for a different approach to o2 in blood plasma try 4 to 6 drops of food grade h2o2 at 3% concentration in 16oz of distilled water and wait for the rush… be careful to not overdue
as it also causes some thermogenics due to the increase in o2.
pros are delayed lactic acid
onset for prolonged sets,harder muscle contractions quicker recovery times.google h2o2 therapy
and see for yourself…be safe with stuff
[quote]Taken intravenously, it can damage blood vessels at the site of injection, produce bubbles in the bloodstream, and lead to life-threatening allergic reactions.
It’s obvious that some people will try to sell anything to make a buck, but it’s hard to believe that purchasers can be so gullible. It seems now that nothing short of an FDA warning will dissuade some consumers from ingesting lethal doses of hydrogen peroxide.
For some time now I’ve been aware of Internet ads for pills containing oxygen and for bottles of high-strength hydrogen peroxide. I hadn’t paid much attention because I thought it unlikely that anyone would be dumb enough to buy them. Apparently, though, enough people have bought high-strength hydrogen peroxide to prompt the FDA warning not to purchase or use these products.
For many years low concentrations of hydrogen peroxide (3 percent) have been applied safely to the skin as an antiseptic and antibacterial agent.
Now advertisers promote ingestion of 35 percent “food grade” hydrogen peroxide products such as Oxywater and Oxylife as a therapeutic agent to fight cancer, AIDS, and other conditions, as well as to maintain optimal health. Some ads state, correctly, that “35 percent concentrated hydrogen peroxide is densely packed with oxygen molecules.”
Unfortunately, those oxygen molecules do not get into the red blood cells that carry oxygen to body tissues. Rather, hydrogen peroxide leads to the formation of dangerous free radicals - which many of the same comsumers, ironically, are probably trying to control by taking antioxidants like vitamin E.
One argument to justify taking supplementary oxygen comes from an article in The Idaho Observer. “Due to the burning of fossil fuels and the reduction of our rain forests, the oxygen levels in our atmosphere have been depleted to the point that it is absolutely necessary to supplement our diets with oxygen products if we are to achieve vibrant health.”
In fact, there is still plenty of oxygen in the air and breathing it into our lungs is the only way to supply our bodies with oxygen.
One “expert” often cited in ads for hydrogen peroxide therapy is the same person who first gained fame for his treatment of the nonexistent disorder systemic candidiasis.
Yes, people can have a dangerous systemic infection with candida (yeast), but he championed aggressive treatment of intestinal yeast infections because he claims they cause a multitude of systemic symptoms. Now based in Mexico, he also claims to have treated thousands of cancer patients with intravenous hydrogen peroxide.
Another promoter is William C. Douglass, author of Hydrogen Peroxide: Medical Miracle. One advertisement says that “interest in the oral and infusion use of hydrogen peroxide heralds one of the greatest advances in the treatment of the ailments of mankind in recent history.”
According to one site, “the normal dosage (of 35 percent hydrogen peroxide) is 1 tablespoon on arising and 1 tablespoon at bedtime on an empty stomach. The dosage can be doubled or even tripled with complete safety.”
The FDA warning states that high-strength hydrogen peroxide products can cause serious harm or death when ingested. Ingestion can cause ulceration or irritation of the gastrointestinal tract. Taken intravenously, it can damage blood vessels at the site of injection, produce bubbles in the bloodstream, and lead to life-threatening allergic reactions.
The American Cancer Society has stated that hydrogen peroxide does not help to cure cancer. Promoters of ingesting hydrogen peroxide use the usual dodge to explain such opposition by medical associations as well as by drug companies to the use of these products: that they are unpatentable, inexpensive, and can take the place of many other medications.
I don’t know how they will explain away the FDA warnings, but I’m sure they will continue to advertise these products, and I’m fearful that many people will continue to use them.
© 2007 Johns Hopkins University.[/quote]
there is no documented case of death thru h2o2 ingestion in safe doses
your body produces high levels of h2o2 after every consumption
of fruit.
the highest known levels of h2o2 in the body occur right after
the birth of a baby in the mothers letdown milk…for every natural product
there is propaganda to refute so we can take less beneficial synthetic.
Sources for Snopes Article
[quote]KENNYC1 wrote:
for a different approach to o2 in blood plasma try 4 to 6 drops of food grade h2o2 at 3% concentration in 16oz of distilled water and wait for the rush… be careful to not overdue
as it also causes some thermogenics due to the increase in o2.
pros are delayed lactic acid
onset for prolonged sets,harder muscle contractions quicker recovery times.google h2o2 therapy
and see for yourself…be safe with stuff[/quote]
[quote]KENNYC1 wrote:
there is no documented case of death thru h2o2 ingestion in safe doses
your body produces high levels of h2o2 after every consumption
of fruit. [/quote]
Since you brought it up, would you care to document(site) any of the claims you made in your first post?
[quote]
the highest known levels of h2o2 in the body occur right after
the birth of a baby in the mothers letdown milk…[/quote]
So when your lungs first start to work as a new born and you are still hooked to your mother through the umbilical cord the oxygen content in the blood is the highest it will ever be?
[quote]
for every natural product
there is propaganda to refute so we can take less beneficial synthetic. [/quote]
A lot of “Natural” things can kill you so this is the argument of a halfwit.
This can get interesting.
?The findings suggest that these fluids [blood, plasma]
become ?supersaturated? with oxygen following the breakdown of exogenous hydrogen peroxide. The quantity of oxygen in solution was found to be equivalent to three to twelve
atmospheres of oxygen depending on the time of sampling
following the addition of hydrogen peroxide.?
(B.E. Jay, W. Finney, G.A. Baila, and J.T. Mallams, ?The
Supersaturation of Biologic Fluids with Oxygen by the
Decomposition of Hydrogen Peroxide?, Texas Report Biol
& Med, 1964, Volume 22, pages 106-109)
?We can prove with blood samples that we can hyperoxygenate your bloodstream better with hydrogen peroxide than
by breathing oxygen. Better than by infusing ozone, which
we used to do, either rectally or into the bloodstream directly. Better than by putting the patient into a hyperbaric oxygen chamber. We can increase the oxygenation level in the
body tremendously.
You can see the difference, in the color
of the blood, of a patient who has had hydrogen peroxide
infused into them. Oftentimes, if you?ve ever seen a person
who is not well cut themselves, the blood has a dark bluish,
purplish color that is obviously not healthy.
When you start
infusing hydrogen peroxide, the blood we draw when we
take samples is a bright, healthy color that looks good.?
(Dr. Kurt Donsbach, D.C., N.D., Ph.D.)
In 1984, J.M. Wrigglesworth found that low concentrations
of hydrogen peroxide formed a stable intermediate complex
with cytochrome C oxidase which persisted for up to thirty
minutes. This complex was not formed when higher concentrations were used.
Cytochrome C oxidase holds on to
hydrogen peroxide long enough to enable it to find its way
to nearly every corner of the body where hydrogen peroxide
can then begin to work its wonders.
(J.M. Wrigglesworth, ?Formation and Reduction of a
?Peroxy? Intermediate of Cytochrome C. Oxidase by
Hydrogen Peroxide?, Biochem J.,1984, 217, pages 715-719)
SHALL I GO ON
Abstract
H(2)O(2) levels in mother’s milk were measured at different times of postpartum periods after birth as well as after different times of storage at freezing temperature. The luminol H(2)O(2) dependent chemiluminescence at pH= 9.8 technique was used. Maximum levels of H(2)O(2) were found in the first week of the postpartum period (24.992 +/- 0.168 microM).
The levels of H(2)O(2) decreased significantly (P<0.05) in the second week (20.4 +/- 0.169 microM), while a significant (P<0.01) decrease in the level of H(2)O(2) occurred in the third week after birth (15.783 +/-0.782) microM. The levels of H(2)O(2) fell sharply in the fourth week of lactation (8.75+/- 0.27 microM) with a significant difference relative to the first week (P<0.001).
The stability of the H(2)O(2) levels remained constant, at least for a period of one month, with storage at freezing point for all groups (P>0.05).
PMID: 16326651 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
THE BOTTOM LINE WITH H2O2 USE IS TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND
USE COMMON SENSE HAVING DONE DOSES AS HIGH AS 40 DROPS PER 16 OZ
I CAN TELL YOU IT WORKS I’M 55 THIS SEPTEMBER CAN SQUAT TO PARALLEL
WITH 500 DO 400#+ BENCHES ROUTINELY AND DEADLIFT NEAR 600# DUMBELL CURLS 80#S
TRICEPS KICKBACK 80#S SHRUGS 400#S TEAR 3000 PAGE MSC CATALOGS.NEVER HAVE TAKEN
STEROIDS OR 90 PERCENT OF THE PROHORMONE CRAP THAT IS OUT THERE WITH ALL OF THE HIGH ESTROGEN CONVERSION
JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION
[quote]KENNYC1 wrote:
?The findings suggest that these fluids [blood, plasma]
become ?supersaturated? with oxygen following the breakdown of exogenous hydrogen peroxide. The quantity of oxygen in solution was found to be equivalent to three to twelve
atmospheres of oxygen depending on the time of sampling
following the addition of hydrogen peroxide.?
(B.E. Jay, W. Finney, G.A. Baila, and J.T. Mallams, ?The
Supersaturation of Biologic Fluids with Oxygen by the
Decomposition of Hydrogen Peroxide?, Texas Report Biol
& Med, 1964, Volume 22, pages 106-109)[/quote]
This proves that the breakdown of H2O2 while in the blood may leads to a 3-12 atmosphere increase in oxygen. Not whether that is beneficial or long term results.
[quote]KENNYC1 wrote:
?We can prove with blood samples that we can hyperoxygenate your bloodstream better with hydrogen peroxide than
by breathing oxygen. Better than by infusing ozone, which
we used to do, either rectally or into the bloodstream directly. Better than by putting the patient into a hyperbaric oxygen chamber. We can increase the oxygenation level in the
body tremendously.
You can see the difference, in the color
of the blood, of a patient who has had hydrogen peroxide
infused into them. Oftentimes, if you?ve ever seen a person
who is not well cut themselves, the blood has a dark bluish,
purplish color that is obviously not healthy.
When you start
infusing hydrogen peroxide, the blood we draw when we
take samples is a bright, healthy color that looks good.?
(Dr. Kurt Donsbach, D.C., N.D., Ph.D.)[/quote]
This is a quote by a doctor and in no way a useful scientific study.
[quote]KENNYC1 wrote:
In 1984, J.M. Wrigglesworth found that low concentrations
of hydrogen peroxide formed a stable intermediate complex
with cytochrome C oxidase which persisted for up to thirty
minutes. This complex was not formed when higher concentrations were used.
Cytochrome C oxidase holds on to
hydrogen peroxide long enough to enable it to find its way
to nearly every corner of the body where hydrogen peroxide
can then begin to work its wonders.
(J.M. Wrigglesworth, ?Formation and Reduction of a
?Peroxy? Intermediate of Cytochrome C. Oxidase by
Hydrogen Peroxide?, Biochem J.,1984, 217, pages 715-719)[/quote]
This proves that taking H2O2 intravenously for periods of more than 30 minutes can break down the large transmembrane protein complex found in bacteria and the mitochondria.
So it breaks down good and bad cells.
[quote]KENNYC1 wrote:
Abstract
H(2)O(2) levels in mother’s milk were measured at different times of postpartum periods after birth as well as after different times of storage at freezing temperature. The luminol H(2)O(2) dependent chemiluminescence at pH= 9.8 technique was used. Maximum levels of H(2)O(2) were found in the first week of the postpartum period (24.992 +/- 0.168 microM).
The levels of H(2)O(2) decreased significantly (P<0.05) in the second week (20.4 +/- 0.169 microM), while a significant (P<0.01) decrease in the level of H(2)O(2) occurred in the third week after birth (15.783 +/-0.782) microM. The levels of H(2)O(2) fell sharply in the fourth week of lactation (8.75+/- 0.27 microM) with a significant difference relative to the first week (P<0.001).
Off all the things you “sited” you have yet to prove H2O2 supplementation is beneficial, necessary or that it has no serious long term side effects.
Taking a supplement that can kill you (if overdosed) based off of this research would be lunacy.
Didn’t I ask you to site the claims you made in your first post?
[quote]KENNYC1 wrote:
THE BOTTOM LINE WITH H2O2 USE IS TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND
USE COMMON SENSE HAVING DONE DOSES AS HIGH AS 40 DROPS PER 16 OZ
I CAN TELL YOU IT WORKS I’M 55 THIS SEPTEMBER CAN SQUAT TO PARALLEL
WITH 500 DO 400#+ BENCHES ROUTINELY AND DEADLIFT NEAR 600# DUMBELL CURLS 80#S
TRICEPS KICKBACK 80#S SHRUGS 400#S TEAR 3000 PAGE MSC CATALOGS.NEVER HAVE TAKEN
STEROIDS OR 90 PERCENT OF THE PROHORMONE CRAP THAT IS OUT THERE WITH ALL OF THE HIGH ESTROGEN CONVERSION
JUST THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION [/quote]
So based on anecdotal evidence from some guy on an internet forum this stuff works!
sorry about the caps lock.everyone already knows that taking too
much of anything can kill you.you can drink too much water and yes
you can take in too much o2 but that does not refute the benefits of either
Because of its high sugar, low protein composition, honey acts as a natural “antimicrobial” that limits the growth of bacteria by cutting off the supply of water and nitrogen. When honey is applied to a wound, it is diluted with fluids from the damaged tissue and combines with an enzyme added by the bee to form hydrogen peroxide, the same disinfectant found in pharmacies. The naturally occurring hydrogen peroxide promotes healing and reduces scarring as it is slowly released into the wound.
most living foods produce h202 when coming into contact with organic matter i.e. the stomach
when i say living foods i mean foods that are natural or in there natural state
fruits and vegetables are the best examples
