I take 200 mg of test a week and want to start doing a small amount of deca for my joints. I am 46 years old and have done a lot of gear over the years. I’ve heard that Deca on finasteride does an adverse affect and makes hair lose worse. I’m sure that it’s a true statement so I’m wondering if 50 mgs of Deca isn’t a big enough of dose to mess with the hairline? Or if ANY doses of Deca will cause issues on Finasteride?
Finasteride may cause permanent debilitating, mental and physical symptoms for life even after stopping it.
Be careful!
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A full head of hair is worth any and every symptom. Especially at 46 years of age.
I don’t need to fix my balding head to attract women and risk potential devastating side effects for life. I have multiple young women (22-year-old) in the gym, hitting on me at 52.
They don’t give a rats ass about my hair, because the other qualities outshine hair loss. If you need a full head of hair to get the girl interested in you, you’re lacking in another areas.
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Regarding hair loss, I think you would have less loss with the finasteride with what you are running (200 mg Test and 50 mg Nandralone). If you were running 50 mg Test and 200 mg Nandralone, you’d probably be better off without the finasteride. DHT is stronger in regards to causing hair loss than Test, Nandralone, and DHN.
There are cases where perception doesn’t equal reality. Many men overestimate female sexual interest in them.
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I was being sarcastic in my previous comment, which is somewhat difficult to effectively communicate via an internet forum.
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Damn. My short bald ass estimates about zero interest… how does one go from zero to less? 
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I only know how to go the other way. Alcohol haha.
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A couple of questions -
How does being on fin cause excessive hair loss when taking NPP? From what I am reading it sounds like you’re better off not taking any fin at all - explain the science to me
Lastly - What if he’s using topical fin. If it’s not systemic does that matter?
This is pretty new info to me.
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Nandralone is tougher on hair than DHN. DHN is a metabolite of nandralone that is created by the 5 AR enzyme. Finasteride inhibits the 5 AR enzyme. So if you take nandralone and finasteride you will have more nandralone at the hair follicle and less DHN (which is worse for your hair compared to less nandralone and more DHN).
But, I am pretty sure DHT is far worse on the hair than nandralone or DHN (or Testosterone), so unless one is taking a stack that is very nandralone heavy compared to Test (or nandralone only), it probably is less hair loss with finasteride.
It wouldn’t matter much. The DHT or DHN in the blood stream doesn’t impact hair all that much. Most of the DHT a hair follicle is exposed to is created in the skin.
Finasteride / dutasteride will really only help your hair with Test (and maybe halo). Topical androgen blockers are fairly popular in the steroid user group though. Those will give some protection against every AAS.
Interesting.
So just to be clear when you say DHN you’re referencing 5α-Dihydronandrolone?
DHN is a new term for me.
Ironically over the years my hair grew slightly thinner overall. Not necessarily like a traditional balding pattern.
However when I had a random autoimmune flare up 5 years ago my hormone levels tanked mysteriously and I had to go on trt. Test and high dose HCG caused a bad shed. Test solo didn’t cause any. And adding 200 mg of primo really made it thicken up. A dht causing hair growth - How’s that for irony.
And since then I have been taking low dose naltrexone to fight systemic inflammation and the hair has gotten even thicker. Which leads me to believe that my hair issues of the past were not DHt specific but possibly a systemic inflammation response.
With the new thickening over the last 3 years I have added topical fin just to keep the good growth going. So I have been confused why a lot of guys say the fin will actually hurt your hairline if you take NPP. I was planning on taking 175 test e a week and 75 nand with that to see if it helps with joints and recovery from workouts.
So this is where my questions arise from… I do appreciate the info.
Yep.
No problem.