[quote]anonym wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
Looked to me like the little guy was “ended” after the first shot - he was just blindly trying to stagger away after that. The rest was just a gratuitous beating.
And, besides…driven his fingers into the other man’s eyes and “web strike” his throat? Is that before or after he delivers a crane kick?
The big guy didn’t know how to fight…and you are assuming the other guy does?
This isn’t a Jet Li movie; he was just some guy trying to get a pizza for himself and his fiancee.[/quote]
The goal of Senshido is to make size and bulk irrelevant. It assumes that anyone attacking you must feel confident because they are bigger/stronger/male/younger, and so on. Eye strikes and throat strikes make those things irrelevant.
The strikes are very practical — they were taught to Marines during WWII, because we assumed that all Japanese knew martial art, for example.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Yeah, that really looks like the situation on the tape. And the woman going out to get a 300 pound maniac didn’t constitute a threat at all.
For me, that’d mean the safety came off.
Officer: “You have the right to remain silent, anything you say…”
Headhunter: “But officer, you don’t understand! The safety was off! I thought he was going to punch me!!!”[/quote]
Wow, can you display your stupidity with any greater breadth and depth? You really know very little about this. Why do you post and show your ignorance?
This thread was way more interesting the last time around…and full of less would-be MMA masters.
I haven’t read all pages, so I am sure this has been stated before, but the best way out of situations like that is to avoid them in the first place. That includes LOOKING like you would be the last one to be fucked with in that same situation. I doubt that woman would have laid her hands on someone damn near the same size as her 300lbs boyfriend. That would have been a completely different exchange.
Most of the people talking about what they would have done would have actually stood there like everyone else in that same situation.
The first part of being prepared for that 300lbs maniac is looking like you could take that 300lbs maniac in the first place.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
The first part of being prepared for that 300lbs maniac is looking like you could take that 300lbs maniac in the first place.[/quote]
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Yeah, that really looks like the situation on the tape. And the woman going out to get a 300 pound maniac didn’t constitute a threat at all.
For me, that’d mean the safety came off.
Officer: “You have the right to remain silent, anything you say…”
Headhunter: “But officer, you don’t understand! The safety was off! I thought he was going to punch me!!!”[/quote]
Better to explain that to the cops than explain to your doctor why you have to drink through a straw for 6 months.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
…he could have moved or hit the guy back in mid-swing or in other words, Jeet Kune Do his butt.
great idea.
Let me know how that works out for you. [/quote]
It has worked fine in the past. In fact, keeping eye contact and an intent and attitude that implies the attacker will not get out of it without serious harm to himself, has kept me out of many fights.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This thread was way more interesting the last time around…and full of less would-be MMA masters.
I haven’t read all pages, so I am sure this has been stated before, but the best way out of situations like that is to avoid them in the first place. That includes LOOKING like you would be the last one to be fucked with in that same situation. I doubt that woman would have laid her hands on someone damn near the same size as her 300lbs boyfriend. That would have been a completely different exchange.
Most of the people talking about what they would have done would have actually stood there like everyone else in that same situation.
The first part of being prepared for that 300lbs maniac is looking like you could take that 300lbs maniac in the first place.[/quote]
I agree. Cell phone guy was not engaged and did not appear as if he would give the fat guy trouble if he attached him.
It’s the same old story; most guys who pick fights do it to others that they perceive as weak or vulnerable. Most will not pick a fight with someone they perceive will give it right back to them.
I mean, honestly, what do you do? Does anyone know with certainty what the legal repercussions are for stepping in and helping this guy? If I step in, choke this guy out, do I go to jail for assault, eventhough it was the “right” thing to do?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This thread was way more interesting the last time around…and full of less would-be MMA masters.
I haven’t read all pages, so I am sure this has been stated before, but the best way out of situations like that is to avoid them in the first place. That includes LOOKING like you would be the last one to be fucked with in that same situation. I doubt that woman would have laid her hands on someone damn near the same size as her 300lbs boyfriend. That would have been a completely different exchange.
Most of the people talking about what they would have done would have actually stood there like everyone else in that same situation.
The first part of being prepared for that 300lbs maniac is looking like you could take that 300lbs maniac in the first place.[/quote]
I agree. It is far better to discourage and de-escalate, and being huge does both.
Speaking of doing both, be sure to add skills to size, just in case the other guy is NOT intimidated. The best way to do that, IMHO, is to acquire skills that are not effected by size, like Senshido.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Yeah, that really looks like the situation on the tape. And the woman going out to get a 300 pound maniac didn’t constitute a threat at all.
For me, that’d mean the safety came off.
Officer: “You have the right to remain silent, anything you say…”
Headhunter: “But officer, you don’t understand! The safety was off! I thought he was going to punch me!!!”
Wow, can you display your stupidity with any greater breadth and depth? You really know very little about this. Why do you post and show your ignorance?
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Yeah, I’m sure if you call me stupid, we’ll be too distracted to know that what you suggested would get you charged with aggravated assault. Great strategy, Patton.
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Yeah, that really looks like the situation on the tape. And the woman going out to get a 300 pound maniac didn’t constitute a threat at all.
For me, that’d mean the safety came off.
Officer: “You have the right to remain silent, anything you say…”
Headhunter: “But officer, you don’t understand! The safety was off! I thought he was going to punch me!!!”
Better to explain that to the cops than explain to your doctor why you have to drink through a straw for 6 months.
Aleksandr wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
…he could have moved or hit the guy back in mid-swing or in other words, Jeet Kune Do his butt.
great idea.
Let me know how that works out for you.
It has worked fine in the past. In fact, keeping eye contact and an intent and attitude that implies the attacker will not get out of it without serious harm to himself, has kept me out of many fights.
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I haven’t read all pages, so I am sure this has been stated before, but the best way out of situations like that is to avoid them in the first place. That includes LOOKING like you would be the last one to be fucked with in that same situation. I doubt that woman would have laid her hands on someone damn near the same size as her 300lbs boyfriend. That would have been a completely different exchange.
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The first part of being prepared for that 300lbs maniac is looking like you could take that 300lbs maniac in the first place.[/quote]
Wouldn’t not talking shit about someone else – who may or may not then fly into a crazy violent rage and bring in equally crazy violent others who may or may not weigh 300lbs – be the first avenue of avoidance?
Am I the ONLY one whose mama told her not to say things that aren’t nice about other people? Really??
As I recall she said something along the lines of “Emily, dear, if you can’t say anything nice, then just STFU, because you never know when someone might have a violent criminal of a boyfriend waiting outside to whale on your ass for distressing his girl.”
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Yeah, that really looks like the situation on the tape. And the woman going out to get a 300 pound maniac didn’t constitute a threat at all.
For me, that’d mean the safety came off.
Officer: “You have the right to remain silent, anything you say…”
Headhunter: “But officer, you don’t understand! The safety was off! I thought he was going to punch me!!!”
Better to explain that to the cops than explain to your doctor why you have to drink through a straw for 6 months.
Aleksandr wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
…he could have moved or hit the guy back in mid-swing or in other words, Jeet Kune Do his butt.
great idea.
Let me know how that works out for you.
It has worked fine in the past. In fact, keeping eye contact and an intent and attitude that implies the attacker will not get out of it without serious harm to himself, has kept me out of many fights.
I haven’t read all pages, so I am sure this has been stated before, but the best way out of situations like that is to avoid them in the first place. That includes LOOKING like you would be the last one to be fucked with in that same situation. I doubt that woman would have laid her hands on someone damn near the same size as her 300lbs boyfriend. That would have been a completely different exchange.
…
The first part of being prepared for that 300lbs maniac is looking like you could take that 300lbs maniac in the first place.
Wouldn’t not talking shit about someone else – who may or may not then fly into a crazy violent rage and bring in equally crazy violent others who may or may not weigh 300lbs – be the first avenue of avoidance?
Am I the ONLY one whose mama told her not to say things that aren’t nice about other people? Really??
As I recall she said something along the lines of “Emily, dear, if you can’t say anything nice, then just STFU, because you never know when someone might have a violent criminal of a boyfriend waiting outside to whale on your ass for distressing his girl.”[/quote]
That’s a good point. There is no need to be rude and being an asshole and then getting pounded for it is different than being polite and then having to defend yourself. Not saying it is right that the fat guy threw down, but cell-guy was being a butthead as well.
I haven’t read all pages, so I am sure this has been stated before, but the best way out of situations like that is to avoid them in the first place. That includes LOOKING like you would be the last one to be fucked with in that same situation. I doubt that woman would have laid her hands on someone damn near the same size as her 300lbs boyfriend. That would have been a completely different exchange.
…
The first part of being prepared for that 300lbs maniac is looking like you could take that 300lbs maniac in the first place.
Wouldn’t not talking shit about someone else – who may or may not then fly into a crazy violent rage and bring in equally crazy violent others who may or may not weigh 300lbs – be the first avenue of avoidance?
Am I the ONLY one whose mama told her not to say things that aren’t nice about other people? Really??
As I recall she said something along the lines of “Emily, dear, if you can’t say anything nice, then just STFU, because you never know when someone might have a violent criminal of a boyfriend waiting outside to whale on your ass for distressing his girl.”[/quote]
LOL. Yes, writing checks your ass can’t cash is never a good idea. He got punked. I bet he won’t talk about anyone else.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
How old are you?
Over 30yrs old.
Oh Jesus
And you think that using mad Bruce Lee skillz to throw down with a drug dealer in a pizzeria is a way to a long, healthy life?[/quote]
What are you smoking?
I never said anything about a long life or throwing down with a drug dealer. All I said was that cell-guy should have been more polite and he probably won’t have been beaten. But if he was polite and the guy still went after him, he should defend yourself.
If you are saying that people should not defend themselves for fear of getting hurt you are naive and a victim in training. Criminals love guys like you.
I don’t think that standing there and not defending yourself is a way to a long life. But if you do, tell me where you live and I’ll have my baby sister come by and kick you ass and take your lunch money.
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
How old are you?
Over 30yrs old.
Oh Jesus
And you think that using mad Bruce Lee skillz to throw down with a drug dealer in a pizzeria is a way to a long, healthy life?
What are you smoking?
I never said anything about a long life or throwing down with a drug dealer. All I said was that cell-guy should have been more polite and he probably won’t have been beaten. But if he was polite and the guy still went after him, he should defend yourself.
If you are saying that people should not defend themselves for fear of getting hurt you are naive and a victim in training. Criminals love guys like you.
I don’t think that standing there and not defending yourself is a way to a long life. But if you do, tell me where you live and I’ll have my baby sister come by and kick you ass and take your lunch money.
[/quote]
Yeah, send your baby sister. Tell her to wait until I swing, duck, and punch me back mid-swing. Jeet Kune Do my butt.
I haven’t read all pages, so I am sure this has been stated before, but the best way out of situations like that is to avoid them in the first place. That includes LOOKING like you would be the last one to be fucked with in that same situation. I doubt that woman would have laid her hands on someone damn near the same size as her 300lbs boyfriend. That would have been a completely different exchange.
…
The first part of being prepared for that 300lbs maniac is looking like you could take that 300lbs maniac in the first place.
Wouldn’t not talking shit about someone else – who may or may not then fly into a crazy violent rage and bring in equally crazy violent others who may or may not weigh 300lbs – be the first avenue of avoidance?
Am I the ONLY one whose mama told her not to say things that aren’t nice about other people? Really??
As I recall she said something along the lines of “Emily, dear, if you can’t say anything nice, then just STFU, because you never know when someone might have a violent criminal of a boyfriend waiting outside to whale on your ass for distressing his girl.”[/quote]
I would prefer to take the risk and speak up when someone does something that pisses me off. There is no way I’m going to let someone get away with pushing in front of me in a line just on the remote chance that they may have a violent boyfriend in the vicinity.
With that said though, the guy should have waited to make sure that the woman actually was pushing in, and not just checking the menu.
