[quote]pushharder wrote:
Gerg wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Gerg wrote:
pushharder wrote:
catone wrote:
Makavali wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Then again if you watch the video (without the audio) you see a seemingly innocent person almost get their life taken from then and folks just standing around watching, bleating, staring in fear and rightfully so but what you got to understand is that in life and death situations sometimes somebody has go to do something. It’s that simple and yet it is still complicated, I admit.
Does “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing” mean anything to you “Safety First” People? Anything? Gallantry on a website named “Testosterone Nation” is antiquated?
When DO you step up to the plate? Do you change the batting order to reflect situations where only your friends’ and loved ones’ safety is at stake? Is that it? Are you that fuckin meticulous in your thought process in a time of duress?
Do you change your whole philosophy if you enter law enforcement or the military? Do you instantly become a different person there? Do you say, “Aw, Push, man, that’s a different deal there, buddy. I’ve GOT to be committed to my fellow man when I’m getting paid for it, dooooood.” Do you only become a do-gooder when you’re forced to or when all the planets are aligned just perfectly?
Sheesh. I aint preachin’ no more sermons here. The vaginal discharges here just smell too foul. You boyz keep on rationalizin’. You’ll work it out in your head somehow to keep your hair from getting messed up.
The video without the audio is not the reality. This was not a person picked out at random. He initiated the exchange, ignored the danger and allowed it to escalate. In may ways he played the part of the victim way before he was struck, but he was never helpless. Well, until he was hit…
Why did you so carefully edit my quote to exclude, “Look friend, if you think Cell Phone Guy mouthed off and cursed and disrespected the woman and had a beating coming and so you stood there and watched the train wreck happen, that’s one thing”?
Why?
I agree that the audio is an important part of the whole equation and could cast a whole new light on the discussion.
Because the majority of your post had to do with an innocent person getting assaulted, based on the idea that “if you listened with the audio off”. Then goes onto the question of “when do you step in?”.
So, if you choose not to intercede beacuse the guy “had it coming”, it’s okay because you made a choice to be indignant, but if you stand there doing nothing because you were frightened, “part of the herd”, etc. its not okay? Whats the difference in the end? You still did nothing. And sometimes, thats okay because the circumstances dictate it. Think of a person drowning. Do you jump in, or grab the rope and throw it to them? You throw the rope first because you might get dragged under too.
Lastly, the discussion is the situation in total: audio, visual, the actions of all involved, including the people who stood by and did nothing, the size of the room, the type of floor and the time of day, and the type of neiborhood. It all matters. Once you take a piece of this puzzle out, then the situation changes and the actions / reactions change as well as what the course of action may dictate.
No audio available to the version I watched but if it was available to you and you heard a reprehensible exchange of unpleasantries to the extent that you felt CPG needed an ass whipping then sure, debate it in that context.
I just saw what appeared to be an innocent person almost lose his life and so I was debating it in THAT context. Savvy?[/quote]
Sorry, If you mentoned that you didn’t hear the audio, then I didn’t catch it. I thought it was just looking at it from a diffrerent perspective.
See everyone. People can debate politely on T-Nation, without name calling or questioning one another’s manhood.
Pussy. 
People are always hurt lifting weights.