I doubt I can get to 260 @ 5’11" sub 8% without pushing my brain to snapping point with huge amounts of tren and liver/kidneys shutdown with too much dbol. I know GH is the next level where I can titrate off some of the other compounds to get the same or better results. I just can’t justify spending the money for GH if I’m not making money on this and fully commit.
I’m currently around 220lbs 13% and on 500mg test. I think I can break 230 without orals or tren for my health.
Adding another 40lbs of lean mass in your current state?
You’re talking an FFMI around 33.5, which is fuckin ridiculous. You’re currently at about 26.5.
Guys with a FFMI of 30 are placing well in competitions.
You should be talking to a coach if these are your goals. Jon Jewett, Justin Harris, Skip Hill… to name a few.
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How do I contact them? I was trying to harrass some youtubers but nothing yet. I appreciate it and really going to do what it takes to get past this one without killing myself. Gh just costs a lot but I know you can get pro results if you have enough money to do 10+ui/ day + test over 6-12 month timeframe.
My recommendation is to start with a coach that’s not so high-caliber first.
100% compliance is the expectation, and you don’t want to burn one of those bridges if you aren’t prepared to have everything from your calories, macros, cardio, sleep, training style, exercises, sets, reps, rest, etc… dictated by someone else.
I made this mistake and got shitlisted by someone I respect.
Check out AnabolicSteroidForums. I can’t link it because rules, but google will bring you there.
Coaches I’d recommend:
- Meetketchup (I’ve used him personally)
- CoachCabo (I would consider using him in the future)
- Wardamn (I considered using him previously, but I don’t think I would appreciate his coaching style… different personality types)
- TomJ (I speak with him regularly)
A few others, but those are the ones I’d go with first.
These are their handles.
(I’m on that forum as well under the same handle… they have DMs there if you wanted to talk offline)
You’ve got a great base to continue with, but you need 1 on 1 coaching if you’re looking for this level of gear insight. Random recommendations from internet randos is not a good way to go at your level - and I do mean that as a compliment.
I don’t believe this to be the case, otherwise you wouldn’t have people like Dallas McCarver testing 55,000ng/dL TT.
If it were this simple, there would only be UGL for Test, GH and insulin.
It won’t be 6-12 months, and it won’t be pro results.
But a good coach will have notable results. Even with shitloads of gear and GH, this still takes a lot of time.
P.S if this whole comment gets deleted, feel free to just reach out to my email (in my bio) or on ASF in messages.
Thanks man going to do this damn thing but gh is the open.
Sorry, I’m not sure what you mean by this.
Chances are that you still have a lot of progress left on the table before resorting to GH and insulin - though they can and will make significant changes.
Having a sober second opinion (of someone educated, ie ‘coach’) to look over your training, diet, and lifestyle to fine-tune things is usually worth the price.
And it’s much less expensive than GH.
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