How Much Does Water Weight Weigh?

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[quote]msd0060 wrote:
Every pro-Professor X dude in here probably flames the shit out of the latest claims from the latest XXXtreme protein powder, but by God, if the ol’ Prof says he gained 3-5 pounds of 100% muscle mass in 48 hours, then it’s hook, line, sinker, and baby batter, all while looking lovingly into his eyes.

I, for one, think it’s 100% bullshit. But I also know what I think or say doesn’t matter. Just like what he writes on an internet forum.

Can’t prove it, can’t disprove it.

I will also say that out of all posters on here, I enjoy reading his the most. Well second most, Push is #1.[/quote]

Not at all. Not by any means. I simply know that I’ve had spurts of quick muscle gain. Sometimes following a period of stagnation. Sometimes following a normal rate of gains. And they have STAYED. They haven’t disappeared within a few days ‘at the same rate’.

It’s not the amount of muscle gained by another in a particular period of time that’s the issue for me. I could care less about that. But the statement that supercompensation is necessariy followed by weight loss is utter bullshit.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Every pro-Professor X dude in here probably flames the shit out of the latest claims from the latest XXXtreme protein powder, but by God, if the ol’ Prof says he gained 3-5 pounds of 100% muscle mass in 48 hours, then it’s hook, line, sinker, and baby batter, all while looking lovingly into his eyes.

I, for one, think it’s 100% bullshit. But I also know what I think or say doesn’t matter. Just like what he writes on an internet forum.

Can’t prove it, can’t disprove it.

I will also say that out of all posters on here, I enjoy reading his the most. Well second most, Push is #1.

LOL. I’ve trained a guy who gained over 20lbs in less than two months (about 6 weeks). His body fat didn’t change (which means he did gain some body fat but the majority of his gain was muscle mass). He was not “average” in terms of genetics, but according to your disbelief and others, this simply can not occur in that time period.

Some of you sure do limit yourselves (and others) when it comes to what you think can be achieved.

That isn’t hindering anyone but yourselves in the long run.

I firmly believe in the power of noob gains, I’ve witnessed them myself. Not doubting this last story at all.

He wasn’t even a newbie in the sense of never training before. He played college football. He had lifted weights before but had never been serious about eating enough or actually working out non-stop for weeks on end. This was my frat brother. He basically followed me around for that time period, ate several times a day (I let him use my meal replacements and protein), trained with me and blew up as a result.

Everyone does not have the same genetics. Why would 3lbs over a weekend be so hard to believe but 20lbs over six weeks for someone who wasn’t small to begin with isn’t? [/quote]

Well I mean if the guy was big already, and half assed his nutrition and workout dedication, then we can say he has some pretty good genes. Take that, then put him under the wing of you, someone very meticulous about all things muscles, then we may as well consider him a noob, because it’s an entire new world he entered into.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
jaredbr wrote:
Burnesy wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Zagman wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I have gained 3-5lbs of muscle in one weekend before. Your body supercompensates when it wants to. Trying to micro-analyze every lbs gained is ridiculous.

No offense, but I gotta call bullshit on that. I don’t think protein synthesis works quite that quickly.

You can call bullshit all you please. One of us has the arms to prove that some serious growth has occurred. One does not.

the funniest and most accurate thing I’ve read today. Way to end an argument Prof X.

A bottle of protein powder says you can gain 8.4 pounds in 14 days
A bottle of quick mass says you can gain 10 pounds in 10 days
You say you gained 3-5 pounds of muscle in one weekend.

If these results were actually true Then why does the majority of the population not report these results.

I have gained 7 pounds in a week before, but i am smart enough to know that most likely that will be water glycogen, or un digested food, Doctor Micheal Colgen who trains many USA olympic athletes has done many many studies on this subject where they use methods to test weather water, fat, glycogen, muscle was gained and after years of study in a fuckin lab not a couch, it was reported that 1-4 pounds of muscle per month is the expected gain with out steroid use.

Now I understand you have big arms but come one big arms does not mean you understand science or that you can prove that you gained 3-5 pounds of muscle in a weekend.

I am not here to prove it to you. I stated that this occurred. If you choose to believe that is impossible, so be it. I know it isn’t. Why would I need to prove this to you? You honestly believe that no one can gain weight quickly in the form of muscle mass no matter what stage of training in that amount of time? There are beginners who gain over 20lbs of mostly muscle in less than a month if they train with any guidance at all and have above average genetics. That would mean they too are doing the impossible according to you.

I am not average. You seem to be under the impression that you and me are just alike.[/quote]

I can vouch for this being possible
I droped 17 pounds of fat and gained 15-16 back in muscle in little under 6 weeks
I watched everything close and I could go 2-3 weeks with no change then all the sudden boom it hit and I gained an inch on my arms in what seemed like a week
then back to what seems no progress again

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Every pro-Professor X dude in here probably flames the shit out of the latest claims from the latest XXXtreme protein powder, but by God, if the ol’ Prof says he gained 3-5 pounds of 100% muscle mass in 48 hours, then it’s hook, line, sinker, and baby batter, all while looking lovingly into his eyes.

I, for one, think it’s 100% bullshit. But I also know what I think or say doesn’t matter. Just like what he writes on an internet forum.

Can’t prove it, can’t disprove it.

I will also say that out of all posters on here, I enjoy reading his the most. Well second most, Push is #1.

Not at all. Not by any means. I simply know that I’ve had spurts of quick muscle gain. Sometimes following a period of stagnation. Sometimes following a normal rate of gains. And they have STAYED. They haven’t disappeared within a few days ‘at the same rate’.

It’s not the amount of muscle gained by another in a particular period of time that’s the issue for me. I could care less about that. But the statement that supercompensation is necessariy followed by weight loss is utter bullshit.[/quote]

Spurts is the key word. Everyone seems to think the body grows linearly, which it most certainly does not. Which is why a constant state of overfeeding IS the fastest way to gain muscle. It insures that you won’t miss the effectiveness of those precious spurts of hormones and everything else.
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If you think that is bullshit, please research how growth hormone is released and its unpredictable spurting pattern. All that is known is a couple times when is generally higher, but largely it is unpredictable. Is it so hard to believe that randomly spiking, unpredictable hormones, and other unpredictable body factors cause growth that is spurty and not linear? This exact reason is why people who are most anal about their gram of everything make progress slower than those who fully chase one rabbit. The body is largely unpredictable. But you all cannot accept that.

Muscle comes in spurts, not a linear fashion. Simple as that.

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Px, can you recommend any supplements to get me hyooge?

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[quote]GetSwole wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Every pro-Professor X dude in here probably flames the shit out of the latest claims from the latest XXXtreme protein powder, but by God, if the ol’ Prof says he gained 3-5 pounds of 100% muscle mass in 48 hours, then it’s hook, line, sinker, and baby batter, all while looking lovingly into his eyes.

I, for one, think it’s 100% bullshit. But I also know what I think or say doesn’t matter. Just like what he writes on an internet forum.

Can’t prove it, can’t disprove it.

I will also say that out of all posters on here, I enjoy reading his the most. Well second most, Push is #1.

Not at all. Not by any means. I simply know that I’ve had spurts of quick muscle gain. Sometimes following a period of stagnation. Sometimes following a normal rate of gains. And they have STAYED. They haven’t disappeared within a few days ‘at the same rate’.

It’s not the amount of muscle gained by another in a particular period of time that’s the issue for me. I could care less about that. But the statement that supercompensation is necessariy followed by weight loss is utter bullshit.

Spurts is the key word. Everyone seems to think the body grows linearly, which it most certainly does not. Which is why a constant state of overfeeding IS the fastest way to gain muscle. It insures that you won’t miss the effectiveness of those precious spurts of hormones and everything else.
Edit:
If you think that is bullshit, please research how growth hormone is released and its unpredictable spurting pattern. All that is known is a couple times when is generally higher, but largely it is unpredictable. Is it so hard to believe that randomly spiking, unpredictable hormones, and other unpredictable body factors cause growth that is spurty and not linear? This exact reason is why people who are most anal about their gram of everything make progress slower than those who fully chase one rabbit. The body is largely unpredictable. But you all cannot accept that.

Muscle comes in spurts, not a linear fashion. Simple as that.[/quote]

What the HELL are you talking about. I said that supercompensation is NOT necessarily followed by weight loss. What are you arguing with? Are you arguing just to argue? Go take a lesson in reading comprehension before you try to pick a fight over somehting someone has not said. Why don’t you go to the Rate My Physique thread and go rag on some subpar physique. You seem to take a lot of joy in doing that for reasons that remain unclear to me.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Every pro-Professor X dude in here probably flames the shit out of the latest claims from the latest XXXtreme protein powder, but by God, if the ol’ Prof says he gained 3-5 pounds of 100% muscle mass in 48 hours, then it’s hook, line, sinker, and baby batter, all while looking lovingly into his eyes.

I, for one, think it’s 100% bullshit. But I also know what I think or say doesn’t matter. Just like what he writes on an internet forum.

Can’t prove it, can’t disprove it.

I will also say that out of all posters on here, I enjoy reading his the most. Well second most, Push is #1.

Not at all. Not by any means. I simply know that I’ve had spurts of quick muscle gain. Sometimes following a period of stagnation. Sometimes following a normal rate of gains. And they have STAYED. They haven’t disappeared within a few days ‘at the same rate’.

It’s not the amount of muscle gained by another in a particular period of time that’s the issue for me. I could care less about that. But the statement that supercompensation is necessariy followed by weight loss is utter bullshit.

Spurts is the key word. Everyone seems to think the body grows linearly, which it most certainly does not. Which is why a constant state of overfeeding IS the fastest way to gain muscle. It insures that you won’t miss the effectiveness of those precious spurts of hormones and everything else.
Edit:
If you think that is bullshit, please research how growth hormone is released and its unpredictable spurting pattern. All that is known is a couple times when is generally higher, but largely it is unpredictable. Is it so hard to believe that randomly spiking, unpredictable hormones, and other unpredictable body factors cause growth that is spurty and not linear? This exact reason is why people who are most anal about their gram of everything make progress slower than those who fully chase one rabbit. The body is largely unpredictable. But you all cannot accept that.

Muscle comes in spurts, not a linear fashion. Simple as that.

What the HELL are you talking about. I said that supercompensation is NOT necessarily followed by weight loss. What are you arguing with? Are you arguing just to argue? Go take a lesson in reading comprehension before you try to pick a fight over somehting someone has not said. Why don’t you go to the Rate My Physique thread and go rag on some subpar physique. You seem to take a lot of joy in doing that for reasons that remain unclear to me.[/quote]

I do believe that even though he quoted your post, he was not directing that to you.

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Js, relax man, I mean’t to say good point if I didn’t say that after your post.

Your post was out of agreement and my post was supposed to be a continuation of what you brought up. My post was directed at the OP. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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That’s why I said “spurts is the key word” (you said you’ve had spurt of muscle growth), I mean’t to highlight that point of what you said, not antagonize it.

I haven’t done as much ragging in RMP lately either. I made a comment yesterday to a guy whose competition photos look like a 12 year old girl. And I really didn’t even flame him.

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[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Js, relax man, I mean’t to say good point if I didn’t say that after your post.

Your post was out of agreement and my post was supposed to be a continuation of what you brought up. My post was directed at the OP. Sorry for the misunderstanding.[/quote]

No worries. Just a misunderstanding. I thought you were attacking me for no reason without even bothering to understand what I wrote. It’s all good.