[quote]K-Man32 wrote:
Yeah, I’ve had some weeks where i’ll gain a solid 5-8lbs then go months without a budge.
Your body will grow when it needs too, create that need with progressively heavier weights and high intensity.
Plus food.[/quote]
This is why they don’t believe it when I say I gained 20lbs in a couple of months as a newb. They are arguing what some personal trainer wrote somewhere about the limit they can gain.
Can you gain 5lbs of solid muscle in a week?
YES. This is not impossible. It will likely NOT happen continually, but the belief that it is impossible is why there are so few bigger people walking around lately.
I mean, honestly, you would have to think every guy on here talking about bulking up just gained body fat to believe some of this shit.[/quote]
Lol, I think sometimes people forget that they are an individual.
[quote]esskay wrote:
According to an article that I think I read on here, its possible to build 1-2lbs of muscle per month, and with that comes 2-3lbs. of extra water and glycogen weight, so its theoretically possible to put on up to 60lbs of lean mass a year. [/quote]
Everything you just wrote is off. NO ONE’S body grows at some constant rate like that. Some of you are basing what you should do and how you eat on “averages”…and that makes no sense…unless you just don’t understand your own biology very well.[/quote]
my numbers were off but thats what I was basing it on
[quote]esskay wrote:
According to an article that I think I read on here, its possible to build 1-2lbs of muscle per month, and with that comes 2-3lbs. of extra water and glycogen weight, so its theoretically possible to put on up to 60lbs of lean mass a year. [/quote]
Everything you just wrote is off. NO ONE’S body grows at some constant rate like that. Some of you are basing what you should do and how you eat on “averages”…and that makes no sense…unless you just don’t understand your own biology very well.[/quote]
my numbers were off but thats what I was basing it on[/quote]
Dude, I don’t care what you are basing this on.
I mean, shit, we even have had this discussion in public between me and CT…and some of you still act like I don’t know what I am talking about here.
figured it was time for a little progress pic. it seems i’ve definitely gained a little fat since i started my bulk but hopefully i’m not in the chubby category just yet lol. first pic 188LBS second 215LBS
Just don’t underestimate the strength gains/intensity needed for muscular gains. Don’t be the type who just goes by the scales and doesn’t focus on exercise progression.
Eating enough is to enable the muscles to grow and get stronger, not just to make the scale go up. Don’t get it the wrong way around.
Gaining is a long term commitment, based on your body’s own feedback, not just some spur of the moment thing where you gain some random high number on the scales in a few weeks.
[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
well you’re definitely bigger, keep up the good work. [/quote]
thanks man
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Just don’t underestimate the strength gains/intensity needed for muscular gains. Don’t be the type who just goes by the scales and doesn’t focus on exercise progression.
Eating enough is to enable the muscles to grow and get stronger, not just to make the scale go up. Don’t get it the wrong way around.
Gaining is a long term commitment, based on your body’s own feedback, not just some spur of the moment thing where you gain some random high number on the scales in a few weeks.[/quote]
yeah, it may sound weird but the biggest gains came when i wasn’t really as focused on seing visual changes. i just made sure that my nutrition, training and sleeping were done properly and didnt worry about the rest.
i found that the times when i started obsessing over seeing size gains in certain body parts were the most unprodcutive, they tended to lead to me changing up my routine when the old one may have been fine, and screwing up my nutrition when i didnt see results.
i guess just focusing on those 3 things (diet, training and nutrition) is the hardest part, after all what else is there?
I’ve come to a point where the amount of college work and commitments prevents me from getting to the gym 5 days a week like i’ve been doing pretty much since mid january. However I am determined that my training will not suffer and my goal to be huge will be realised one day.
I’m going to start doing a max-OT style workout 3 times a week starting on Monday. I’ve been reading a lot about Jeff Willet and how he trains, from there got on to AST and read all about the program. I think its fair to say i’m not just switching from one program to the next since I’ve been on my current one since January (made it up myself :D).
Anyone else train max-OT? How were the results?
If not i guess ill be the guinea pig for the beginners forum and let everyone know how it goes!
It varies from person to person, I believe after the “noob gains” that a person who has never worked out before see’s in the first few months, the average number is 10 lbs of muscle a year (naturally). This of course doesn’t apply if you’re going to be using steroids, etc.
I’ve been lifting for about 3 years, naturally and I have gone from 130 to 165 pounds.
You just need to lift hard, stay focused, and maintain a good diet.
I would also recommend supplementing creatine for building muscle.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I really now doubt it when people say they can’t make it to the gym 5 days a week.
Someone who actually wanted it bad enough would make it to the gym enough. [/quote]
thank you for the completely useless comment dumbass…[/quote]
It wasn’t useless at all. I’ve been where you are and more as far as school and time commitments. If you want it, you will make time. Period. Don’t tell people with MORE responsibility than you that you don’t have time because they won’t believe it.
The whole “time thing” is becoming more and more of a pet peeve of mine
I have a full time job that I have to travel to, while building my own house (in freezing/shitty weather) with every ounce of free time I have and living on a trashy trailer that looks like it’s plotted on a building site (that’s been bombed). All while keeping a family happy.
Have to grit my teeth when my friends (living in their warm, completed and posh looking houses and part time jobs) say they’re too tired or don’t have time to train lol
You should get that damp sorted (dehumidifier or something)…that’s if your house-mates/landlord aren’t too stingy lol. I’ve lived in damp houses before and it caused really bad asthma (mould growth etc.
[quote]IrishOak wrote:
well good for both of you, i hope you’re proud of yourselves.
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That wasn’t the point. The point is, “I don’t have time” is usually a lame excuse. I mean, unless you have a family, travel several hours a day to work and also work more than 5 days a weel, you don’t have much excuse…and many of the people here went through college and grad school and now have careers and still made it to the gym.
If you simply changed priorities, that is on you, but don’t use some lame excuse as justification for why you aren’t that focused on the gym.
MOST people are like you just discussed. They will fall out the gym the moment life gets hard…which is why most people are out of shape passed the age where they have mandatory phys ed classes.
You come across like one of the millions who will simply fall into the same rut over time.
Guys like that don’t last in this…or if they do, they are the type who spend half a decade looking the same or worse.
What a waste of time.
Find another hobby if you don’t have the interest in this one.
