Been reading through the I,BODYBUILDER info and am very excited to see what crazy progress I can make. Only problem is that as a college student, and unemployed one at that, I seriously don’t have the money available to do the entire ANACONDA protocol. About all I can swing is healthy food and a tub or two per month of Surge/Metabolic Drive, etc. Any tips on how I can accomplish a poor man’s protocol with enough to make the I,BODYBUILDER program effective??
I understand that the ANACONDA Protocol is an absolutely necessary component of the I,BODYBUILDER program by design, I just don’t want to miss out on all the trench research you guys have been up to simply because I’m one broke SOB.
Been reading through the I,BODYBUILDER info and am very excited to see what crazy progress I can make. Only problem is that as a college student, and unemployed one at that, I seriously don’t have the money available to do the entire ANACONDA protocol. About all I can swing is healthy food and a tub or two per month of Surge/Metabolic Drive, etc. Any tips on how I can accomplish a poor man’s protocol with enough to make the I,BODYBUILDER program effective??
I understand that the ANACONDA Protocol is an absolutely necessary component of the I,BODYBUILDER program by design, I just don’t want to miss out on all the trench research you guys have been up to simply because I’m one broke SOB.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks[/quote]
The best thing you could do for yourself is to check out the questions and answers (in their entirety) on amino pulsing and peri workout nutrition.
Here’s something you could do as well:
-60 min. One Serving of Oatmeal or Brown Rice (1/2 C. Raw Oats or 1 C. cooked brown rice) with One Scoop Whey Protein (use whatever you have)
-45 min. One Large Banana and 1 C. of Raw Spinach
-10 min. Two Scoops Surge Recovery in required water, mix in 10 grams of Creatine Monohydrate
0 BEGIN WORKOUT
During your workout consume Two Scoops of Hydroylzed Whey or Casein if possible (if not just use any whey you have) AND 2-4 Scoops of L-Leucine (approximately 10-20 grams of Leucine) . . . keep FLUID LEVELS HIGH
+15-30 min. One or Two Scoops of Whey
+60-75 min. Eat a regular meal consisting of lean meat, veggies, beans (if you aren’t too worried about carbs) and fish oil
Keep feeding your body every two and-a-half hours with 20-40 grams of protein coming from lean meats, 2% or 4% Cottage Cheese, eggs, nuts, and eat vegetables for carbs
JUST REALIZE THAT YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE THE FULL BENEFITS IF YOU ALTER THE METHODS PRESENTED IN ANY WAY
thanks much for the suggestions Eric! That I can definitely pull off. Just have to make sure I bust my ass in the weightroom so I get the best stimulus I can!!
It’s like asking ‘‘I don’t have the money to buy a plane ticket to Australia but would like to have a way to get there just as fast as if I could take a plane’’. I’d like to give you a solution, but there is none that will be as effective.
As Eric pointed out, there are some ways to still get some decent results. But not to the same extent as with the full protocol.
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-60 min. One Serving of Oatmeal or Brown Rice (1/2 C. Raw Oats or 1 C. cooked brown rice) with One Scoop Whey Protein (use whatever you have)
-45 min. One Large Banana and 1 C. of Raw Spinach
-10 min. Two Scoops Surge Recovery in required water, mix in 10 grams of Creatine Monohydrate
0 BEGIN WORKOUT
During your workout consume Two Scoops of Hydroylzed Whey or Casein if possible (if not just use any whey you have) AND 2-4 Scoops of L-Leucine (approximately 10-20 grams of Leucine) . . . keep FLUID LEVELS HIGH
+15-30 min. One or Two Scoops of Whey
+60-75 min. Eat a regular meal consisting of lean meat, veggies, beans (if you aren’t too worried about carbs) and fish oil
Keep feeding your body every two and-a-half hours with 20-40 grams of protein coming from lean meats, 2% or 4% Cottage Cheese, eggs, nuts, and eat vegetables for carbs
JUST REALIZE THAT YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE THE FULL BENEFITS IF YOU ALTER THE METHODS PRESENTED IN ANY WAY[/quote]
Why the Spinach at -45? Your intent is to slow absorption of banana?
I have a similar concern except I’m not on a student’ check. I do have access to whey and casein proteins, waxy maize, BCAAs, creatine and beta-alanine and other over-priced, medium quality supps, but getting anything shipped to Malaysia, especially something as large as the Anaconda protocol, which would cost an extra 130 dollars, plus customs charges, make it cost prohibitive. Thoughts?
[quote]Mutsanah wrote:
Why the Spinach at -45? Your intent is to slow absorption of banana?
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Not only that, but eating green leafy vegetables help focus and concentration during intense physical activity–in this case, strength training. So the intent is to achieve a similar affect of beta-alanine (part of the Anaerobic fuel in ANACONDA), which helps you train harder/longer.
[quote]Mutsanah wrote:
Why the Spinach at -45? Your intent is to slow absorption of banana?
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Not only that, but eating green leafy vegetables help focus and concentration during intense physical activity–in this case, strength training. So the intent is to achieve a similar affect of beta-alanine (part of the Anaerobic fuel in ANACONDA), which helps you train harder/longer.[/quote]
How? I am aware of nutrients in these vegetables that could have this effect (if magnesium deficient etc) but would they be absorbed fast enough and the nutrients that I am aware of would have just as great (possibly greater given the questionable digestion time) an effect used outside of your protocol.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
It’s like asking ‘‘I don’t have the money to buy a plane ticket to Australia but would like to have a way to get there just as fast as if I could take a plane’’. I’d like to give you a solution, but there is none that will be as effective.
As Eric pointed out, there are some ways to still get some decent results. But not to the same extent as with the full protocol.[/quote]
No no, I’m fully aware that the only way to get the maximum results is to take the full protocol. I’m just trying to figure out a way to implement the IBB program and still get some decent results on the cash I’ve got. I’m not expecting to gain 20 pounds in a couple months on milk, eggs, and chicken. Just looking to get the most I can with what I can afford.
do u seriously think that this program only makes sense using any special type of protocol ? come on …
the program is based on powerlifting principles PLUS the results of year-long experience of CT training his clients.
the programs and the principles, are effective on their own, nobody will argue with that, u can of course enhance the results by taking in supplements, but thats it… it would be plain stupid to think that some program only works with a certain supp protocol…
stick to at least one to two post-workout shakes, and thats about it, thats the least you can do, and definitely afford on any budget.
PS: if you have genetics of woody allen, nothing will help, haha
the programs and the principles, are effective on their own, nobody will argue with that, u can of course enhance the results by taking in supplements, but thats it… it would be plain stupid to think that some program only works with a certain supp protocol…
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You’re on the right track. However, are you referring to Surge Recovery or Surge Workout Fuel when you say “1 serving Surge?” I assumed you were referring to Surge Recovery since Surge Workout Fuel is currently out of stock. Depending on which one, I would suggest the following:
If you are using Surge Recovery, bump up that -20 serving to more like -5 or -10.
If you are using Surge Workout Fuel, the -20 serving should be ok for a 60-70 minute training session. If your training session is more like 40-50 minutes, you would push back that Surge Workout Fuel serving at -20 to more like -45 or just consume with 5g L-Leucine and Beta-7.
Otherwise, you have the idea and should get some decent results if you are lifting hard and eating properly. Remember that the key to the ANACONDA Protocol is training on loaded insulin surges. Also remember to keep fluid levels high with lots of H20 (before, during, and after you are training and using Surge to keep insulin elevated).
That’s as much as the apartment I used to rent!