How Much Milk Do YOU Drink?

Nutrition
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[quote]Charlemagne wrote:
Oh, this is new, “The Prof”, is taking offense as to what someone said. Let me clarify. Most people tend to gain more fat when using dairy products to gain weight as opposed to eating cleaner foods. That is all I am saying. If someone can gain 20lbs. of lean mass eating alot of dairy products, hey I’m all for it.

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Please prove that people gain more fat from drinking milk than those who do not drink milk when all else is equal.

Your caloric intake is most important when determining what contributes to fat gain. To claim that milk somehow magically causes more of a gain to become body fat is ridiculous.

No one “took offense” to what you wrote. What you wrote is simply being highlighted due to the heaps of wrong info it contained.

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[quote]BIGZEUS wrote:
Reason to drink milk:

  1. EZ BuLkzorz[/quote]

Reason not to take this post seriously

  1. Leetspeak

Nah, just messing with ya’.

:slight_smile:

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I started drinking about half a gallon of skim a day. I did notice I had a little more acne on my arms. I’d rather gain weight then worry about a little but of acne not visible. Which would you rather drink for weight gaining reason, skim or whole for other reasons then taste? I understand whole has substantially more calories. About 1350:2500(a gallon)

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[quote]zfolwick wrote:
I’ve ditched milk entirely and added fish oil and noticed massive improvements in cardio as well looking more defined. I am not a weight lifter, rather a fighter, so cardio and fast RFD is more important than strength and looking stacked.

In place of cows milk I drink either rice milk or, just recently, plan on trying out almond milk. Apparently it’s as easy to make as a protein shake.[/quote]

How the heck do you get milk from Almonds? Is this any better than Soy Milk? This food industry is screwing people over. Almonds don’t have udders. Cows have udders. Milk is produced from cows. You are not drinking milk; it’s Almond Sauce (for lack of a better term)!

When they make their “Almond milk” or “Soy Milk” they then enrichen it with other ingredients to mimic milk ingredients.

For example “calcium”. Can this calcium even be absorbed by the body? Why do this? If you refuse to drink milk do not drink it at all. You are contradicting yourself by drinking Soy Milk or Almond milk and not drinking cow’s milk. If you want to reap the benefits of Almonds eat almonds! Almond milk? Wow…

-Kev

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[quote]Brett T. wrote:
T.J. wrote:
You don’t think they work even on a relative level? So if you dropped from 20% to 15%, you wouln’t beleive you’ve dropped bodyfat at all? I disagree fully.

Correct, I don’t believe you can accurately measure bodyfat with those scales. I’ll believe you dropped mass of some sort, sure. But whether it’s water weight, bodyfat, or muscle, I don’t know based on a scale.

On top of that, I stated I have been seeing slight visible difference.

I can see a slight difference in myself any time I want. Sometimes I look a little more carefully than others. If you had taken pictures and there was a noticeable difference, then I might be more inclined to believe you.

Out of all the posters that said they drank milk everyday a couple times a day, how many of you are under 8% bodyfat @ at the very least 170 pounds body weight? Probably not too many, if any.

I don’t see what your “8% bodyfat and at least shitstick skinny” question proves. If you’re under 8% bodyfat, you’re not gaining any muscle, and you’re probably either anorexic or dieting down for a contest.

Why I have I read so many experienced athletes/coaches not reccommend milk?

What sport are these experienced athletes/coaches involved in? Name a few bodybuilding/strength coaches or athletes who have VALID reasons to keep EVERYONE from EVER drinking milk.

It’s great for gaining weight, of course, nothings easier and cheaper than drinking liters of milk everyday

You said it, brotha.

But it’s just that, a cheap alternative to better methods of getting protein and calories, it’s not the best way, at all.

What? What IS the best way? Tons of protein powder mixed in water, which will cost MUCH more money, and in my experience has NO advantage when bulking? Is that what you recommend? Tell me man, what’s better?[/quote]

Lovely. Besides the money factor. Protein powder has almost 1 gram of carbohydrates. Overindulgence in protein powder alone won’t get you big. You need calories from carbohydrates and fat to build muscle. Milk has both protein AND carbohydrates.

As simple as this quote is we tend to forget it and that’s why I keep it in my blog so I remember it.

We need more than just “bricks” (amino acid building blocks), we also need “gas for the brick layer’s equipment” (calories from carbs and healthy fats). – Lonnie Lowery

Of course, Dr. Lowery isn’t the first and only person/nutritionist to say this but he summarized that information the best.

-Kev

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The insulin spike theory is interesting. I for one am an insulin dependent diabetic and have been for 28yrs. I am aware when my body needs “extra” insulin because of food. Milk doesn’t do it for me eventhough it contains 10-12 grams of carbs per serving.

I drink 5 cups of skim a day and do not need extra insulin because of it. Nor do I need extra insulin because of 2 scoops of protein powder because the carbs are rated at only 2 grams.

Now PWO with Surge I need 5.5 units of insulin because of the carbs.

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[quote]68Nova wrote:
The insulin spike theory is interesting. I for one am an insulin dependent diabetic and have been for 28yrs. I am aware when my body needs “extra” insulin because of food. Milk doesn’t do it for me.

I drink 5 cups of skim a day and do not need extra insulin because of it. Nor do I need extra insulin because of 2 scoops of protein powder because the carbs are rated at only 2 grams.

Now PWO with Surge I need 5.5 units of insulin because of the carbs.[/quote]

I guess that settles that argument.

Tune in next week when we debunk the overall usefulness of kettleballs.

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If I understand things right, milk is a highyl bio-available protein source.

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When I have access to raw milk, I’ll drink at least three gallons a week. For me, it has to be raw and it has to be whole. A glass of whole milk provides roughly 11-12 g of carbs, and 8 g each of fat and protein.

The fat, of course, contains vitamin A, which is shown to increase protein synthesis. So, I get an easy to consume food source that comes packed with calories and protein, and, equally as important, the micronutrients I need to use the protein.

Let’s not also forget that the calcium in milk no doubt helps fuel the increases in bone denisty along the axial lines of stress that are stimulated by weight bearing activities (i.e., weight training).

For those who have lactose issues, raw milk tends to be easier to digest as the natural bacteria in the milk help break down the lactose. In fact the bacteria in raw milk??or, even better, in raw kefir??help you to digest foods much better in general.

This makes milk not only beneficial as a standalone food, but also helps enrich your ability to digest in general which has obvious importance for individuals eating large amounts of foods to add weight.

By way of anecdotal example, I’ve noticed that I make very fast gains in lean mass when I have good access to raw milk. This despite not using protein powders of any sort.

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[quote]ecke2 wrote:
What about cottage cheese?
Do you guys eliminate cottage cheese from your diets too?

Is cottage cheese better then milk?[/quote]

I love cottage cheese. I can eat it from the bowl with a spoon. Some people can’t stomach cottage cheese because of the taste factor. Do yourself a favor and do not eliminate cottage cheese from your diet if you are trying to gain weight.

-Kev

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In the past month and a half I started drinking a half gallon of 1% choc milk a day and put 25lbs on my bench 30lbs on my squat and 10lbs on my deadlift without gaining a pound. now only if I would have done it without the milk it could have been more functional that way huh?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Charlemagne wrote:
Oh, this is new, “The Prof”, is taking offense as to what someone said. Let me clarify. Most people tend to gain more fat when using dairy products to gain weight as opposed to eating cleaner foods. That is all I am saying. If someone can gain 20lbs. of lean mass eating alot of dairy products, hey I’m all for it.

Please prove that people gain more fat from drinking milk than those who do not drink milk when all else is equal.

Your caloric intake is most important when determining what contributes to fat gain. To claim that milk somehow magically causes more of a gain to become body fat is ridiculous.

No one “took offense” to what you wrote. What you wrote is simply being highlighted due to the heaps of wrong info it contained.[/quote]

Your right. If caloric and nutrient uptake are equal in one person eating alot of dairy and one person eating alot of cleaner foods (ie. poultry, lean meats, etc.) than it really doesn’t matter. The weight and fat gain will be the same. But how many people really sit down and compute exactly how many calories they are taking in while bulking? I don’t think too many, but I could very well be wrong. I was just trying to make a point that generally dairy products are higher in fat and thus will lead to more of a fat gain while bulking. I was guilty of doing the same thing. Eating alot of dairy products and fast food while trying to gain weight. It’s hard to bulk, regardless of what people say, especially if you are training hard and are not taking performance enhancing drugs.

After reading Dr. Berardi, Coach Poliquin and Coach Thib’s work on gaining weight I’ve decided to cut dairy all together and focus on eating as much clean food as I can. It is harder to gain weight but I feel alot healthier. I respect your opinion Prof, I know that you’ve been around the iron game a long time and have alot of knowledge on the subject. We just happen to disagree on the role of dairy products in ones diet.

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[quote]John S. wrote:
In the past month and a half I started drinking a half gallon of 1% choc milk a day and put 25lbs on my bench 30lbs on my squat and 10lbs on my deadlift without gaining a pound. now only if I would have done it without the milk it could have been more functional that way huh?[/quote]

That’s good. Like I said, people are all different and some can’t handle that much dairy. While I was doing Sheiko programs a couple months back I didn’t drink one glass of milk. Just a lot of Surge, Greens+, meats, brown rice, and sweet potatoes. I might have gained 5lb. in bodyweight. I gained 60lbs. on my bench and deadlift, and another 75lbs on my squat. I don’t think anybody is ragging on people who drink a lot of milk. If it works for you then more power to you. It is cheap and a quick way to add more of calories.

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[quote]Charlemagne wrote:

Your right. If caloric and nutrient uptake are equal in one person eating alot of dairy and one person eating alot of cleaner foods (ie. poultry, lean meats, etc.) than it really doesn’t matter. [/quote]

Then you should have stopped typing…but no.

[quote]
The weight and fat gain will be the same. But how many people really sit down and compute exactly how many calories they are taking in while bulking? I don’t think too many, but I could very well be wrong. I was just trying to make a point that generally dairy products are higher in fat and thus will lead to more of a fat gain while bulking. [/quote]

Holy piles of steaming crap. More fat in your diet equals more fat gain on your body? Is this Susan Powter typing? I thought you were dead!

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Half gallon a day. Skim milk.
Milk to me is a neccessity, just like red meat,vegatables, and fish oils.
I’m lucky; I don’t get the “pudge” some folks get when consuming milk…but I acknowledge many do and perhaps they should avoid it.

Prof. X: you are too funny. I hope to meet you one day and shake your hand.

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By that logic, I should get myself some Awesome Sauce.

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Where do some of you guys get raw milk? It is against the law not to pasturize and homogonize it to make it useless and dangerous to your arteries…

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[quote]suprarob wrote:
Where do some of you guys get raw milk? It is against the law not to pasturize and homogonize it to make it useless and dangerous to your arteries…[/quote]

Your best bet is to probably go to a farmer’s market and ask around. Be discreet, though. Some farmers might get a little nervous if you look suspicious. There was actually a farmer from here in KY who got raided for selling raw milk. Yes, that’s right. Raided.

http://glencoltonfarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=103&Itemid=29

And another guy in Ohio was busted in an undercover sting operation…for raw milk.

http://legalsoapbox.freeadvice.com/n25566_Ohio_farmer_argues_milk_law_goes_against_Amish_beliefs.htm

Our government is ridiculous sometimes…

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[quote]CC wrote:
suprarob wrote:
Where do some of you guys get raw milk? It is against the law not to pasturize and homogonize it to make it useless and dangerous to your arteries…

Your best bet is to probably go to a farmer’s market and ask around. Be discreet, though. Some farmers might get a little nervous if you look suspicious. There was actually a farmer from here in KY who got raided for selling raw milk. Yes, that’s right. Raided.
http://glencoltonfarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=103&Itemid=29

And another guy in Ohio was busted in an undercover sting operation…for raw milk.

http://legalsoapbox.freeadvice.com/n25566_Ohio_farmer_argues_milk_law_goes_against_Amish_beliefs.htm

Our government is ridiculous sometimes…[/quote]

All I can say is WTF…if I’m gonna by something to put in my body…than bleep what the government thinks…total BS…and just goes to show of the mass government take over of our personal lives. It’s a food product…not a drug. I can feel a rant coming so I’ll go now…

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[quote]MODOK wrote:
DtotheG wrote:

X, you should know by now that eating fat makes you fat. Also, eating bones makes you boney.

By that logic, I should get myself some Awesome Sauce.

I’ve been going through a bottle of hot sauce a week…but I’m STILL ugly. I’m doing something wrong.
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You probably got “mild”.