[quote]marshaldteach wrote:
not really, i don’t care whether i’m praised or not.
if you want to trash talk me or whatever… are you really 5’8 175 after 5 years, and bench only at 300?
and lol recommending SS at all to anyone, for any period of time. It’s like, do this shit, half assed, garbage routine that sucks for bodybuilding… then after wasting years on it get on a real bodybuilding routine
yeah, intelligent
and yeah 400g protein was a bit of a joke, 200-300 would be decent for a beginner
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Ok, so we agree, 400 is excessive. Cool.
200-300 is quite a range, but most anyone eating at my 1.25g/lb bw figure will fall in there. We agree again. Cool.
As far as Starting Strength goes:
This guy will tell you that he got his squat up into the 400’s for reps with the beginner’s program and then to where it is in the video with the intermediate program.
Any program sucks if it’s done half-assed. I wasn giving advice to people who are willing to put in the work, no those who do things half assed. If I were in that business, I would have saved my time and just told them to go home.
I also specifically stated that a linear progression program should be used for 3-6 months initially to max out linear strength gains and nail form down quickly, then transition to a more reasonably periodized program like 531 or Juggernaut, both of which are easy to adapt to bodybuilding-style assistance work (remember, the kid in the example wants to be big and strong and somewhat lean- nothing mentioned about being a bodybuilder or aesthetics or any of that- big, strong, lean.). Hell, I even mentioned in my original post “incorporate more assistance work in order to build more muscle and improve work capacity”.
Hmmm. Seems to me you’re here to argue more than anything else, as you’re arguing against points I never made. We call that “trolling”.
As for the ad hominemn, I’ve close gripped 325 for reps before at a heavier bodyweight, squatted 600 lbs in a suit, and made a 500 lb equipped bench in training. I’ve also run an electronically timed 4.7 40 as an unathletic white kid who decided he wanted to run a decent 40 one day after having never run before in his life. I’ve also coached 2 elite raw powerlifters essentially from the ground up to their elite totals and prepped my fiance for her first physique competition, in which she took overall. I’ve destroyed both of my knees and torn muscles in my upper back that make sneezing painful. I’ve done a lot of things, and a good 2 years of my time training were spent caring very little for how big or strong I was, still managing when I decided to get back to training for a meet to high bar squat 2x bw for 10 reps (belt only) and bench 1.5x bw for 8. However, my varied goals and progress towards them is irrelevant to this thread.
