” for clarity.
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You know you’re strong when you have to lift significantly lighter weight sets before your work set.
I guess I’m not strong enough for it to matter. Good thing I’m skipping significantly lighter warm ups then.
I’ll let you know about my 585 work sets since 600 is the magic number of validation according to you bro. Let me know how well you do startling at 405, then bringing the weight down. I’ve done that.