How Quick for E2 to Come Down Naturally?

Maybe there is an equivalent study available done in humans.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ijir201321

Every single study I have demonstrates the benefits of estrogen. I’ve linked to several here many times and it has never made a shred of difference.

There is a reason some men report feeling better on an AI. I’ve discussed this at length and also have several videos on the subject. It doesn’t mean that blocking their estrogen is good for them.

Every doc that comes on… I ask them their views on estrogen and they say the same. No evidence of estrogen causing harm at any levels. They don’t even prescribe an AI anymore. None of them do. I’ve had almost 20 interviews with docs and they all have that one thing in common.

All those wonderful benefits you guys are liking for on TRT come from ESTROGEN!

I have spent dozens of hours filming and probably hundreds of hours here providing everything I had. What difference has it made? The same bro science BS being regurgitated over and over by the same guys.

Everyone is getting this figured out except you guys.

I’ll post links to studies providing benefits AGAIN. In the meantime you can provide studies demonstrating harm (good luck with that)

Hey look at what someone just sent me. What a coincidence. Yet ANOTHER video with more research about estrogen in men (he’s probably full of shit too, right?)

Relax, I am not saying it causes harm. I am saying I don’t know and I am interested to read the studies.

@johann77 it wasn’t directed at you

No one is saying e2 is bad or doubting its benefits. But when there is insufficient free t and dht to balance that estrogen, estrogen dominant symptons appear. Its that simple. You can’t argue that. I agree with you when you say e2 number doesnt matter but it does need to be in balance with free t and dht.

You are an extreme outlier. You’ve been told this several times. Your experience does not compute to 99.7% of people. Most people do not notice minor variations like you do. And that’s giving you benefit of the doubt that you do not have a health anxiety disorder. To be as focused on symptoms as you are, with the very specific dosing needs (45mg of vitamin c, i mean come on) I think you may have one.

@dbossa I said the same as you that he’s dangerous in another post. Others have also recommended he stop giving advice. So if you get banned so should several others. I believe him to be dangerous as he gives advice without always fully grasping situations, anatomy, etc. He’s giving advice affecting people’s health when his is… lets say below optimal.

@dbossa usually says ā€œthe doctors i have spoken toā€ when giving advice. I knew he was not a medical professional immediately. I thought systemlord was a doctor for a while cause he often says he’s seen this or that because he doesnt qualify that it was on the internet. That adds to the danger IMHO.

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What have I started lol!

By the way Danny, I watch your videos and really like your content and what you have to say.

For me personally I would just like both my TT and E2 to be lower as they are both quite high and my Doctor here in the UK will most likely prescribe me an AI which I do not want to take.

Again, FREE T MUST BE OPTIMIZED.

I’ve said this 500 times by now.

If your T levels low it is called ANDROGEN INSUFFICIENCY

The people here call it estrogen dominance because you’re focusing on the wrong thing.

Get free T levels up and estrogen is IRRELEVANT

As long as you continue to focus on estrogen you will never get dialed in. Never ever ever.

If you watch the videos what do the doctors say? Forget about total T and E2 yet those are the two things you are concerned about. Those are the two things I have zero interest in. When I do labs all I want to see is my free T (along with all the obvious CBC, etc.)

Unfortunately where I am in the UK, we have a very behind system compared to USA and Canada and I rely on prescription for treatment and I have to follow Doctors and their guidelines, also unfortunately I cannot shop around for another Doctor as the UK is not like that and im already private, they would more than likely say my levels are too high and I must take an AI or I might lose my treatment.

Listen I do not disagree with you and I think your info is great and its very thought provoking and from my experience I would agree with you that if you have no symptoms then E2 is not to be concerned about.

For me I have to take lots of things into consideration and do what is best for me in my situation and the constraints in the health service where I live.

May I ask who you are using in the UK?

Lol youre understanding for biology is very basic its quite embarressing.

Perhaps he knows how to spell ā€œyourā€ and ā€œembarrassingā€, though.

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This aint a spelling quiz squirt.

Honestly I think this entire E2 discussion can only be solved by one way:

Everybody posts penis size and the owner of the longest wins.

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Erection dual it is.

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Longest or widest? Perhaps the sum of the two?

We can take volumen to make it a bit more complicated and stay scientific

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ā€œYou’reā€ and ā€œit’sā€

If you’re going to insult someone’s intelligence without a basic understanding of elementary grammar, your insult will backfire.

Please do show me the light as to where I’m going wrong with my understanding of biology. Looking forward to this one.

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I’m with a company called Optimale in the UK, they have been fantastic and absolutely brilliant with me.

You should see what the NHS is like here in the UK, I was with the health service before going private and it was awful.

Have you heard of the company?