[quote]MrMuzik wrote:
Whole milk. The only naturally occurring food with respectable amounts of carbs, fat, protein and other micronutrients. But if you’re lactose intolerant, then out of luck.[/quote]
I lived off of this for several months. I did fine. But lifting-wise, I’ve done better switching away from whole milk to half-and-half. More calories per unit of volume, and blends well with protein powder and other stuff. The fats are higher, carbs are lower, and it’s generally been better for me.
But if you can tolerate dairy, by all means use it.[/quote]
Are you talking about the majority of your calories from half and half? OP was asking about quick foods that don’t need to be cooked or heated. Why would you want lower carb and protein but higher fat? Fat is important for hormones, but by itself is not a major anabolic nutrient. Even whole milk is about 50% calories from fat. Dropping some of the fat for more carbs and protein would be beneficial, IMO. [/quote]
See the shake recipe I posted earlier with h&h, eggs and protein powder. Several of my calories come from 4+ of those a day. I’m using the fat for energy mainly. I’ve been eating a mostly high-fat diet. I also drink h&h mixed with Ginger ale throughout the day.
But I also eat eggs, beef and misc meat-heavy sandwiches. When I was living off whole milk, I was drinking that exclusively.
[quote]MrMuzik wrote:
Whole milk. The only naturally occurring food with respectable amounts of carbs, fat, protein and other micronutrients. But if you’re lactose intolerant, then out of luck.[/quote]
and lactose which many people have issues with, and the ipastuerized milk sucks .
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
and lactose which many people have issues with, and the ipastuerized milk sucks .
I’d pit a whole egg vs whole milk anyday and win :D[/quote]
They are both great foods. But again, addressing the OP’s concern, he wanted a quick and easy food with all three macros. Eggs cook quickly, but it sounds like he wants something that is instantly ready. Plus, eggs do not have any appreciable amount of carbs.
The pasteurized milk debate is silly to me. We cook most other foods, why should milk be any different? Yes, it does alter the structure of some of the protein, but that should not even be an issue for most people with proper digestion.
Plus, a gallon of whole milk provides 2400 calories for $3 to $6, depending on where you buy and whether you buy organic or not. The only time that I have seen eggs cheaper than milk on a cost per calorie basis is the 60 egg flat at Costco which goes for $5. Otherwise, it would take almost 3 dozen eggs to equal the calories in one gallon of milk, which even at $2 per dozen would be twice the cost of the cheapest milk.
[quote]MrMuzik wrote:
Plus, a gallon of whole milk provides 2400 calories for $3 to $6, depending on where you buy and whether you buy organic or not. The only time that I have seen eggs cheaper than milk on a cost per calorie basis is the 60 egg flat at Costco which goes for $5. Otherwise, it would take almost 3 dozen eggs to equal the calories in one gallon of milk, which even at $2 per dozen would be twice the cost of the cheapest milk.[/quote]
Yes, I agree on the price issue. I found a deal where I got every 12th gallon of milk free, which brought it down to just under $3/gallon. Around $90 a month. Whenever there weren’t other plans with coworkers or the gf, I was drinking milk. The other stuff cost more.
I was pretty much living on whole milk exclusively from February to June, and before then, it had been a pretty significant part of my diet.
Cup of oatmeal
4 eggs
Cup of milk
3 tablespoons peanut butter
Pinch of salt
Washed down with a cup of grapefruit juice.
Beat the eggs and salt into the milk and then add the oatmeal, mix in. Stick in the Microwave for 2-3 minutes. Mix in the peanut butter and eat. 3 of these a day will give you 100% or more of the DVA of all necessary vitamins and minerals, apart from vitamin K (which you could consider supplementing) and over 200g of protein. I lived almost exclusively on this stuff for 3 months with no issues and decent gains. Takes no time to prepare and is very cheap.
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Does this taste good? What’s the consistency?
I’m genuinely interested in trying this lol… Probably when I get home
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
This thread is depressing. Cooking and eating can be one of the great joys of life and it can help performance at the same time. Each to his own, I guess. [/quote]
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Its def depressing that so many are so deeply entrenched in the rat race of this modern era and cannot even find time to enjoy our most basic pursuits/needs.
Even one generation ago, things were not this way…
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It has nothing to do with “rat race” lol. There are just a ton of things I find way more enjoyable than eating food. Eating food is kind of boring.
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Actually, it has everything to do with modern life.
Just two generations ago, a decent portion of one’s day was spent on some part of the food prep process. Think: hunting, harvesting, gathering, milking, slaughtering, preparing, preserving etc. Not to mention the actual eating part, which has had a strong SOCIAL component as well throughout human history.
So you see, all these modern distractions that lead you to find that “Eating food is kind of boring,” well, good luck with that hectic, rat-race-paced lifestyle of yours.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
This thread is depressing. Cooking and eating can be one of the great joys of life and it can help performance at the same time. Each to his own, I guess. [/quote]
x100
Its def depressing that so many are so deeply entrenched in the rat race of this modern era and cannot even find time to enjoy our most basic pursuits/needs.
Even one generation ago, things were not this way…
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It has nothing to do with “rat race” lol. There are just a ton of things I find way more enjoyable than eating food. Eating food is kind of boring.
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Actually, it has everything to do with modern life.
Just two generations ago, a decent portion of one’s day was spent on some part of the food prep process. Think: hunting, harvesting, gathering, milking, slaughtering, preparing, preserving etc. Not to mention the actual eating part, which has had a strong SOCIAL component as well throughout human history.
So you see, all these modern distractions that lead you to find that “Eating food is kind of boring,” well, good luck with that hectic, rat-race-paced lifestyle of yours.
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Exactly. This is one reason I seriously doubt if I will ever have kids. Our modern society isn’t suited well to have kids and lead healthy lives. Obviously it can be done, but with both parents needing to work these days (for most of us), raising kids while trying to fit in exercise and cooking/prepping food pose serious challenges.
Hunting and food preparation went to the curb for many in the upper class long ago. It’s simply not a real useful time spend unless you have a passion for cooking.
Add a hour of fitness into your day as a busy and well-paid professional and those little things like washing your own car, doing your own lawn, cooking, etc become less important.
I love my BMW M3, I have a garage full of almost every Mequiar, 303, Detailer’s Paradise, etc product, a nice Porter Cable RO Buffer and the full Wave pad system. I simply don’t have time to detail my own car…I’d much rather spend my day’s off getting my dog to dog park for a couple hours, going to the gym, and relaxing/gathering with friends/catching up on movies. Add this to the fact that if I spend an extra few hours a week just reading various books/taking various training, I can seriously grow my salary year to year.
Fortunately I have a wife that loves to cook, doesn’t need to hit a gym (she’s on her feet all day and active), and finds it easy to multi-task cleaning/cooking while watching her shows on her laptop.
[quote]chillain wrote:
Actually, it has everything to do with modern life.
Just two generations ago, a decent portion of one’s day was spent on some part of the food prep process. Think: hunting, harvesting, gathering, milking, slaughtering, preparing, preserving etc. Not to mention the actual eating part, which has had a strong SOCIAL component as well throughout human history.
So you see, all these modern distractions that lead you to find that “Eating food is kind of boring,” well, good luck with that hectic, rat-race-paced lifestyle of yours.
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So spending my free time doing what I enjoy = hectic, rat-race-paced lifestyle. Lol, lucky me, I never noticed! My friends and I have a lot more fun shooting pool and playing video games for their social components rather than cooking. If powerlifting, golf, video games, and long leisurely walks with the dog and a cigar is too fast paced, I’m not sure what to say lol.
[quote]chillain wrote:
Actually, it has everything to do with modern life.
Just two generations ago, a decent portion of one’s day was spent on some part of the food prep process. Think: hunting, harvesting, gathering, milking, slaughtering, preparing, preserving etc. Not to mention the actual eating part, which has had a strong SOCIAL component as well throughout human history.
So you see, all these modern distractions that lead you to find that “Eating food is kind of boring,” well, good luck with that hectic, rat-race-paced lifestyle of yours.
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You seem to think 12 hr shifts are normal and/or not in the rat race I guess… unless you’re like a nurse or something, but then you’d have off like 4 days with plenty of time for other things.
But, to stop harping on you, I’d say find a couple good go to batch recipes that you can make and do that once to 2 x per week.
Cup of oatmeal
4 eggs
Cup of milk
3 tablespoons peanut butter
Pinch of salt
Washed down with a cup of grapefruit juice.
Beat the eggs and salt into the milk and then add the oatmeal, mix in. Stick in the Microwave for 2-3 minutes. Mix in the peanut butter and eat. 3 of these a day will give you 100% or more of the DVA of all necessary vitamins and minerals, apart from vitamin K (which you could consider supplementing) and over 200g of protein. I lived almost exclusively on this stuff for 3 months with no issues and decent gains. Takes no time to prepare and is very cheap.
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You sir are a genius…just tried this and its fing Epic!
Note: The PB didnt mix well, so i just eat it after I down the shake…