The only problem with that is that if you live in a country where carrying weapons is illegal a prospective sheepdog is denied his fangs.
I can’t believe the people in this thread justifying what the lady in camo did. She had a right to be mad? No, she didn’t. She cut in line and got called out on it. She is the type of bitch that causes shit and then sicks her criminal bf on people.
But please, go on making excuses for her. Claim that he called her a ni**er and attack the victim. That is about par for the course now days. Those two animals should be locked away until they are too old to hurt anybody.
[quote]FZane wrote:
I can’t believe the people in this thread justifying what the lady in camo did. She had a right to be mad? No, she didn’t. She cut in line and got called out on it. She is the type of bitch that causes shit and then sicks her criminal bf on people.
But please, go on making excuses for her. Claim that he called her a ni**er and attack the victim. That is about par for the course now days. Those two animals should be locked away until they are too old to hurt anybody.[/quote]
I’m not personally doing that, but I always think how can I prevent problems. Her and her boyfriend were dead wrong, but the guy played a very small part in the whole thing. there was of course no need for her reaction and his.
I have a very pragmatic view of stuff now at 44. and staying out of trouble is one thing I try very hard to do.
I’m a chiropractor in a small town. If I shoot off my mouth for every bit of rudeness I see, I can seriously hurt my business. Some I often bite my tongue. This of course has a side effect of decreasing my personal drama a ton, which I like. Again, this is not a personal safety issue first, it’s a business issue.
If I chose my patient base from people of high quality, I’d be broke in a month. you have to put of with a certain amount of nonsense. The other day I was waiting to pay for some milk at a convenience store. The young white trashy unwed mother in front of me was buying two 32 oz gatorades, cigarettes, and a cigar, using an access ( welfare) card.
Now this pisses me off. Welfare is not for buying convenience store drinks and cigarettes and cigars. But why say anything? It won’t change anything, it won’t hurt my business, and it’s best just to concentrate on raising my kids right. I can’t fix other people.
In situations like this video, you need to decide what to do very quickly and smartly. You might decide to come to the guy’s aid, call the cops, render first aid, or be a good witness. All are under my heading of good citizens.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
johnnytang24 wrote:
I’m so hardcore I would have whooped that black dude’s ass, bitch slapped his woman, stomped the cell phone guy, then beat the manager for not having my pizza ready.
Sometimes you just can’t let shit slide.
LOL, I think Nat would’ve powercleaned his woman through the window first.[/quote]
She woulda powercleaned me through the window for making her wait on the pizza.
Nice post PUSH. I started a different reply but thought better of it, for what is the point really?
Count me sheepdog here. And let’s just say I’m ashamed, but not one bit surprised, of most of you. If you have been blessed with the ability or capacity to help, you must act and be damned with the consequences.
We all have an obligation to help or protect those weaker than us - and that goes beyond a physical confrontation.
I couldn’t even get beyond the second page of this pathetic thread.
Very nice post PUSH.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
In situations like this video, you need to decide what to do very quickly and smartly. You might decide to come to the guy’s aid, call the cops, render first aid, or be a good witness. All are under my heading of good citizens.
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I consider myself a pragmatist too, but only in matters requiring pragmatism. I hope to never go into battle side by side with a pragmatist. Some situations beg for action, not cold analysis. I dare say when someone’s health and safety is at risk, the situation begs for immediate action. Doing what is required is being a good citizen. Being a good witness in this situation is for the female species.
If every man in that lobby was a decent man, that attack could not have occurred and would not have been tolerated. Some situations require storming the cockpit, box cutters be damned.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I couldn’t even get beyond the second page of this pathetic thread.
Very nice post PUSH.
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And yet here you are. 
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
tom63 wrote:
In situations like this video, you need to decide what to do very quickly and smartly. You might decide to come to the guy’s aid, call the cops, render first aid, or be a good witness. All are under my heading of good citizens.
I consider myself a pragmatist too, but only in matters requiring pragmatism. I hope to never go into battle side by side with a pragmatist. Some situations beg for action, not cold analysis. I dare say when someone’s health and safety is at risk, the situation begs for immediate action. Doing what is required is being a good citizen. Being a good witness in this situation is for the female species.
If every man in that lobby was a decent man, that attack could not have occurred and would not have been tolerated. Some situations require storming the cockpit, box cutters be damned.
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But realistically, your average street encounter isn’t a battle. you battle when you have to battle. And no matter how much we would like the world to be different, not everyone can or is cut out to fight.
I can fight and have training, but every situation is different. As I said, in mos times that I’m out I’m with my wife and or kids. their safety is not ever neglected for me to help another person. Because I’m already helping people, my wife and three kids. I get them to a safe place, that’s my job as a man , dad,and husband.
If I can help an innocent, I will. But I won’t risk my love one’s safety to do that.
But these things can be debated forever. And every one will play out differently. I said earlier in this thread that there were 3 times I almost had to draw a gun. I saw the situation early enough to be ready for a few different alternatives. And in each time it was best for me to handle it in one way.
- I went to a shopping mall and saw a buddy. He ignored me. H and a security guard had a scruffy looking guy between then them. I thought something was wrong, so I sat a mall bench at 90 degrees to the fellows, about ten yards away. they eventually talked the guy outside for the cops a few minutes later, after a heated discussion. It seems this fellow was threatening to go out to his car , get a shotgun, and shoot the place up.
What he didn’t realize was he was caught in a crossfire. Cops arrived, no trouble for any of us. But I was ready. My friend ad the security guard thanked me later. He told me that he blew me off in hopes that I figured something was going on.
Now your average person misses this stuff. As soon as this crazy broad went out for someone, sirens would have been going off in my head. Push said earlier that hustling that guy out of there might have been a good idea. but the more time you ahve, the better you can act and react.
I don’t disagree with anything you are saying per se. I would have quietly sent my wife and children to the car and do what needed to be done. I would not have stood by and allowed a man to be savagely beaten who was not putting up any defense. Period end of story no debate. If the 5 or so so called men there reacted in a similiar fashion, there is no attack.
You’re right, you can quarterback and debate this thing to death. There is no “right” answer - there is only a “right” response - a decent response to aid an innocent man, and that is to do SOMETHING.
And my final thoughts? That coward was fat and out of shape. He aint much a threat. He aint making it outside to get whatever he needed. He’d have been picking his chicklets off the floor when he woke up.
ANY SO CALLED MAN THAT LAYS HIS HANDS ON A WEAKER MAN WITHOUT JUSTIFIED PROVOCATION IS AN EFFING COWARD, A CUR DOG, A SNAPPING, SNARLING TOY POODLE BEHIND A FENCE.
This just happend in the UK, with a queue jump and some girl calling her boyfriend again
This guy died though…
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080612/tuk-man-remanded-over-supermarket-death-6323e80.html
[quote]Possumwee wrote:
This just happend in the UK, with a queue jump and some girl calling her boyfriend again
This guy died though…
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080612/tuk-man-remanded-over-supermarket-death-6323e80.html
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What the fuck is wrong with people?
I hope that idiot who killed the 57 year old gets viciously anally raped until his arse is bleeding profusely and hecomes the prisons “bitch”. It seems like people will go ape shit over the dumbest things nowadays. And someone needs to seriously bitchslap the hoe with a 4x4 wood block who called her boyfriend who didnt have the balls to confront the person in question who played skippy in line. Result… an innocent man dies as a result of someone else’s stupidity. Tragic and pathetic.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Possumwee wrote:
This just happend in the UK, with a queue jump and some girl calling her boyfriend again
This guy died though…
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080612/tuk-man-remanded-over-supermarket-death-6323e80.html
What the fuck is wrong with people?[/quote]
Tell me about it; just two months ago, two idiots at the Trump Taj poker room started arguing over a seat at a poker table. These are older men mind you. Long story short, they take it outside, one man is down and getting pummeled when he pulls a knife to stop the pummeling, slashing the top man’s artery killing him.
Over an effing seat. Oh, and security was the one to tell them to take it outside, allegedly.
[quote]FZane wrote:
I can’t believe the people in this thread justifying what the lady in camo did. She had a right to be mad? No, she didn’t. She cut in line and got called out on it. She is the type of bitch that causes shit and then sicks her criminal bf on people.
But please, go on making excuses for her. Claim that he called her a ni**er and attack the victim. That is about par for the course now days. Those two animals should be locked away until they are too old to hurt anybody.[/quote]
Who is defending her?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Possumwee wrote:
This just happend in the UK, with a queue jump and some girl calling her boyfriend again
This guy died though…
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080612/tuk-man-remanded-over-supermarket-death-6323e80.html
What the fuck is wrong with people?[/quote]
There is ton of videos of attacks on you tube and ComeGetYouSome.com. The absolute stupidity of some people cannot be believed.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
ANY SO CALLED MAN THAT LAYS HIS HANDS ON A WEAKER MAN WITHOUT JUSTIFIED PROVOCATION IS AN EFFING COWARD, A CUR DOG, A SNAPPING, SNARLING TOY POODLE BEHIND A FENCE.[/quote]
Exactly.