I’ve never really computed how much I spend, but I buy groceries nearly every other day. I try to each a lot of fresh stuff, so I end up hitting the shops about 3 or 4 times a week. That comes to an absolute minimum of $100 on food each week, and supplements are on a different budget allocation.
Those guys in jail sure have it tough, building muscle.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
I consider myself a consummate master of getting plenty of quality calories out of very little money, but I can’t imagine 20 dollars a week being enough for any adult male especially. Meaning while you made progress on that I’d be shocked it your gains didn’t improve noticeably being able to afford more food. Several people already said as much, but though I’d throw my 2 cents in.
Yeah, that’s what jumped out at me too. $20 a WEEK?? You’d almost literally starve to death if you tried to stretch $20 out for a week’s worth of food where I live. Cheaper in England, I suppose.
Agreed. I don’t see how anyone much over 220 is getting by on much less than 20 bucks a day (spent overall) unless they have a very slow metabolism.[/quote]
Just the shittiest food ever. The kcals are there, but as you mentioned the food choices aren’t ideal in terms of body comp.
The two foods that have helped more than anything are Peanut Butter (26pence for around 2000kcals) and oatmeal, which in bulk costs basically nothing (around 20pence per 2kilos). Milk is pretty good too.
I pay next to nothing for my whey, under £5 per kilo - unflavoured 80% pure stuff, which I save mostly for PWO.
If I ever get any extra cash in, I buy basic foods/supps in bulk and they last for ages.
Anyway… as of next week, I’ll finally have some decent money to spend, so I’ll be splashing out on steaks, whole chickens, tuna, salmon, big fat omega 3 eggs, loads of vegetables… perhaps even some flavoured whey…
The biggest difference will be the huge amounts of meat.
I won’t be spending my paycheck on any “super ultra secret only-for-the-pros ten gazillion lbs of pure lbm in five seconds protocol” supps though… just for the record.
Enjoy the new feast, man…let us know if it makes a difference in your results!
[quote]forlife wrote:
You’re in Norway, eat fish.[/quote]
I actually worked as a fisherman for years, and if I still did I would be eating mountains of cod and haddock. As it is, fish as a staple several times a day would be very expensive (or time consuming if I went out to catch it myself.) I do include some salmon a couple of times a week, though.
I’d go out and hunt polar bear, but it pisses the tourists off something fierce. Fucking Americans and their sensibilities.
You could try fishing/hunting as part of your workout. Go fishing on arm day, and hunt polar bears when you need some cardio from running.
Kroger’s has T-bones and Strip steak on sale for 3.99 a pound this week.
It looks like it’s time to fill up the fridge again.
Damn, sounds like I need to plan a steak BBQ this weekend.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Kroger’s has T-bones and Strip steak on sale for 3.99 a pound this week.
It looks like it’s time to fill up the fridge again.[/quote]
I pay something like 6.50 americanos for my ground beef, it’s not right I tell ya. 400g packets, so it’s not even a pound. No wonder every other Norwegian I see on this site are lean guys. lol
[quote]Dave_ wrote:
I won’t be spending my paycheck on any “super ultra secret only-for-the-pros ten gazillion lbs of pure lbm in five seconds protocol” supps though… just for the record.
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I am a little sad to see that you are not going to do the para workout (I,Bodybuilder) supplementation. It would have been nice to see an already BIGGER than average tmuscle participant’s results.
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Dave_ wrote:
I won’t be spending my paycheck on any “super ultra secret only-for-the-pros ten gazillion lbs of pure lbm in five seconds protocol” supps though… just for the record.
I am a little sad to see that you are not going to do the para workout (I,Bodybuilder) supplementation. It would have been nice to see an already BIGGER than average tmuscle participant’s results.
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Bear in mind I didn’t read the whole thing (the more experienced guys all KNOW that stuff like this is hugely overhyped, and probably won’t bother reading any of it) but it seems a lot of the focus is on pre-workout nutrition being key - something we’ve all known for years, right?
Plus I fail to see how hydrolysed casein is so vastly superior to hydrolysed whey.
It could be that I eat my words, but the marketing was so painful to read through, and even if it wasn’t, US->UK costs far too much to justify any curiosity I may have.
I’m not denying that it might be very effective, but my guess is that it’ll only be maybe 10% better than simply whey/leucine/simple carbs, which in turn is maybe only 10% better than a nice juicy burger.
According to T-Nation it makes 20lb of muscle in 8 weeks difference.
[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Plus I fail to see how hydrolysed casein is so vastly superior to hydrolysed whey.
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A post in a CT thread by someone… rifter? indicated that it’s usually, well, more hydrolizey than hydrolized whey (more predigested, faster uptake, etc).
Now, how much of a difference does hydrolized ANYTHING make over regular protein? Or a burger? Dunno.
Here’s a post of mine from the new AD thread:
Actually it’s not expensive. I buy eggs 48 dozen at a time when they’re on sale for a buck or sometimes even less. Ground beef goes on sale for a buck a pound and I’m good for 30-50 pounds there too. Chicken thighs will go on sale for like 69 cents a pound and I’m all over that as well. The freezer I also got on sale for a 170 bucks is always full. Salmon has gone up, but it still goes on sale for like a buck forty for a large can and I grab a pile of those too. Jack mackerel, which is pretty decent fish and goes in my glop with the salmon can still be had on sale for a buck a large can. We use maybe a quart of milk a week.
Load days are largely red potatoes, sweet potatoes, beans and fruit. I doubt if a heavy 2 day load would cost me 5 bucks for cho.
There’s a place here called Randazzo’s where 20 or 25 bucks gets me a full week of all kinds of hot peppers, bell peppers, squash, celery, garlic, tomatoes, all kinds of greens and fruit for 3 people. This place has walnuts for 2:69 a pound and I get my carbs there as well. During the summer my wife grows a bunch too which saves even more.
Costco has EVOO that by all testing I’m able to do at home seems pretty good for 14 bucks a liter. Planning and a willingness to prepare your own food is key.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Here’s a post of mine from the new AD thread:
Actually it’s not expensive. I buy eggs 48 dozen at a time when they’re on sale for a buck or sometimes even less. Ground beef goes on sale for a buck a pound and I’m good for 30-50 pounds there too. Chicken thighs will go on sale for like 69 cents a pound and I’m all over that as well. The freezer I also got on sale for a 170 bucks is always full. Salmon has gone up, but it still goes on sale for like a buck forty for a large can and I grab a pile of those too. Jack mackerel, which is pretty decent fish and goes in my glop with the salmon can still be had on sale for a buck a large can. We use maybe a quart of milk a week.
Load days are largely red potatoes, sweet potatoes, beans and fruit. I doubt if a heavy 2 day load would cost me 5 bucks for cho.
There’s a place here called Randazzo’s where 20 or 25 bucks gets me a full week of all kinds of hot peppers, bell peppers, squash, celery, garlic, tomatoes, all kinds of greens and fruit for 3 people. This place has walnuts for 2:69 a pound and I get my carbs there as well. During the summer my wife grows a bunch too which saves even more.
Costco has EVOO that by all testing I’m able to do at home seems pretty good for 14 bucks a liter. Planning and a willingness to prepare your own food is key.[/quote]
I just bought 20lbs of t-bones for under 80 bucks. Unfortunately that means the rest of my day is fucked since I have to cook it all.
I think income can be a factor that influences hypertrophy gains, but not necessarily.
While I’ve had NOxplode, I’m a supplement junkie, so sometimes it has been hard for me to budget under the assumption that food is more important than supplements.
I think that if someone has the goal of achieving a substantial level of hypertrophy, without the necessary income to do so, he (or she) should pursuit, along with the muscle growth, the goal of obtaning the desired income for the hypertrophy level wanted.
I’m thinking about relocating to Thailand or some such for most of the year. Cheap food and nice weather would be a welcome change.
… or maybe the Dominican Republic, I hear they have very anabolic fruit there.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
forlife wrote:
I honestly don’t think it matters that much. Look at the prison dudes that bodybuild. Of course, you do need access to some basic equipment and nutrition, but even people at the poverty line should be able to pull that off.
People at any level of financial means can build muscle. That wasn’t the question. Those same guys in prison would be making ten times the progress if they had access to decent supplements and true quality food all day long. Also, most of those guys are under 220lbs even though they may be ripped. Dave is bigger than that now.[/quote]
Those guys in prison have something though that money can buy you, which is enough time to train with any interruptions.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Here’s a post of mine from the new AD thread:
Actually it’s not expensive. I buy eggs 48 dozen at a time when they’re on sale for a buck or sometimes even less. Ground beef goes on sale for a buck a pound and I’m good for 30-50 pounds there too. Chicken thighs will go on sale for like 69 cents a pound and I’m all over that as well. The freezer I also got on sale for a 170 bucks is always full. Salmon has gone up, but it still goes on sale for like a buck forty for a large can and I grab a pile of those too. Jack mackerel, which is pretty decent fish and goes in my glop with the salmon can still be had on sale for a buck a large can. We use maybe a quart of milk a week.
Load days are largely red potatoes, sweet potatoes, beans and fruit. I doubt if a heavy 2 day load would cost me 5 bucks for cho.
There’s a place here called Randazzo’s where 20 or 25 bucks gets me a full week of all kinds of hot peppers, bell peppers, squash, celery, garlic, tomatoes, all kinds of greens and fruit for 3 people. This place has walnuts for 2:69 a pound and I get my carbs there as well. During the summer my wife grows a bunch too which saves even more.
Costco has EVOO that by all testing I’m able to do at home seems pretty good for 14 bucks a liter. Planning and a willingness to prepare your own food is key.
I just bought 20lbs of t-bones for under 80 bucks. Unfortunately that means the rest of my day is fucked since I have to cook it all.[/quote]
Why dont you get a big freezer?
I had one, put I do not have the room for it anymore. If you are able to use such offers better it practically pays for itself.