Your current body fat % is not conducive to muscle gain. Bulk is not a good choice. High BF % creates a more catabolic/insulin resistant environment. You need to cut down to at least 12% body fat slowly and safely, ~500 calories below maintenance daily. Like others have said losing 1-2 lbs a week is ideal. Yes it will be slow and steady and yes you will still be skinny after, but then your body will be primed for growth. With proper diet then (slight surplus) and heavy/compound lifting you can start to build a solid foundation. And yes of course you need to be lifting all through your cut.
I still recommend cutting and cutting hard.
Yes, you will end up skinny, but I couldn’t live a single day of my life with a midsection like that.
I am a little more vain than most, I know, but seriously I couldn’t deal with having a stomach like that.
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Damn…thats kind of harsh. That kind of language upsets my delicate sensibility.
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You’re obese now. Skinnyfat is just fat without the muscle. Eating at maintenance with a proper diet shouldn’t skyrocket your BF%. There are obviously different opinions here, and mine is no more valid than anyone else’s (it may even be less valid), so if you’re obsessed with your caloric deficit, make it a slight one, but nothing will matter if you’re eating like crap and not lifting properly.
Ok, thanks.
So i shouldn’t go higher then a 500 kcals deficit then? I was thinking maybe doing a 300 kcals deficit, which in my case would be 2300 kcals daily.
I have been around 600 kcals deficit for a while now, and have gained very little musclemass. So fukkin shit.
What is cutting hard? Is it like a 1000 kcals deficit?
Me? Obese? My weight is totally normal, so is my body, but I lack of muscle. Just some few lbs of muscle will change my body completely.
But the advices in the thread are so fukkin different. U are saying to eat at maintance, while the guy above u sais to cut hard.
That is because it all works; it just takes time.
Pick A plan and stick to it.
Flip a coin, they will both work
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https://medlineplus.gov/obesity.html
“Obesity means having too much body fat. It is different from being overweight, which means weighing too much.”
You have virtually no muscle, and a bunch of fat. Get weight out of your head. BMI is a terrible indicator of health. I’m 6’4, 225-230 and that supposedly makes me overweight, but I’m in great shape with a low body fat and a six pack (when I wake up, at least). Donald Trump and Tim Tebow weigh the same at the same height.
Not to mention, if your body was “normal” you wouldn’t have posted a picture asking for help. It’s okay to need help and you have to understand that there are multiple ways to achieve fitness. Fasting, high protein, Keto. Bodybuilding, powerlifting, HIT. Either way you look at it, to be healthy you need to change your diet and lift. Also, despite the multitude of opinions, you’re ignoring most of the advice. I’m sorry that this isn’t black and white, but you should be encouraged - multiple approaches to fitness means you can and should choose the one that suits you best!
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But if i have a bunch of fat, why eat at maintance then? The chance to add even more fat is higher compared to if i do a deficit. But again, the chance of adding musle is alot higher at a maintance, compared to a hard cut.
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Because I think with a clean diet you’ll do more of a recomposition than a bulk.
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You just laid out the pros and cons of each method, which is what everyone in this thread has been explaining to you from the beginning.
I think you just want fast results. I don’t believe in fast results. That’s not to say that there aren’t great benefits from fastING, just that the body you want will only come from a long period of work and a big lifestyle change. I have no more advice to give to you, you got some great advice in here from people who know more than I do as well. Best of luck with your journey to jackedness.
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Good grief
- Lift weights 3-4 days a week
- Eat whole foods, fruits, and lots of vegetables.
- Repeat for a year
You will look totally different.
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This seems to be where virtually all bulk-or-cut / “skinny fat” threads end up. Spend less time worrying about the exact amount of calories; you are clearly in the “lift 3-4 days per week and eat mostly meat and vegetables for awhile, then dial in based on results after 3-6 months” portion of the spectrum.
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Ya, it’s the whole crawl ->walk-> run thing. OP, you need to learn how to effectively lift weights to build muscle. Then worry about the nuances.
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Thanks anyways, appreciate ur help. WIll go for it, and eat more.
I am doing all that bro.
But would u do a hardcut, or like flappinit said, eat at maintance, and change my body-composition, in my position?
