How to Combat Anti-Climate Change Fools

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system

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[quote]bpick86 wrote: However, these scientists seem to forget
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EYE ROLL:)

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I think the climate change thing can be summed up into one thing. Control.
As a politicized issue, the left wants to use it as an excuse to exercise control over the masses. If, for instance, all the man-made climate heating were 100% true without prejudice, there is nothing we can do about it now. The proposed ‘solutions’ will do zero, nada, nothing to lower the Earth’s temperature. Nor would you want to be able to exert that much control over the climate.

That leaves only one reason for all the legislation, control. These legislation’s follow the exact opposite rule of the government established by the people, it limits, not maximizes freedom. And freedom is the real issue, here not global warming.

Nobody wants to live in a dirty place with air you cannot breath. These are not the things being proposed. It’s limitations on our freedom. Why should we be foreced to buy cars we don’t want, or pay more for air conditioning because some liberal dick sucker in Washington tells us it will cool the planet? What the fuck does he/ she/ shim/ it know?

The reality is that CO2 is one of the most common gasses expelled by things on the planet. Every living creature (note the exception of plants) exhales it to some degree. Methane, a far more intense green house gas is also emitted by living things. Then you have little events such as volcanic eruptions that throw many millions of tonnes of greenhouse gasses in a matter of minutes.

Then you have the little problem that CO2 is heavy, so getting it into the atmosphere and keeping it there is not as easy as the wind blowing.

Then you have the matter of the biggest polluting countries in the world, Iran, China, N. Korea, etc. could give a flying fuck what the temperature of the Earth is.

Then you have the matter that emissions by man-made objects being the single smoking gun in climate change phenomena is flat impossible to prove. Oh, they may believe it, but they can’t prove, out of all the factors in climate, that’s the one that has made the change and in absence of that fact, the change would not have happened. So what we are left with are “facts” riddled with hyperbole.

What we are left with is a minority of people trying to manipulate and control what the majority does. It’s about control and nothing more. If we all got rid of all our pollution creation devises, the earth would still warm. Why? Because it’s on a warming trend, regardless of what we do. Do you know what follows a warming trend? A cooling trend. Global warming alarmists would have us believe that it will just continue to warm exponentially without end. They clearly know nothing of how climate works.

Here’s a trivia question. If the entire wishlist of the global warming left were implemented, by how much would the Earth’s temperature change because of those actions? Zero is the right answer. How much will it change anyway? Probably another 5 degrees max before we start a cooling trend.
And when you get a blizzard in Florida, then you’ll wish you could warm the planet just a bit.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system
[/quote]

So a large comet or Asteroid could not change the climate from outside. We can not leave and go somewhere else. Also a large volcanic eruption which we are long over due for could decrease the temp rather quickly. How closed is the system?

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[quote]spiderman739 wrote:

[quote]JEATON wrote:

Whoops…[/quote]

After reading the article it seems to me that what they are saying is that the slowdown in temperature increases is a temporary thing and that, in the long term there wont be much of a difference with earlier predictions

Was waiting for some one to bring this out.
Think about it. By now, large portions of coast line were supposed to be underwater. World hunger because of droughts. The point of no return for ppm CO2 have been passed many times over without the predicted doom. I posted this article because each and every time Global Warming Doom and Gloom Cult are proven wrong they huddle back up and come up with a new theory of how current reality is really just a breif anomaly and the end of the world will be back on schedule shortly.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system
[/quote]

So a large comet or Asteroid could not change the climate from outside. We can not leave and go somewhere else. Also a large volcanic eruption which we are long over due for could decrease the temp rather quickly. How closed is the system?[/quote]

Or, there is this little thing called radiation.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

So, if I get this right, CO2 is rising rapidly in this closed system, right?

Therefore the oxygen levels must be dropping concomitantly.

Then why are we not suffering from a lack of oxygen, and there is nothing being said about what will happen when we run out of it?

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holy shit why don’t those scientists call Skyzz . They would work this shit qwik :slight_smile:
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Well, I think that “We are running out of oxygen and are going to suffocate” would get more cooperation than “The planet is warming up and we need to tax your carbon usage” wouldn’t it?

If both parts were true, that is.
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I don’t understand your point . Of course suffocating would get more attention than dealing with weather and water tables and the consequences

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[quote]espenl wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I still say this simple video is pretty good argument.

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This one sums up my views as well.[/quote]

This is perhaps the single most ridiculous video on the topic that I have ever seen.

Really, think it through. Now change the subject and keep the arguments the same.

This is the same idiotic nonsense the multi lever marketers and health scammers have used for years.

But while we are at it , i’d like to present you with the benefits of of high pH water consumption and the clear need to own a water ionizer…

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system
[/quote]

So a large comet or Asteroid could not change the climate from outside. We can not leave and go somewhere else. Also a large volcanic eruption which we are long over due for could decrease the temp rather quickly. How closed is the system?[/quote]

Or, there is this little thing called radiation.[/quote]

I stand corrected , but the Sun is the only variable to be a closed system and that is part of another system

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system
[/quote]

So a large comet or Asteroid could not change the climate from outside. We can not leave and go somewhere else. Also a large volcanic eruption which we are long over due for could decrease the temp rather quickly. How closed is the system?[/quote]

Or, there is this little thing called radiation.[/quote]

I stand corrected , but the Sun is the only variable to be a closed system and that is part of another system
[/quote]

The sun is not a closed system

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system
[/quote]

So a large comet or Asteroid could not change the climate from outside. We can not leave and go somewhere else. Also a large volcanic eruption which we are long over due for could decrease the temp rather quickly. How closed is the system?[/quote]

Or, there is this little thing called radiation.[/quote]

I stand corrected , but the Sun is the only variable to be a closed system and that is part of another system
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The sun is not a closed system [/quote]

I think that the sun only supplies light and radiation it could be considered part of other systems but it may not be a system in it’s self . It is by all means part of our solar system it is i am sure part of the milky way but the sun by it’s self is that (the sun)

I would say the way the sun works would be a system the definition of system

A set of connected things or parts forming a complex whole, in particular.
A set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network.

I think it is part of other systems

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system
[/quote]

So a large comet or Asteroid could not change the climate from outside. We can not leave and go somewhere else. Also a large volcanic eruption which we are long over due for could decrease the temp rather quickly. How closed is the system?[/quote]

Or, there is this little thing called radiation.[/quote]

I stand corrected , but the Sun is the only variable to be a closed system and that is part of another system
[/quote]

The sun is not a closed system [/quote]

Didn’t the Voyager Probe leave the Solar System recently headed into intersteller space?

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system
[/quote]

So a large comet or Asteroid could not change the climate from outside. We can not leave and go somewhere else. Also a large volcanic eruption which we are long over due for could decrease the temp rather quickly. How closed is the system?[/quote]

Or, there is this little thing called radiation.[/quote]

I stand corrected , but the Sun is the only variable to be a closed system and that is part of another system
[/quote]

The sun is not a closed system [/quote]

Didn’t the Voyager Probe leave the Solar System recently headed into intersteller space?[/quote]

Correct, they are still communicating with it. I think that’s super cool.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Easy solution to all those that Do Not believe that we are a large part of the increased climate change:

Take them out into their Escalades, Navigators, Hummers and Land Rovers. Lock them in so they cannot get out, turn on the engine and

then “Stick a Banana in their TailPipe” and see how long they last before a slow death takes them to whatever heaven they believe in.

People seem to forget that this little sphere we live on is a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM ! There will be no place to hide when it all comes

crashing down…[/quote]

Earth isn’t a closed system.

Not that I think climate change is bunk, but seriously - Earth is not a closed system.[/quote]

how do you figure ? You can not get anything that is not here already ? Life would be the only thing that could effect the system
[/quote]

So a large comet or Asteroid could not change the climate from outside. We can not leave and go somewhere else. Also a large volcanic eruption which we are long over due for could decrease the temp rather quickly. How closed is the system?[/quote]

Or, there is this little thing called radiation.[/quote]

I stand corrected , but the Sun is the only variable to be a closed system and that is part of another system
[/quote]

The sun is not a closed system [/quote]

I think that the sun only supplies light and radiation it could be considered part of other systems but it may not be a system in it’s self . It is by all means part of our solar system it is i am sure part of the milky way but the sun by it’s self is that (the sun)

I would say the way the sun works would be a system the definition of system

A set of connected things or parts forming a complex whole, in particular.
A set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network.

I think it is part of other systems
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No. You also have radiation from other sources, the universe is full of it.

You also have radiation from the earth to outer space.

You also have other things like the effects of gravity that prevent it from being closed.

When discussing earth temperature, the MOST important part of the equation, mainly energy entering and leaving the system, are outside of the earth.

It’s really more or less the opposite of closed.

If it were actually closed, barring some mass conversion, the earth temperature would be entirely determined.

The whole point of CO2 is that it effects the radiative process. Making the earth a closed system invalidates anthropomorphic warming.

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[quote]JEATON wrote:

[quote]espenl wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
I still say this simple video is pretty good argument.

[/quote]
This one sums up my views as well.[/quote]

This is perhaps the single most ridiculous video on the topic that I have ever seen.

Really, think it through. Now change the subject and keep the arguments the same.

This is the same idiotic nonsense the multi lever marketers and health scammers have used for years.

But while we are at it , i’d like to present you with the benefits of of high pH water consumption and the clear need to own a water ionizer…[/quote]

The lower left would still have the global depression, even if AGW is real it doesn’t change the economic effects of the measures we’d take. And by all accounts, that action wouldn’t change the temperature trends according to the amounts CO2 would be reduced. Meaning, the lower left should have global depression and all the crisis stuff.

He’s make vast, sweeping, unsupported assumptions that are full of crap.

You also need to note that global depression mean millions of people starving to death.

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While I agree warmth is a major issue it is not the only major issue . With out light photosynthesis would not happen, I think the point of whether the Earth’s system is opened or closed is to ambiguous

As for as the CO2 and radiation’s effects on ( Anthromorphi ???) warming ( Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena.) I don’t understand :slight_smile:

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The video assumes that taxing and regulating (read punishing and violating basic personal freedoms) is going to make nature change its course.

In other words, the dillhole on the video, and all who find agreement with him think government can save the world.

The best the enviro-whacko big-government progressives can hope for in their “column” is the worst two scenarios.

Just once, I’d like for a pro-AGW progressive to produce any substantial proof - that AGW exists. So far, the best they have is a bunch of lies, and number fudging from EAU’s CRU, computer models that make TV weathermen look like Kreskin, oh, and AlGore’s book.

While the bespectacled gentleman’s argument is rife with highly flawed assumptions, it is far more sound than any proof for AGW.

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[quote]drunkpig wrote:
The video assumes that taxing and regulating (read punishing and violating basic personal freedoms) is going to make nature change its course.

In other words, the dillhole on the video, and all who find agreement with him think government can save the world.

The best the enviro-whacko big-government progressives can hope for in their “column” is the worst two scenarios.

Just once, I’d like for a pro-AGW progressive to produce any substantial proof - that AGW exists. So far, the best they have is a bunch of lies, and number fudging from EAU’s CRU, computer models that make TV weathermen look like Kreskin, oh, and AlGore’s book.

While the bespectacled gentleman’s argument is rife with highly flawed assumptions, it is far more sound than any proof for AGW.

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How the fuck do you read with out me translating every word for you:)?