I’m guessing someone along the line suggested 5/3/1 Forever which will allow you to train 5/3/1 principles..well…forever.
Be wary of the apps as they don’t always follow Wendler’s programs/templates.
They also don’t, I believe, compensate Wendler for his intellectual property. This used to be a big discussion, and a valid point. I don’t know if it has changed.
A spread sheet is pretty simple - I keep mine on my phone.
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Well in all due respect… as much as i respect the guy. Its not like 5/3/1 is 100% original. Just saying it takes heavily from other sources .
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I don’t think anyone has 100% original work out there.
But the compilation and repackaging is what we pay for.
My butcher didn’t birth the cow, but I pay more for the meat for him to cut it up so I don’t have to.
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True enough… look at old Louie. He borrowed concept from different sources. One the obvious ones was his heavy use of box squatting he got from Peanut West of the orginal Westside gym.
When it comes to training concept or approaches its impossible to say copyright it.
“I didn’t invent toilet paper, but I’m smart enough to use it.”
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“You can get a good look at a butcher’s ass by sticking your head up there.”
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That is interessting. The more i read about the various training systems, the more it seems that all the science/magic/expertiese start were the progress comes to a stop. i read about people who got big and strong with Wendler, Rippetoe, Hepburn, you name it. Could it be that it doesnt matter how you grow, but only matters how you deal with the plateaus?
By the way, the first week of 5/3/1 5’s progress (4xweek split) is done. It felt strangely easy.
First week should feel easy. You should easily be able to run this for a good 16 to 20 weeks before things get heavy enough where you really feel the need to consider resetting.
Things you should really be paying attention to is eating to your current goal, getting enough good quality recovery, aka sleep, and fitting in some mobility on your off days or after your workouts to help keep your body ready for the next workout.
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Yeah, it should be easy in the beginning. Start too light is one of the 5/3/1 principles.
And if you’ve been training multiple big lifts per day, multiple days per week, switching to once a week frequency will feel Way different and “easier.” Take advantage of that by blasting the bar harder and trying more on assistance stuff.
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In my opinion, yes, I don’t think it really matters how you train. I’ve seen way to many gym lifters over the years who have said they were stalled, and when you ask them about what variables they may have changed, they don’t have a solid answer.
I think a lot of it is to do with trying to maintain peak strength. Its a hard mindset to get out of but its one that’s necessary, imo. especially for a sport like Powerlifting.
Sorry for hijacking that lol , I found the question interesting
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Just when you’re happily getting somewhere, you gotta stop that and find something else to build up.
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A lot of beginners’ or basic programs presume the lifter is really a beginner, so he doesn’t have the lifting form down, his recovery system isn’t at full capacity, etc. Starting light is really OK. If you follow the progression template and add weight to the bar on schedule. You’ll reach the point where you have to grind out that last rep, or take more rest between sets.
Which 531 are you doing? I tried 531 BBB and liked it for the most part. I went back to SS Beginners’ progression and found that my lifts improved faster. Maybe one significant factor is that you put more heart into the program you like.
I started with the 5’s progression program. Just a gut descision. We’ll see after the first cycles.
One thing i’d like to know more about. For you, who trained a lot of years, do you have the feeling/experience that the way of training changed the way you tackle every day lifes challenges? Does weight training impact the way you build your strategies in real life? As mind and body is the same, i presume that the steady, long term grind approach of weight lifting does have affects on the way of thinking. Whats your opinion?
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It is my mindfulness, if you will. As a teen lifting was probably a self-esteem project. Though self-esteem wasn’t a thing in 1980. I caught the Nautilus bug in 1981. I understand not everyone digs the old HIT/Nautilus approach, but through high school and college it was vogue.
Then I bought a Soloflex. I have used it on and off since. Almost exclusively now with back and hip issues. I have explained that before, no sense in rehashing.
I jogged for about a year once. Ended up with foot pain. I dropped 30 lbs. for a Caribbean trip riding an Airdyne. Resistance training is it.
Does it make me a better me? Do I strategize life decisions around strength training? I don’t know? Maybe now I am trying to age with as much strength as I can keep. I am not sure folks who spend time in the gym wax lyrical about their time there. Unlike runners who write books about their love of running. And good for them.
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Strength athletes tend to compete less than most other sports, so lack the compete/win/lose mind set.
Sports like racquet sports, football, rugby, golf etc are practised by people who compete on a regular basis.
Track athletics is all about competition.
A large proportion of road runners compete in some sort of road races
and so on.
Measuring your performance and progress (or not) is highly visible and arguably can create a mindset to transfer to other parts of life.
I also note the sadness amongst lifters whose numbers decline and have nowhere to go, other sports have Masters competitions, touch rugby and so on.
I am definately not anti lifting but for me it is to improve for other sports and health.
Not sure where you came up with that notion since most weight related sports have a masters class.
Crossfit
Weight lifting
Powerlifting
Strongman
Powerlifting
Bodybuilding
Highlander
Only variable being the age designation for each one.
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You compete against yourself every time you’re in the gym
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