As far as insulin/leptin levels are concerned, should one be worried about the difference in insulin spikes between supplementing with hydrolyzed whey(quick digesting) vs slower absorbing proteins such as casein (slow digestion)?
It makes sense to supplement with hydrolyzed proteins + Carbs in/after workouts for quick glycogen replenishment, but for a meal replacement/protein supplement should I include a slower digesting protein combination? Would it be bad to drink hydrolyzed protein before bed due its insulinogenic properties? Is this the idea behind the MAG-10 and Casein hydrolysate ingredient? It is quick digesting yet casein so low glycemic?
[quote]h0nkey46 wrote:
As far as insulin/leptin levels are concerned, should one be worried about the difference in insulin spikes between supplementing with hydrolyzed whey(quick digesting) vs slower absorbing proteins such as casein (slow digestion)?
It makes sense to supplement with hydrolyzed proteins + Carbs in/after workouts for quick glycogen replenishment, but for a meal replacement/protein supplement should I include a slower digesting protein combination? Would it be bad to drink hydrolyzed protein before bed due its insulinogenic properties? Is this the idea behind the MAG-10 and Casein hydrolysate ingredient? It is quick digesting yet casein so low glycemic?
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Casein Hydrolysate is probably the most insulin inducing protein thus far! Their usage all depends on your goals. But Id advise against over supplementing with protein powders. Especially if fat-loss is your primary goal.
Use MAG-10 during/after your workouts, but try to eat whole food meals for your protein the rest of the time.
IDK how insulinogenic CH really is… There’s an Lonnie Lowery article about how taking Mag-10 (CH) during fasted cardio didn’t have any negative effect on fat burning… Not exactly what I was looking for but there is a graph depicting insulin output from Mag10.
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
IDK how insulinogenic CH really is… There’s an Lonnie Lowery article about how taking MAG-10 (CH) during fasted cardio didn’t have any negative effect on fat burning… Not exactly what I was looking for but there is a graph depicting insulin output from Mag10.
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No offense to Lowery but that graph is useless and is comparing apples to oranges. Of course 80cals is going to cause a smaller insulin response than 500+cals. Thats not rocket science. It also looks like the research he’s used for that graph is based on complete casein protein not hydrolysed casein.
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
IDK how insulinogenic CH really is… There’s an Lonnie Lowery article about how taking MAG-10 (CH) during fasted cardio didn’t have any negative effect on fat burning… Not exactly what I was looking for but there is a graph depicting insulin output from Mag10.
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No offense to Lowery but that graph is useless and is comparing apples to oranges. Of course 80cals is going to cause a smaller insulin response than 500+cals. Thats not rocket science. It also looks like the research he’s used for that graph is based on complete casein protein not hydrolysed casein. [/quote]
Only skimmed it but you’re right… There was another article where the subject was specifically how he hooked himself up to some machine and it measured his fat burning during fasted cardio with and without MAG-10 and there was no difference. Just can’t find it…