[quote]Makavali wrote:
Phoenix1911 wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
I hate you all so much
except Emily.
I <3 social workers.
So you’re worth less than 3 social workers?
I’d like to say WTF? I posted this, but somehow my computer logged me on as Phoenix1911 for a second there.[/quote]
Next time he spends the night, tell him not to hit the “remember me” button.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Next time he spends the night, tell him not to hit the “remember me” button.[/quote]
What the…? Sonofabitch.
[quote]DouglasJ16 wrote:
It’s a tough situation no doubt. The guy on the cell phone was obviously being a dumb ass and didn’t handle the situation as best he could. Maybe he deserved to take a punch or two–definitely not what he ended up getting though. It’s unfortunate that the guys in there didn’t do anything, though. Could they have held him down until the cops came? You bet. Did he have buddies in the car or a gun in his pants? Not sure…hindsight is 20/20, thats all I know.
It comes down to what TC wrote about a little bit ago: being a man. You have to try your best to think and do the right thing.
If the fight has broken out already, the first task is a big failure. As people have mentioned it’s a way better idea to try to talk to these 2 guys and disarm them, get the one to apologize and tell the other dude he didn’t mean it and he’s dumb and you don’t want to end up in jail for killing him.
WTF is with this lack of human decency? Mr. Hot Shot drug dealer feels the need to beat the hell out of this guy for making a fleeting comment about the dumb broad who did something wrong in the first place. It’s not a fair fight too, I mean I’m all for natural selection, but c’mon…you’re gonna try to kill this guy who’s 1/2 your size for a comment? A COMMENT? He’s got parents, siblings, friends, a life it totally blows my mind that people make such a big deal out of such a small incident. Sure scare his ass, maybe push him around, but that just proves the big drug dealer is a coward and totally lacks any decency or sense of reality.
(Same goes for the grocery store hero… just pathetic)
Just like health and fitness (the basis of T-Nation)…most people have no idea how to, and don’t care to, learn to act the right way.[/quote]
Exactly, your average tough guy I would do something would make it worse. The time to do something was before it got out of hand.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
A nice coke bottle or equivalent to the face of fatty. Someone should’ve taken care of the girlfriend as well…maybe little Bo Peep standing in the back on her cell phone. That’s one stupid bitch.
Dude should’ve at least KNEED fatty in the balls.
In other countries, fatty would’ve been taken out back by shop owner and neighboring shop owners, beaten to a pulp and left for authorities to pick up.
Shit, isn’t there at least ONE rolling pin at a pizza place? Come on, Mr. Manager.[/quote]
i’ve seen videos of dudes stoned in public for stealing in china. I wish this had happened there
[quote]tom63 wrote:
DouglasJ16 wrote:
It’s a tough situation no doubt. The guy on the cell phone was obviously being a dumb ass and didn’t handle the situation as best he could.
Maybe he deserved to take a punch or two–definitely not what he ended up getting though. It’s unfortunate that the guys in there didn’t do anything, though. Could they have held him down until the cops came? You bet. Did he have buddies in the car or a gun in his pants? Not sure…hindsight is 20/20, thats all I know.
It comes down to what TC wrote about a little bit ago: being a man. You have to try your best to think and do the right thing.
If the fight has broken out already, the first task is a big failure. As people have mentioned it’s a way better idea to try to talk to these 2 guys and disarm them, get the one to apologize and tell the other dude he didn’t mean it and he’s dumb and you don’t want to end up in jail for killing him.
WTF is with this lack of human decency? Mr. Hot Shot drug dealer feels the need to beat the hell out of this guy for making a fleeting comment about the dumb broad who did something wrong in the first place. It’s not a fair fight too, I mean I’m all for natural selection, but c’mon…you’re gonna try to kill this guy who’s 1/2 your size for a comment? A COMMENT?
He’s got parents, siblings, friends, a life it totally blows my mind that people make such a big deal out of such a small incident. Sure scare his ass, maybe push him around, but that just proves the big drug dealer is a coward and totally lacks any decency or sense of reality.
(Same goes for the grocery store hero… just pathetic)
A real (smart) man would’ve done everything in his power to deescalate the situation. Just like a man wouldn’t beat a woman, try to shoot or stab someone unless it was life or death, or make a tiny incident–like a comment, grocery store line cut, or seat at a casino-- such a big fucking deal that someone will end up dead or in the ER.
Just like health and fitness (the basis of T-Nation)…most people have no idea how to, and don’t care to, learn to act the right way.
Exactly, your average tough guy I would do something would make it worse. The time to do something was before it got out of hand.
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IN poor innner city neighborhoods, people take respect VERY seriously. There are many theories on why this is and it explains why violent crime is higher in said areas. Its all in the upbringing. IF they were middle class its not as big of a deal, but from the neighborhoods they grew up in…respect and being a man is very vital
Every time I read people talking about “deescalating” the situation, I think about that scene from Kingpin in the bar…where Munson knocks out Ishmael to prevent him from getting his ass kicked by the gang of rednecks.
“Take that, you freaky piece of shit! You don’t mow another guy’s lawn!”
Then we take the black guy out for a beer so he doesn’t suspect anything…
[quote]GettingBigNow wrote:
IN poor innner city neighborhoods, people take respect VERY seriously. There are many theories on why this is and it explains why violent crime is higher in said areas. Its all in the upbringing. IF they were middle class its not as big of a deal, but from the neighborhoods they grew up in…respect and being a man is very vital
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Trust me, I know why; it’s because those egos are so fragile.
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
GettingBigNow wrote:
IN poor innner city neighborhoods, people take respect VERY seriously. There are many theories on why this is and it explains why violent crime is higher in said areas. Its all in the upbringing. IF they were middle class its not as big of a deal, but from the neighborhoods they grew up in…respect and being a man is very vital
Trust me, I know why; it’s because those egos are so fragile. [/quote]
Brilliant insight, professor.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
http://www.senshido.com/main-t2.html
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Yeah, whenever I’m in a tense situation, I go straight for the eyes.
“Excuse me sir, would you like to buy some cookies?”
“BAAAAAAH! MY EYES!!! WHY???”
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
http://www.senshido.com/main-t2.html
Yeah, whenever I’m in a tense situation, I go straight for the eyes.
“Excuse me sir, would you like to buy some cookies?”
“BAAAAAAH! MY EYES!!! WHY???”[/quote]
LMFAO
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
http://www.senshido.com/main-t2.html
Yeah, whenever I’m in a tense situation, I go straight for the eyes.
“Excuse me sir, would you like to buy some cookies?”
“BAAAAAAH! MY EYES!!! WHY???”[/quote]
Yeah, that really looks like the situation on the tape. And the woman going out to get a 300 pound maniac didn’t constitute a threat at all.
For me, that’d mean the safety came off.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Aleksandr wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
http://www.senshido.com/main-t2.html
Yeah, whenever I’m in a tense situation, I go straight for the eyes.
“Excuse me sir, would you like to buy some cookies?”
“BAAAAAAH! MY EYES!!! WHY???”
LMFAO
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As big and fat as it is, that’ll take a long time. Guess you won’t be posting until next month.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
http://www.senshido.com/main-t2.html
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I watched this again and I have to agree. The guy is big, but very slow and deliberate in his movement. So if cell-phone guy would have been paying attention, and never, never, never, looked away in a confrontation �?? like he did, he could have moved or hit the guy back in mid-swing or in other words, Jeet Kune Do his butt.
I’m also wondering why cell-guy threw down and apparently broke his own phone? That will teach them, I will break my own damn phone. What was that all about?
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
I’m also wondering why cell-guy threw down and apparently broke his own phone? That will teach them, I will break my own damn phone. What was that all about?[/quote]
He switched the phone into his other hand before hitting the table. You can see it in his right hand a few seconds later.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
http://www.senshido.com/main-t2.html
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Looked to me like the little guy was “ended” after the first shot - he was just blindly trying to stagger away after that. The rest was just a gratuitous beating.
And, besides…driven his fingers into the other man’s eyes and “web strike” his throat? Is that before or after he delivers a crane kick?
[quote]The big guy didn’t know how to fight[/quote]…and you are assuming the other guy does?
This isn’t a Jet Li movie; he was just some guy trying to get a pizza for himself and his fiancee.
[quote]anonym wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Always strike first. Notice how it took a huge guy 7 blows to end the little guy too. The big guy didn’t know how to fight.
The moment cell phone dude perceived any threat, he should have driven his fingers straight into the eyes of Fat Man, and shredded his eyes… Blind him good. Then a web strike to the throat to cut off his air. Then run, since Fat Man may have friends around.
http://www.senshido.com/main-t2.html
Looked to me like the little guy was “ended” after the first shot - he was just blindly trying to stagger away after that. The rest was just a gratuitous beating.
And, besides…driven his fingers into the other man’s eyes and “web strike” his throat? Is that before or after he delivers a crane kick?
The big guy didn’t know how to fight…and you are assuming the other guy does?
This isn’t a Jet Li movie; he was just some guy trying to get a pizza for himself and his fiancee.[/quote]
Even if he can’t fight he should be able to duck. Cell-guy looked away when the big guy was in his face and that is when he got sucker-punched. Chances are that if he kept eye contact the big guy would not have thrown down, or at least he could have ducked out of the way because he saw it coming; and it was coming sloooow!
[quote]GettingBigNow wrote:
IN poor innner city neighborhoods, people take respect VERY seriously. There are many theories on why this is and it explains why violent crime is higher in said areas. Its all in the upbringing. IF they were middle class its not as big of a deal, but from the neighborhoods they grew up in…respect and being a man is very vital
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I understand completely. I think it’s a sense of insecurity and/or worrying about being judged by your peers (like fitting into a gang). Cell phone man would’ve looked like a pussy (to some) backing down, but it would’ve saved him a busted eye socket/nose/jaw and it would’ve saved fat man some time behind bars.
For the record, I’m pretty sure thats not the first time that dumb bitch in the camo brought her big ass boyfriend around so she could run her mouth to whomever she wants.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Yeah, that really looks like the situation on the tape. And the woman going out to get a 300 pound maniac didn’t constitute a threat at all.
For me, that’d mean the safety came off.
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Officer: “You have the right to remain silent, anything you say…”
Headhunter: “But officer, you don’t understand! The safety was off! I thought he was going to punch me!!!”
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
…he could have moved or hit the guy back in mid-swing or in other words, Jeet Kune Do his butt.
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great idea.
Let me know how that works out for you.