As topic, but first, excuse my english if some of the things I say does not make sense sometimes.
I will be short - how much protein can one consume in just one meal? I have heard of lots of side effects that my body will show me to let me know that the protein intake is too much for me, but I never felt them and I feel good about the way I eat now - 2-4 large meals of lots of protein, veggies, good fats and complex carbs.
I’ve heard pretty damn big and strong natural guys to say that either the rest of the protein is used for energy, or stored as fat, or is digested, hell, I have even heard that it goes in your bones, but none of them supports the warrior-like diet.
Christian Thibaudeau himself on the other hand said once ,I can’t remember the thread, that the only good thing about the more often with less food meals is apetite control, which means he supports the high-protein intake in just one meal. He even told a story about how he lost a lot of fat once with the warrior diet, due to his lack of time to eat more often, and managed to keep his muscles and even got stronger. I wouldn’t argue with him. After all, he IS CT, but different people say all kinds of things, which you must admit, confuses the beginners.
A little info about me, in case it matters:
17 y/o, 190lbs 5’4"
About 20-25% BF
Total of 390kg.
Training since March 2008.
I don’t believe evenly distributing protein over all your meals is NEARLY as important as just getting the right amount of protein throughout that day.
Not to say it’s BAD to spread it out evenly, but if you had to choose between 200 grams per day spread over 6 meals, or 400 spread over 4 meals, I’d definitely expect to see the 400 gram guy (assuming other factors in overall calories/training are similar) make better progress.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I don’t believe evenly distributing protein over all your meals is NEARLY as important as just getting the right amount of protein throughout that day.
Not to say it’s BAD to spread it out evenly, but if you had to choose between 200 grams per day spread over 6 meals, or 400 spread over 4 meals, I’d definitely expect to see the 400 gram guy (assuming other factors in overall calories/training are similar) make better progress. [/quote]
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I don’t believe evenly distributing protein over all your meals is NEARLY as important as just getting the right amount of protein throughout that day.
Not to say it’s BAD to spread it out evenly, but if you had to choose between 200 grams per day spread over 6 meals, or 400 spread over 4 meals, I’d definitely expect to see the 400 gram guy (assuming other factors in overall calories/training are similar) make better progress. [/quote]
I agree, i think that spreading out food can be great for other reasons like keeping you saited on a diet or if your a guy who has a hard time eating alot spreading it out can help you get in the calories to grow.
Another thing is i think a bit of timing is important for example i don’t think one should ignore the window of para workout nutrition and just have big ass meals at breakfast and dinner, but if you have been reading CT’s work you know this already.
Now another one for protein: should I calculate my daily consumption of protein with my total weigh, or just my active mass? Let’s say Im 100kg. 15% BF - is it 3 grams multiplied by 100, or 85?
p.s. Jud, I eat at school. Actually I drink - milk. After that a huge meal for luch, which is pre-workout, than by noon I train, and around 9 o’clock, since I walk 40 minutes from my gym to home, I eat my last meal. At least 1/2 my whole daily protein is casein.
Now another one for protein: should I calculate my daily consumption of protein with my total weigh, or just my active mass? Let’s say Im 100kg. 15% BF - is it 3 grams multiplied by 100, or 85?
p.s. Jud, I eat at school. Actually I drink - milk. After that a huge meal for luch, which is pre-workout, than by noon I train, and around 9 o’clock, since I walk 40 minutes from my gym to home, I eat my last meal. At least 1/2 my whole daily protein is casein.[/quote]
In my short experience, the above equations didn’t really matter. I was getting about 300 grams and 3500-4000 calories and stalled on strength and size gains for over 3 months. I bumped up to 350-400 grams and my strength exploded for 2 months up into my ACL surgery. I weighed about 240 20% bodyfat (est). Therefore, that whole active mass equation means nothing to me.
Back to the protein quanity - what if I have slow metabolism? I mean if I want to lose some fat, if not most of it, would it be better if I am evenly distributing protein over all of my meals for the day so my metabolism can get faster to speed up the process, or I can keep on the big meals and achieve the same goals?
Another thing is i think a bit of timing is important for example i don’t think one should ignore the window of para workout nutrition and just have big ass meals at breakfast and dinner, but if you have been reading CT’s work you know this already.[/quote]
You can have 2 to 4 meals per day and not neglect peri-workout nutrition.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Michael Phelps has 10,000 calories spread out over 3 meals and he does just fine. :)[/quote]
Is that a legit number or are you yanking my chain?
That dude must drop the most insane deuces on the planet.
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It was all over the internet when the Olympics were on, apparently being an Olympic athlete makes you need a bit more food than normal. And also makes your toilet hate you.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Michael Phelps has 10,000 calories spread out over 3 meals and he does just fine. :)[/quote]
Is that a legit number or are you yanking my chain?
That dude must drop the most insane deuces on the planet.
[/quote]
It was all over the internet when the Olympics were on, apparently being an Olympic athlete makes you need a bit more food than normal. And also makes your toilet hate you.[/quote]
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Michael Phelps has 10,000 calories spread out over 3 meals and he does just fine. :)[/quote]
Is that a legit number or are you yanking my chain?
That dude must drop the most insane deuces on the planet.
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It was all over the internet when the Olympics were on, apparently being an Olympic athlete makes you need a bit more food than normal. And also makes your toilet hate you.[/quote]
I bet he would metal in the dumpoff event too.[/quote]
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Michael Phelps has 10,000 calories spread out over 3 meals and he does just fine. :)[/quote]
Is that a legit number or are you yanking my chain?
That dude must drop the most insane deuces on the planet.
[/quote]
It was all over the internet when the Olympics were on, apparently being an Olympic athlete makes you need a bit more food than normal. And also makes your toilet hate you.[/quote]
I bet he would metal in the dumpoff event too.[/quote]
The 12,000 calories claim was false. He does eat 10,000. Actually a lot of SHW OLers and PLers eat 10,000.
There’s a video on You Tube of him eating a 3,000+ calorie breakfast.
Let’s remind ourselves this guy trains 36 hours per week!
Well I train 10 hours per week, not counting aerobic work such, but am eating three times less calories, or even less. So I guess it is okay.
I have a hard time showing abs. I actually never had, but it’s not a problem to lose 10-15 pounds. The more fat you are, the easier you loose the first few pounds of fat. We’re talking about fat loss here, not about cutting. My goal is not any specific % of BF. I just want to weigh less but keep my strength, or even increase it. My goal is not to look good, just normal, and be in low category so when you deadlift 165kg at 85kg. BW is nothing, but when you deadlift 170 @ 70-75kg. is another thing.
[quote]Who_Cares wrote:
Well I train 10 hours per week, not counting aerobic work such, but am eating three times less calories, or even less. So I guess it is okay.
I have a hard time showing abs. I actually never had, but it’s not a problem to lose 10-15 pounds. The more fat you are, the easier you loose the first few pounds of fat. We’re talking about fat loss here, not about cutting. My goal is not any specific % of BF. I just want to weigh less but keep my strength, or even increase it. My goal is not to look good, just normal, and be in low category so when you deadlift 165kg at 85kg. BW is nothing, but when you deadlift 170 @ 70-75kg. is another thing.[/quote]
Have you ever tried educating yourself on training and nutrition AS A WHOLE.
Your posts imply to me that you don’t know about nutrition AS A WHOLE. That is, knowledge on protein intake AND fat, carbohydrate, and caloric intake for any goal.
Fat loss isn’t just a matter of adjusting protein intake and your REALLY vague and broad inquiries take indicate your lacking nutriiton knowledge. Read some articles nd books.
