Did I wrong you in a previous life? Y U Do This To ME???
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I’mma let @ActivitiesGuy or @EyeDentist handle this one. My head’s about to explode 3 sentences in.
Fasting cures HIV, no words.
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My weight is completely normal, and i feel really skinny, with clothes on. But when the clothes are off, the body looks so untrained, because of lack of musclemasss.
My goal is to be skinny/slim like now, but with alot less fat, and more defined body(bigger chest/bigger arms).
I am not fat, which also my weight indicate. I have weighted alot less before, and my body was completely the same as it is now.
Low musclemass = automaticly higher bodyfatpercentage
This is me at 174 lbs, and the fat is still here.
I tried fasting once and all I got was a migraine. 0/10 would never fast again.
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I don’t usually give training advice. I typically prefer to let others who have achieved more provide the advice.
That said, your case is really not that complicated. You could cut like @Yogi1 suggested. He’s a smart guy (a giant twat with a terrible fashion sense, but smart none the less), but I don’t think that’s necessary.
You’re just such a fucking beginner. I don’t mean that in a bad way, it just looks like you’ve never done a single physical thing in your life.
I would do three things if I were in your shoes:
- Lift: Either full-body 3 days a week or a well know effective 4-day split. Nothing more.
- Pick a sport and play it 2-3 times a week. Basketball, softball, golf, whatever. Just something active. Or ruck 2-3 times a week if sports aren’t your thing. 20lbs pack at most.
- Eat nutritionally dense whole foods and eat about 1g of protein per pound of body weight So like 170g-180g. It doesn’t need to be precise right now. You don’t need to concern yourself with maximizing DaGainz right now.
Do those things for 6 months - year and your physique will be completely different. You could probably just do 1 & 3 if you don’t have the time or drive to play a sport. I think that helps, though (@T3hPwnisher often recommends playing a sport at this level and I completely agree with).
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Fasting does have some benefits.
That said, most of what seaheck wrote is complete bullshit that indicates a lack of understanding of basic human physiology with the heavy dose of anti-FDA and Big Pharma tossed in that suggests he read it off his favorite alternative-medicine or chiropractor’s website.
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Ya, I think you and I pretty much agree on the, we’ll call it holistic, approach to health. I’ve fasted before and I actually intend on adding two days of fasting in for the remainder of the transformation challenge.
But cures HIV… Ya, through this mechanism called death…
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So they weren’t meant to eat…?
Heard of Africa…?
I appreciate the shout out, but I’ve already given up on this topic. This guy is clearly looking for someone to give him the answer he wants to hear, because everytime he gets the advice that will actually fix his problem, he just asks if he should hard cut or not.
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That seems to be the trend in this sub-forum, unfortunately.
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“it just looks like you’ve never done a single physical thing in your life” LOL yes, a 100x yes. Definitely needs a complex approach & diet to fix a life of complete apathy.
Always amazed how people going from shit to suck seem to think they need anything more than just some basic nutrition and hard work.
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Guys, please stay on-topic.
Appreciate it.
Thanks.
I have actually played soccer for 10-15 years, but my body has always been like this. Skinnyfat.
Anyways, the plan now is to lift like before, a u/l-program, because bro-splits are so fukkin bad. But would u, in my sits, increase the calories? I have been on 1800 kcals lately, increase to 2300 maybe?
Not really. They worked for decades.
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You still play soccer now? How often?
I don’t know what a u/l program is. Bro-splits are fine. TBT is fine. 5/3/1 is fine. So on and so forth. My personal preference for a beginner program is westside 4 skinny bastards (ws4sb).
Idk, man. My opinion, you’re gonna have to figure that out on your own. I personally wouldn’t eat just 1,800 calories unless I had a really good reason to especially if I was playing soccer and lifting at the same time.
None of us can really tell you nay or ya on those calories. You haven’t given enough information. We don’t really know how active you are, how consistently you lift, what you actually eat, etc…
*Fucking acronyms… You just mean an upper/lower split? That’s fine too.
What did I just read?
OH GOD MY EYES! MY EYES!!! ARHHH! ARRRGGGGGHHHH!!!
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If u have lifted for years, yes.
In a u/l-split u train ur musclegroups 2 times a week, on a bro-split, 1 time a week.
No. For beginners too.
If you arrange the split really silly, yeah.
Your “chest day” will most likely include some benching, which ALSO hits your shoulders and triceps, and then on your shoulder day you’re hitting your shoulders AGAIN along with your triceps, assuming you do some manner of overhead pressing.
Yeah, if all you do is machine isolation work, you MIGHT be able to find a way to make a bodypart split not hit muscle groups frequently, but at that point you would have to intentionally be trying to train poorly.
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This is rubbish. You need to choose your sources of info carefully. That nitwit raving about fasting is but an extreme version of a lot of zealots you will find online. The latter are usually not to blame at first because they walked into this blind and are only parroting what they have read others write in Internetland. But then they get sucked too deep into the dogma and all this becomes a religion to them such that they won’t listen to others who have accomplished much more than them even though they have not seen much success with their own methods. And they’re always ready to recruit more members into their little cult.