Global Warming 'Theory' Debunked

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For any non-scientist interested in the climate debate, there is nothing better than a ready primer to guide you through the complexities of atmospheric physics â?? the â??hardestâ?? science of climatology. Here we outline the essential points made by Dr. Gerhard Gerlich, a respected German physicist, that counter the bogus theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW).

Before going further, itâ??s worth bearing in mind that no climatologist ever completed any university course in climatologyâ??thatâ??s how new this branch of science really is. Like any new science the fall-back position of a cornered AGW proponent is the dreaded â??appeal to authorityâ?? where the flustered debater, out of his or her depth, will say, â??Well, professor so-and-so says itâ??s true â?? so it must be true.â?? Donâ??t fall for that proxy tree-ring counterâ??s gambit any longer. Here is the finest shredding of junk science you will ever read.

In a recently revised and re-published paper, Dr Gerlich debunks AGW and shows that the IPCC â??consensusâ?? atmospheric physics model tying CO2 to global warming is not only unverifiable, but actually violates basic laws of physics, i.e. the First and Second Law of Thermodynamics. The latest version of this momentous scientific paper appears in the March 2009 edition of the International Journal of Modern Physics.

The central claims of Dr. Gerlich and his colleague, Dr. Ralf Tscheuschner, include, but are not limited to:

  1. The mechanism of warming in an actual greenhouse is different than the mechanism of warming in the atmosphere, therefore it is not a â??greenhouseâ?? effect and should be called something else.

  2. The climate models that predict catastrophic global warming also result in a net heat flow from atmospheric greenhouse gasses to the warmer ground, which is in violation of the second law of thermodynamics.

Essentially, any machine which transfers heat from a low temperature reservoir to a high temperature reservoir without external work applied cannot exist. If it did it would be a â??perpetual motion machineâ?? â?? the realm of pure sci-fi.

Gerlichâ??s and Tscheuschnerâ??s independent theoretical study is detailed in a lengthy (115 pages), mathematically complex (144 equations, 13 data tables, and 32 figures or graphs), and well-sourced (205 references) paper. The German physicists prove that even if CO2 concentrations double (a prospect even global warming advocates admit is decades away), the thermal conductivity of air would not change more than 0.03%. They show that the classic concept of the glass greenhouse wholly fails to replicate the physics of Earthâ??s climate. They also prove that a greenhouse operates as a â??closedâ?? system while the planet works as an â??openâ?? system and the term â??atmospheric greenhouse effectâ?? does not occur in any fundamental work involving thermodynamics, physical kinetics, or radiation theory. All through their paper the German scientists show how the greenhouse gas theory relies on guesstimates about the scientific properties involved to â??calculateâ?? the chaotic interplay of such a myriad and unquantifiable array of factors that is beyond even the abilities of the most powerful of modern supercomputers.

The paperâ??s introduction states it neatly:

(a) there are no common physical laws between the warming phenomenon in glass houses and the fictitious atmospheric greenhouse effects, (b) there are no calculations to determine an average surface temperature of a planet, (c) the frequently mentioned difference of 33 degrees Celsius is a meaningless number calculated wrongly, (d) the formulas of cavity radiation are used inappropriately, (e) the assumption of a radiative balance is unphysical, (f) thermal conductivity and friction must not be set to zero, the atmospheric greenhouse conjecture is falsified.

This thorough debunking of the theory of man made warming disproves that there exists a mechanism whereby carbon dioxide in the cooler upper atmosphere exerts any thermal â??forcingâ?? effect on the warmer surface below. To do so would violate both the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics. As there is no glass roof on the earth to trap the excess heat, it escapes upward into space.Thus we may conclude that the common sense axioms are preserved so that the deeper the ocean, the colder the water and heat rises, it does not fall. QED.

[quote]John S. wrote:
All through their paper the German scientists show how the greenhouse gas theory relies on guesstimates about the scientific properties involved to â??calculateâ?? the chaotic interplay of such a myriad and unquantifiable array of factors that is beyond even the abilities of the most powerful of modern supercomputers.

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^^^^ This shit right here. Every time I get into a debate with some AGW people, they fail to even address my main point, which is that we do NOT have the capability to accurately determine causation of any warming that may (arguably) be occurring. Not only that, we certainly don’t have the ability to make accurate predictions of climate. One step further, the idea that we can CONTROL the climate is absolutely laughable.

Now, wait for the “But, all the scientists agree” strawman argument. Here it comes… Wait for it…

There is absolutely no violation of the first or second laws of thermodynamics. You’re full of shit.

The greenhouse effect is real, otherwise the planet would be too cold to support life. To debunk AGW, explain how it (the greenhouse effect) stops working at a convenient level.

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
There is absolutely no violation of the first or second laws of thermodynamics. You’re full of shit.

The greenhouse effect is real, otherwise the planet would be too cold to support life. To debunk AGW, explain how it (the greenhouse effect) stops working at a convenient level.[/quote]

I can only imagine how stupid you must feel right now, knowing that you and people who think like you are about to be shown to be nothing but a bunch of retards.

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
There is absolutely no violation of the first or second laws of thermodynamics. [/quote]

Because Ryan P. McCarter says so!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
There is absolutely no violation of the first or second laws of thermodynamics. You’re full of shit.

The greenhouse effect is real![/quote]

HA! Take THAT you stupid physicists!

The score:

Ryan P. McCarter = 1
International Journal of Modern Physics, Dr. Gerlich, and Dr. Ralf Tscheuschner = 0

You go, Girl!

…let’s refute that paper shall we?

PDF!!!

why dont we have this argument in 100years?

[quote]caveman101 wrote:
why dont we have this argument in 100years?[/quote]

Because you’ll still be stuck in the 18th century with a rusty sword!

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]caveman101 wrote:
why dont we have this argument in 100years?[/quote]

Because you’ll still be stuck in the 18th century with a rusty sword![/quote]

Pot, kettle.

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
There is absolutely no violation of the first or second laws of thermodynamics. You’re full of shit.

The greenhouse effect is real, otherwise the planet would be too cold to support life. To debunk AGW, explain how it (the greenhouse effect) stops working at a convenient level.[/quote]

I can only imagine how stupid you must feel right now, knowing that you and people who think like you are about to be shown to be nothing but a bunch of retards.[/quote]

So for the record, you don’t know. Got it.

[quote]reddog6376 wrote:

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
There is absolutely no violation of the first or second laws of thermodynamics. [/quote]

Because Ryan P. McCarter says so![/quote]

You seem like you were fully prepared to accept the contrary assertion just because this article said so. Maybe learn a little bit about the first and second laws and you’ll see how ridiculous this sounds.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
There is absolutely no violation of the first or second laws of thermodynamics. You’re full of shit.

The greenhouse effect is real![/quote]

HA! Take THAT you stupid physicists!

The score:

Ryan P. McCarter = 1
International Journal of Modern Physics, Dr. Gerlich, and Dr. Ralf Tscheuschner = 0

You go, Girl![/quote]

Ignoring the fact that studies are tampered with an all sides of any issue you care to examine extremely frequently, if the International Journal of Modern Physics told you that the earth is flat, would you believe them? That’s what it amounts to.

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
There is absolutely no violation of the first or second laws of thermodynamics. You’re full of shit.

The greenhouse effect is real, otherwise the planet would be too cold to support life. To debunk AGW, explain how it (the greenhouse effect) stops working at a convenient level.[/quote]

I can only imagine how stupid you must feel right now, knowing that you and people who think like you are about to be shown to be nothing but a bunch of retards.[/quote]

So for the record, you don’t know. Got it.
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The entropy of an isolated system consisting of two regions of space, isolated from one another, each in thermodynamic equilibrium in itself, but not in equilibrium with each other, will, when the isolation that separates the two regions is broken, so that the two regions become able to exchange matter or energy, tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value when the jointly communicating system reaches thermodynamic equilibrium.

so in other terms, heat can spontaneously flow from a higher-temperature region to a lower-temperature region, but not the other way around.

Really, a simple search in google and its amazing what you can learn. Next time you wish to learn something, instead of coming on here and getting embarrassed just take 2 minutes out of your day and research it a bit.

[quote]John S. wrote:The entropy of an isolated system consisting of two regions of space, isolated from one another, each in thermodynamic equilibrium in itself, but not in equilibrium with each other, will, when the isolation that separates the two regions is broken, so that the two regions become able to exchange matter or energy, tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value when the jointly communicating system reaches thermodynamic equilibrium.

so in other terms, heat can spontaneously flow from a higher-temperature region to a lower-temperature region, but not the other way around.

Really, a simple search in google and its amazing what you can learn. Next time you wish to learn something, instead of coming on here and getting embarrassed just take 2 minutes out of your day and research it a bit. [/quote]

Well, I’m very happy you’ve learned a bit of basic thermal physics, but I don’t see where you’re going with it. You’re still ignoring the question.

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:The entropy of an isolated system consisting of two regions of space, isolated from one another, each in thermodynamic equilibrium in itself, but not in equilibrium with each other, will, when the isolation that separates the two regions is broken, so that the two regions become able to exchange matter or energy, tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value when the jointly communicating system reaches thermodynamic equilibrium.

so in other terms, heat can spontaneously flow from a higher-temperature region to a lower-temperature region, but not the other way around.

Really, a simple search in google and its amazing what you can learn. Next time you wish to learn something, instead of coming on here and getting embarrassed just take 2 minutes out of your day and research it a bit. [/quote]

Well, I’m very happy you’ve learned a bit of basic thermal physics, but I don’t see where you’re going with it. You’re still ignoring the question.
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I gave you all the facts, why don’t you use your supposed superior intellect and put 2 and 2 together.

But they’re facts that are not relevant. Citing a Google search to tell me that heat flows from a warm source to a cool source is purely an attempt to BS your way through an answer without actually saying anything. To disprove AGW, explain how the greenhouse effect keeps us warm and comfy, yet magically stops before it gets too warm.

And really, “supposed superior intellect?” Who said that? It doesn’t take a superior intellect to see through your crap.

Like with religion i find that the people who Grovel at God and are blind to Everything are in the same boat as the people who spend a lifetime to Disprove God’s Existence. Both Extreme fringe persons and incorrect in all likely hood. Ryan P. falls in one of these two categories.

There is no science good enough to conclusively prove anything in any direction. For every proof by one side the other side has the antidote. lol.

Let the fools argue and saddle themselves with taxes and financial hardships. But don’t tread on me.

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Ignoring the fact that studies are tampered with an all sides of any issue you care to examine extremely frequently, if the International Journal of Modern Physics told you that the earth is flat, would you believe them? That’s what it amounts to.
[/quote]

Of course, I was being silly. I actually agree with you on this.

Scientific journals are full of articles where authors (read: competing factions) review, refute, question, or otherwise tear apart each others’ studies.

However, we hear time and time again that “Pro-AGW” scientific studies are published in peer reviewed journals, so it MUST be good science, it MUST be conclusive, it MUST be true!

The fact is, nothing in the AGW is conclusive, and nothing is proven. There are enough gaps, contradictions, questionable methods, questionable data, and questionable assumptions in the science of “AGW” that for any governing body to start legislating restrictions, penalties, and taxes is fundamentally absurd.

If the studies only ‘suggest’ that “AGW” is real, then maybe governments should only go so far as to just ‘suggest’ that its citizens (or subjects as the case may be) behave in a more ‘Global Cooling’ manner, not legislate it.

My industry (Energy Sector IT) is profiting tremendously on energy mandates because of money governments like Spain are pouring into the mandates. However, I can tell you right now that companies in other sectors are losing money and jobs over green and alternative energy (and governments are just taxing/spending more). But, the technology isn’t becoming more profitable.

Governments are penalizing citizens and companies more via restrictions and taxes so more money is being poured into forcing the issue instead of a more natural and organic growth of the industry.

It’s an illusion. Hell, even Toyota has admitted after all these years, it’s still losing money on the Prius.

[quote]Gregus wrote:
Like with religion i find that the people who Grovel at God and are blind to Everything are in the same boat as the people who spend a lifetime to Disprove God’s Existence. Both Extreme fringe persons and incorrect in all likely hood. Ryan P. falls in one of these two categories.

There is no science good enough to conclusively prove anything in any direction. For every proof by one side the other side has the antidote. lol. [/quote]

No, that is not true. There are many things we know very well and for which there is no “other side” but error. For example we know very well how objects fall under gravity, and so if some fool has a theory in which an unsupported, denser-than-air object in Earth’s gravity supposedly is going to float upwards, he is wrong.

Thermodynamics is also one of those things for which there is no “other side” except error.