I am Absolutly Disgusted in Myself!

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[quote]Leif wrote:
John S. wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
thosebananas wrote:
ive been looking at some of the martial arts today.

we have a school near my flat. i dont know, i might just go back to boxing and brush up to increase my confidence… i dunno.

Boxing? No good, becuase it limits you to using your hands only. Why stop there, when a straight kick to the solar plexus or liver, can cripple the opponent from much further away than a punch. The best bit is you can hold your hand up in mock surrender and whilst he’s looking at them, you deliver the kick.

Also, elbows and head are useful weapons in a confined space like a hallway, yet boxing won’t teach you to use them.

BBB

What do you think about wrestling, or some style that can bring it to the ground. If he’s worried about another incident like this then taking it to the ground would pretty much make most of there weapons useless wouldn’t you agree?

Madness, utter madness! When facing a large number of opponents, the ground is the last place you would want to be. I would also feel that going into ground game with someone carrying a weapon might be risky. For example I might find his knife somewhere in my gut.

Rule number one for survival is staying on your feet here, and trying to keep the enemies at a distance. So you strike quickly from your max range. all the while guarding your head as best you can, because youll likely be hit from the side while you strike. But that’s to be expected, such a fight cannot be carried out without getting a few bruises. If you are lucky, the opponents will succumb to fear of your size and punching power and will want to stay back and let someone else be the first hit. If that chain reaction starts, then you may well make it. That’s when they’re easy to hit. Two friends of mine and myself actually chased of a dozen melee-armed attackers once we got their fear of getting hurt going.

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While going to the ground in a 2vs1 fight would be the wrong thing to do, he did have 3 friends with him so it was a even fight. If you take the guy down who has the pole wrestle it away from him then you are in the clear. If you are worried about self defence its best to learn some stand up and ground game. There are many ways to defend ones self it really comes down to what you feel you can do best.

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[quote]John S. wrote:

While going to the ground in a 2vs1 fight would be the wrong thing to do, he did have 3 friends with him so it was a even fight. If you take the guy down who has the pole wrestle it away from him then you are in the clear. If you are worried about self defence its best to learn some stand up and ground game. There are many ways to defend ones self it really comes down to what you feel you can do best.[/quote]

I feel my best assets are my size (130kg 6ft) and strength.

so something based around that. KFM and kava maga have been suggested.

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[quote]thosebananas wrote:
John S. wrote:

While going to the ground in a 2vs1 fight would be the wrong thing to do, he did have 3 friends with him so it was a even fight. If you take the guy down who has the pole wrestle it away from him then you are in the clear. If you are worried about self defence its best to learn some stand up and ground game. There are many ways to defend ones self it really comes down to what you feel you can do best.

I feel my best assets are my size (130kg 6ft) and strength.

so something based around that. KFM and kava maga have been suggested.

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With that size anything you do can cause damage. remember wrestling is more then just taking them to the ground. In a hallway you could put them up against the wall and control them, You could slam them on the ground(that will end most fights). Wrestling is what I’m familure with so thats what I would recomend, but with your physical power anything you pick would cause massive damage to someone.

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causing damage is not my first goal… rendering them useless or getting away are my primary objectives. id rather a well placed punch etc than smashing something on them.

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[quote]thosebananas wrote:
causing damage is not my first goal… rendering them useless or getting away are my primary objectives. id rather a well placed punch etc than smashing something on them.

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Then I would have to say boxing, if your goal isn’t to stay in the fight but rather hit and run so to speak boxing will teach you to land a punch effectivly.

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Actually, I withdraw how strong my stance was slightly. Having something of a ground game is useful, because the other guy may, entirely by accident, or luck, get you on the ground, and you are going to need an idea of how to rapidly escape or make him not want to hold you down anymore if you get me.

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[quote]thosebananas wrote:
Tumbles wrote:
Only should be upset about not helping after the phone call.

after the phonecall, everybody was panicing. girls crying, guys crying… everybody was fucked up… i got towels, and ice. and picked the guy up of the floor and performed some response tests… but that was it.

i had been sitting in my room enjoying a nice movie and opened the door and four guys are standing there brandishing weapons… im still shocked and scared that it happened. so fucked up.[/quote]

What were you going to do? Magically destroy 4 huge guys with iron poles?
Your decision was a hard one and i think you did well.
It would have been best to dial 911, explain and then go out and help your friend (did you later on?) but what could you have really done?

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[quote]blazindave wrote:
thosebananas wrote:

What were you going to do? Magically destroy 4 huge guys with iron poles?
Your decision was a hard one and i think you did well.
It would have been best to dial 911, explain and then go out and help your friend (did you later on?) but what could you have really done?[/quote]

i did some basic first aid. carried a guy down the stairs to the ambulance and tried to keep the panicking down.

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You did the right thing.

I’m just surprised that the police actually caught them. In the Republic the guards couldn’t catch a flu.

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[quote]wushu_1984 wrote:
You did the right thing.

I’m just surprised that the police actually caught them. In the Republic the guards couldn’t catch a flu.[/quote]

i live around the coner from the main party street in glasgow. so they followed them on cctv.

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Krav Maga focuses on the quick neutralization of your opponent. It is used by the Israeli army and special forces, so it is also designed to be learned quickly.

Most importantly, it teaches you how to use improvised weapons and how to use your surroundings to your advantage. Very useful if you are fighting on familiar ground.

Muay Thai is also an option.

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aww fuck it, everyone on the net is so brave.

NEVER participate in street fights if anyone has ANY sort of weapon, OR if you know you are going to get your ass kicked

is that the pussy way? probably, but your number 1 priority is yourself, and then your family

it is moronic to put yourself in danger only so you can be a tough guy. You dont want to be that “tough guy” on the news that died and left his family to grieve to protect his goon friends, if you dont put yourself in bad situations, bad situations will not happen to you

take care of yourself first, and dont give a fuck about what predicament others put themselves into or what internet Gs think

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A friend of mine who is 5’11 ~130lbs got beat up at a bar once and I didn’t help him. I was expecting a bunch of bouncers to immediately break it up, but they never came. I just stood there kind of shocked. Worse, there was about 10 girls we knew standing right behind us, and it was obvious that I was the one that should have helped him.

I feel really bad about now helping him, but I feel less shame because it wasn’t because I was scared, but rather just inexperienced. When things like that happen out of nowhere, it sometimes takes a little while for an inexperienced brain to decide what to do - and fights are over very fast. If it ever happens again, I hope I will think much clearer. I’m sure the OP will act differently if it happens again as well.

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[quote]believedat wrote:
aww fuck it, everyone on the net is so brave.

NEVER participate in street fights if anyone has ANY sort of weapon, OR if you know you are going to get your ass kicked

is that the pussy way? probably, but your number 1 priority is yourself, and then your family

it is moronic to put yourself in danger only so you can be a tough guy. You dont want to be that “tough guy” on the news that died and left his family to grieve to protect his goon friends, if you dont put yourself in bad situations, bad situations will not happen to you

take care of yourself first, and dont give a fuck about what predicament others put themselves into or what internet Gs think[/quote]

I’d tend to agree. You shouldn’t fight just because you want to come across as a tough guy. You shouldn’t either make a habit of jumping into fights that you cannot possibly win. But if family or close friends are in danger and you feel that you may be able to make a difference, I do not personally find it conscionable to just back down.

On the other hand, if there was a distinctly low probability of making a difference, I would encourage anyone to save themselves. And I do prioritise my own life over those of most people.

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Ahem. Why is everybody jumping on the e-thug bandwagon? The OP feels bad about not helping his friends out and he wants to be prepared in case it happens again.

He has made it clear that he does not want to cause unecessary harm to another human being.

I’d be feeling a tad edgey as well if four paranoid fuckwits broke into my home and started attacking people at random.

I don’t condone getting into fights for the fun of it, but it is obvious that the OP had no choice in the matter - there was nowhere to run.

His friends got hurt through no fault of their own. The OP doesn’t want to see them get hurt again, so he wants to learn self-defence.

It’s not about showing off or being macho. He has demonstrated great loyalty to his friends by starting this thread. I’d be proud to have a friend like him.

If you don’t feel that your friends are worth protecting, then they are not really your friends.

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main thing is something happens in a building,your home or any real place would be to do what you can to put a barrier between you and the attacker.
meaning using your size to push them out,or dragging friends into a room and locking a door, anything of that sort.
confrontations are not wise at all you want to neutralize the attack not prolong it.

Krav would be good,you an learn how to take an attacker down fast and give yourself enough time to get the hell out of there

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Uhm, let’s say you step in, get KO’d too leaving NO ONE to call the police or an ambulance? If someone ended up dying or seriously hurt because of the time taken to get treatment I think you’d be calling yourself more than a pussy.

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Pfftt Krav Maga is for old age pensioners who can barely move… i would presume your not one of them ?

Honestly, best bet is Thai Kickboxing or else ask the travellers to teach you… saving that get big and huge in the gym and see how they DONT attack you.[/quote]

So, after just avoiding a very dangerous situation, the OP strolls into a halting site and asks the tinkers to TEACH HIM HOW TO FIGHT?

…only if he uploads a video afterwards…

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Most travellers can’t fight. They only think they can after watching Rocky and taking three boxing lessons.