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Thanks again for the good info VR.

[quote]V R wrote:
rfish1966 wrote:
VR
Thanks for the reply, I am going to try once a week but my wife works in another office and says she see’s people like me always wanting to push it…one battle at a time I guess. This whole forum is great, you and Ksman and a few other are a great source of info and experience.

P.S. She has agreed to once a week after looking at the half life and did her own research on HCG and wants me to ask the doctor for it. I did feel pretty good yesterday. First time in a long time I actually took her to dinner instead of just going home to sit on the couch.

Great news. Taking control in your own health and well being is empowering.

If you can hold off starting injects until you get hCG, that would be best. You can literally damage the testicals, permanently, from T use without hCG. You want to preserve testicals not just for looks sake, but you want to keep your prior existing T levels. In fact, hCG will boost preexisting T levels. Add in the T you will be injecting, and you will be feeling great.

After you get that sorted out, then move into more frequent injects.
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Still waiting to hear from my doc about HCG. I did get my AI and wouldn’t ya know it, this morning I had morning wood. I totally forgot what it was like.

Felt great for the first few hours of the day but now I am tired as hell and my joints are killing me, can’t think straight. My next cyp shot should be saturday but I might do it tomorrow morning…my wife says I am starting to sound like a junkie just waiting for my next fix.

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[quote]rfish1966 wrote:
Still waiting to hear from my doc about HCG. I did get my AI and wouldn’t ya know it, this morning I had morning wood. I totally forgot what it was like.

Felt great for the first few hours of the day but now I am tired as hell and my joints are killing me, can’t think straight. My next cyp shot should be saturday but I might do it tomorrow morning…my wife says I am starting to sound like a junkie just waiting for my next fix.[/quote]

Are you injecting once a week? Many have found that that drops them into a hole at the end of the week.

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Yeah, once a week. I want to do twice a week. Maybe after saturday…something has to change, I got really really winded walking to the car etc etc etc.

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Once a week injects will not cut it. It is a proven fact that T levels are dramatically lower by the 5th day, sometimes as low as a 50 percent drop.

Try every 3 days/

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[quote]happydog48 wrote:
Understanding Research Chemicals

Sorry if I came off snarky in my post. One of my gym partners is now facing legal problems because of something he said to a fellow gym member. No good deed goes unpunished.

There is a drug called Arimidex. It is only available by prescription. Arimidex is a registered trademark of the AstraZeneca group of companies.

There is a chemical called anastrozole. It is legally sold “over the counter” as a chemical. It is not sold as a drug.

Arimidex and anastrozole are the same chemical.

That doesn’t mean they are the same in every way. It is possible that the medicinal form of a chemical has additives or has been diluted significantly from the “pure chemical” version. Before you put anything into your body, know what you’re doing.

I have a PDR (Physician’s Desk Reference) at home that I use to check every medication given to me by my doctor. I often find important information that my doctor forgets to tell me (or doesn’t know about). I never trust anyone when it comes to my health and well being.

I find out for myself what is what and then I decide if I am going to take it or not. I wouldn’t trust a doctor any more than I would trust a guy from my gym. Both may give me recommendations, but I never accept anything blindly from anyone. Use what you learn here and elsewhere as a jumping off point to your personal education. Be careful and be safe![/quote]

MANY have used liquidex from the research chem guys. I have spoken with dozens. All with great results.

I refuse to pay for the ridiculous costs of arimidex(upwards of 8 - 10 bucks a mg!) when I can get liquidex for a dollar per week.

If you can afford to pay 10 TIMES the cost, then by all means go for it.

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Just got my adex, and Plan to inject monday or tuesday if I still feel bad.

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I am interested in the idea of Research Chemicals. On the sites they say " not for human consumption" which makes me a little nervous about ingesting something that has that label attached to it. what does anyone else think about that? P.M me if needed

It’s almost to good to be true, no prescription, a-lot cheaper, I don’t have to see a half-wit M.D. and it’s delivered to my home. HMMMMMMM…

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[quote]bb4life wrote:
I am interested in the idea of Research Chemicals.

On the sites they say " not for human consumption" which makes me a little nervous about ingesting something that has that label attached to it. what does anyone else think about that? P.M me if needed

It’s almost to good to be true, no prescription, a-lot cheaper, I don’t have to see a half-wit M.D. and it’s delivered to my home. HMMMMMMM…[/quote]

“not for human consumption” is one definition of a research chem, it is not sold as a drug, so quit looking for comfy drug statements.

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Hey K I am not trying to be hostile with you I am just trying to get the best info possible from the knowledgeable people here which yourself is included. just because that phrase triggered a red flag does not mean I am looking for a “beef” from anybody just some help and honest opinions

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I guess it’s no different from DIM or anything else for that matter, you just have to do the reading and make your own conclusion about what you want to do.
There is a ton of info on here. Took me almost a week to sort thru both the steroid and the 35 and older thread as well as a few other boards. Google alone occupied about 3 weeks of research for TRT, adex and hcg. HCG is one that sounds very underrated…Hopefully My doctor will perscribe that soon. My wife did enough research to want me on it.
Also I have a note book with a complete log of my day to day experience from day one to current I hope to post when I get time.

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BB, check out the post’s by vr and KSman, actually the whole 35 and older thread is a gold mine. Who else…buffed samurai I think several others. Anabolic minds and bodybuilding.com has some good threads as well. I am really to new at this to offer much input.

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I can’t figure out what the hold up is with the HCG now. The doctor knows as far as fertility my numbers are very low, motility bad etc…HCG seems pretty standard. I faxed him a few different things and all I get back for the last 3 weeks is he is looking into it…

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[quote]plymouth city wrote:
happydog48 wrote:
Understanding Research Chemicals

Sorry if I came off snarky in my post. One of my gym partners is now facing legal problems because of something he said to a fellow gym member. No good deed goes unpunished.

There is a drug called Arimidex. It is only available by prescription. Arimidex is a registered trademark of the AstraZeneca group of companies.

There is a chemical called anastrozole. It is legally sold “over the counter” as a chemical. It is not sold as a drug.

Arimidex and anastrozole are the same chemical.

That doesn’t mean they are the same in every way. It is possible that the medicinal form of a chemical has additives or has been diluted significantly from the “pure chemical” version. Before you put anything into your body, know what you’re doing.

I have a PDR (Physician’s Desk Reference) at home that I use to check every medication given to me by my doctor. I often find important information that my doctor forgets to tell me (or doesn’t know about). I never trust anyone when it comes to my health and well being.

I find out for myself what is what and then I decide if I am going to take it or not. I wouldn’t trust a doctor any more than I would trust a guy from my gym. Both may give me recommendations, but I never accept anything blindly from anyone. Use what you learn here and elsewhere as a jumping off point to your personal education. Be careful and be safe!

MANY have used liquidex from the research chem guys. I have spoken with dozens. All with great results.

I refuse to pay for the ridiculous costs of arimidex(upwards of 8 - 10 bucks a mg!) when I can get liquidex for a dollar per week.

If you can afford to pay 10 TIMES the cost, then by all means go for it. [/quote]

Has any ordered from these guys? I noticed the Liquidex and got me to thinking. However, there are many other chems on their list that I have no idea about. Can someone give me some direction on what some affects might be with any of these products?

Thanks!

www.ag-guys.com/store/home.php

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AG guys looks alright, just a little spendy is all.

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[quote]rfish1966 wrote:
AG guys looks alright, just a little spendy is all.[/quote]

I’m going to PM you when I get a few things cleared off my plate.

I’ve got a few questions for you…

Peace

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I posted this on the I hate your doctor thread.
After getting back blood work and sperm anyalsis and getting 200mg test cyp every two weeks (right now I do 100 a week) He calls back after almost 3 weeks about my HCG question and says “maybe” that or clomid…then a long pause and he says neither.

I am armed with a bunch of info and plan to go to my regular doc and just ask for HCG.
Stupid douche bag urologist…