How Long to Stay at Weight After Bulk?

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[quote]paulieserafini wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
If we want to look at science, most people make their best gains in the 10-15 percent bodyfat range. I’d say that the majority of natural and assisted bodybuilders that I talk to, unless they are genetically predisposed to being extremely lean at all times, usually won’t stray too far under that 10 percent or over that 15 percent range. IME, if you are unable to see your abs in some manner while flexing, you’ve probably gone too far. Now, that doesn’t mean you have an 8 pack with shredded intercoastals lol, but have some semblance of an abdominal region.

My advice would probably change slightly for someone trying to make that initial gain, but I’d say after you’ve done one good bulk, there is really no need to let yourself get too fat or stay at that weight for a prolonged period of time because, as we know, that simply makes it harder to lean out, both physiologically and psychologically.

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holy fuck where did you come from?

this was the thread? this thread pulled you out of hiding?[/quote]

As his current Powerlifting Coach, I bullied him into posting.

Isn’t that right Nattygod :wink:

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These avatars are killing me

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[quote]Waittz wrote:
These avatars are killing me[/quote]

It was fun while it lasted.

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I’m just wondering how long its going to be till the mods step in and stop this board from becoming a total shitstorm on PX. X, since you are so smart and refuse to take advice from anyone here i think its time you leave the boards. Problem solved.

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[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]StormTheBeach wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
I guarantee that you’d being uncomfortable posting a shirtless picture today, which really sets off my BS alarm.
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Me taken 10 Feb 2013 255lbs.

This is me at probably the “fattest” I plan to get right now.

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Resolution on shirted AVI picture… crystal clear. Resolution on shirtless “fat” picture… taken during earthquake.[/quote]

Wow

Clear enough for you?

I have more if you are still looking for things to complain about.[/quote]

So you’re in the 17%-20% bodyfat range? Cool

at best you probably have 210lbs of lean body mass, at worst, 200lbs of lean body mass.

In all honesty, if you were ever to diet down to a competition lean, I’d say 190-195lbs.

How tall are you X?
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?? I’m 5’10. Once again, you are pulling numbers out your ass.[/quote]

Probably, but most of the Powerlifters I train with are in the 17%-20% (actually tested) and you look like you have the same level of “leanness” that my guys do.

5’10 at 210 is still pretty swole. I just don’t think it’s necessary carry that much bulk, when a lot of it looks to be a combination of fat, glycogen, water, etc.[/quote]

Watch your tone, bro. I’m 17% and fucking shredded.[/quote]

Trollolololol

I mean I’m not the leanest guy in the world either, but body recomposition is a year by year endeavor. The biggest mistake I ever did was pushing my body weight up for the sake of pushing up,thinking that I’d be more muscular if I forced my body to accept a higher “set point” I’ve spent the last 2-3 years having to fix my body composition at the same 205-210lbs. Very similar to what Stu has been doing. I feel that it’s better for the individual trainee in the long run to follow a similar route.[/quote]

6-15,000 cals/day or you’re just not cut out for this. [/quote]

6,500/day checking in… I can’t afford my house anymore but I have enough ground beef for the next 3,000 years.

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[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
These avatars are killing me[/quote]

It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

tears…

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
These avatars are killing me[/quote]

It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

tears…[/quote]

Laaaaaaaaaaaaame

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
These avatars are killing me[/quote]

It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

tears…[/quote]

Laaaaaaaaaaaaame[/quote]

Thankfully i saw it this morning, because without ever witnessing that, my day would truly not be as pleasant.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
These avatars are killing me[/quote]

It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

tears…[/quote]

Laaaaaaaaaaaaame[/quote]

Thankfully i saw it this morning, because without ever witnessing that, my day would truly not be as pleasant. [/quote]

Yeah. It was pretty funny but I can sort of see why the mods pulled them.

I mean, it’s ok for people to up other people’s pictures as their Avi’s but not that one, but whatevs. I can see why it was done, even though it was pretty funny.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
These avatars are killing me[/quote]

It was fun while it lasted.[/quote]

tears…[/quote]

Laaaaaaaaaaaaame[/quote]

Thankfully i saw it this morning, because without ever witnessing that, my day would truly not be as pleasant. [/quote]

Yeah. It was pretty funny but I can sort of see why the mods pulled them.

I mean, it’s ok for people to up other people’s pictures as their Avi’s but not that one, but whatevs. I can see why it was done, even though it was pretty funny.[/quote]

Agreed. Now back to more discussions of the benefits of getting and staying fat to build muscle!

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[quote]jtownlax wrote:
I’m just wondering how long its going to be till the mods step in and stop this board from becoming a total shitstorm on PX. X, since you are so smart and refuse to take advice from anyone here i think its time you leave the boards. Problem solved.[/quote]

This is amazing.

I need to leave a forum…because you won’t stop acting like assholes?

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[quote]zraw wrote:

You acting like you are the authority in all manners of bodybuilding because you “got big” and “know guys that have been in magazines and npc competitors” when clearly you do not have half the credibility you seem to think you do is the problem many here have.[/quote]

Confusing. The Op asked a question and mentioned me by name…yet me responding to the OP and him being happy with the advice means I am “the authority in all manners of bodybuilding”.

First, to you and anyone else with this ridiculous mindset, I by no means think I am some authority on all things bodybuilding. I come here to discuss this shit with other serious lifters. I also know enough about this from years of personal experience to know that not everyone in the industry agrees and that does not immediately make them “all wrong” or “all right”.

I came here for the camaraderie this board used to have…not this current meme bullshit where all of you join together to shout someone down for no reason.

NOTHING written by me in this thread warranted this ridiculous response.

This reaction makes you all look threatened. There would be no need for it otherwise.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

You acting like you are the authority in all manners of bodybuilding because you “got big” and “know guys that have been in magazines and npc competitors” when clearly you do not have half the credibility you seem to think you do is the problem many here have.[/quote]

Confusing. The Op asked a question and mentioned me by name…yet me responding to the OP and him being happy with the advice means I am “the authority in all manners of bodybuilding”.

First, to you and anyone else with this ridiculous mindset, I by no means think I am some authority on all things bodybuilding. I come here to discuss this shit with other serious lifters. I also know enough about this from years of personal experience to know that not everyone in the industry agrees and that does not immediately make them “all wrong” or “all right”.

I came here for the camaraderie this board used to have…not this current meme bullshit where all of you join together to shout someone down for no reason.

NOTHING written by me in this thread warranted this ridiculous response.

This reaction makes you all look threatened. There would be no need for it otherwise.[/quote]

It’s not just this thread. This has been thousands of posts in the making. Your continuous douchebaggery is what led up to this point.

And you pretending that you’re an innocent victim isn’t helping matters. You’re like one of those addicts on the Intervention show who thinks he doesn’t have a problem and the people calling him out on his behavior are the crazy ones.

Deny. Deny. Deny.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

It’s not just this thread.[/quote]

Wait…so you jumped into a thread where you were not offended only to harass me while I tried to help a poster?

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This has been thousands of posts in the making. Your continuous douchebaggery is what led up to this point. [/quote]

Interesting. Your opinion of me is why you justify doing this in every thread?

What if other people disagree with you?

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And you pretending that you’re an innocent victim isn’t helping matters. You’re like one of those addicts on the Intervention show who thinks he doesn’t have a problem and the people calling him out on his behavior are the crazy ones.

Deny. Deny. Deny.[/quote]

I’m not denying anything. Your posts in this thread haven’t been polite…or innocent…or thoughtful…or helpful to the line of discussion…yet you somehow think that because you have the opinion that I have done the same, you can now do this in every thread from here on out.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

It’s not just this thread.[/quote]

Wait…so you jumped into a thread where you were not offended only to harass me while I tried to help a poster?

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This has been thousands of posts in the making. Your continuous douchebaggery is what led up to this point. [/quote]

Interesting. Your opinion of me is why you justify doing this in every thread?

What if other people disagree with you?

No, I jumped in the thread to lend support when someone else called you out and you continued to pretend that you’re not a condescending dick to anyone that disagrees with you.

And with regard to the tone of my posts toward you - like I said before, an eye for an eye. You want to be an asshole all the time so I’ll treat you like one.

From the other replies in this thread it’s apparent that I’m not the only one that feels this way.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

No, I jumped in the thread to lend support when someone else called you out and you continued to pretend that you’re not a condescending dick to anyone that disagrees with you.[/quote]

So you jumped into a thread just to instigate more argument even though the discussion was on topic.

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And with regard to the tone of my posts toward you - like I said before, an eye for an eye. You want to be an asshole all the time so I’ll treat you like one. [/quote]

You seem to be the only one calling people names and acting the way you keep describing for me.

If the act was what you hated…why would you condone acting the same?

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From the other replies in this thread it’s apparent that I’m not the only one that feels this way.[/quote]

? People gather for spectacle. Those same people can turn on you in an instant. Unless you are standing up for something you actually believe in, worrying about what “the people” think is a great way to fail.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jtownlax wrote:
I’m just wondering how long its going to be till the mods step in and stop this board from becoming a total shitstorm on PX. X, since you are so smart and refuse to take advice from anyone here i think its time you leave the boards. Problem solved.[/quote]

This is amazing.

I need to leave a forum…because you won’t stop acting like assholes?

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hahahahahaha this brought the lulz. Oh man. Don’t leave X. I still <3 you even though my ideas have changed a bit.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

No, I jumped in the thread to lend support when someone else called you out and you continued to pretend that you’re not a condescending dick to anyone that disagrees with you.[/quote]

So you jumped into a thread just to instigate more argument even though the discussion was on topic.

[quote]

And with regard to the tone of my posts toward you - like I said before, an eye for an eye. You want to be an asshole all the time so I’ll treat you like one. [/quote]

You seem to be the only one calling people names and acting the way you keep describing for me.

If the act was what you hated…why would you condone acting the same?

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From the other replies in this thread it’s apparent that I’m not the only one that feels this way.[/quote]

? People gather for spectacle. Those same people can turn on you in an instant. Unless you are standing up for something you actually believe in, worrying about what “the people” think is a great way to fail.[/quote]

All the other people calling you out for the same thing goes beyond merely gathering for a spectacle. You’re so delusional about your own behavior I’m almost starting to feel sorry for you. Almost.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

All the other people calling you out for the same thing goes beyond merely gathering for a spectacle. You’re so delusional about your own behavior I’m almost starting to feel sorry for you. Almost.[/quote]

But…you aren’t even worried about my behavior according to you. You claimed you are doing this based on what you think of me from long past posts.

Why would I worry about people calling me out for shit NOT happening right now?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

All the other people calling you out for the same thing goes beyond merely gathering for a spectacle. You’re so delusional about your own behavior I’m almost starting to feel sorry for you. Almost.[/quote]

But…you aren’t even worried about my behavior according to you. You claimed you are doing this based on what you think of me from long past posts.

Why would I worry about people calling me out for shit NOT happening?[/quote]

Your post makes no sense. You got called out because of how you act on this forum (i.e., your behavior).

Are you seriously claiming that you don’t frequently act like a bully on the BB forum and that you aren’t condescending and argumentative with people who disagree with your opinion?