[quote]rasturai wrote:
Shit man I’m so confused with this Leucine before meals, BCAA’s amount, when to take creatines all this shit lol I’m going to make a thread in the nutrition thing after I read up more about this so I got some firepower to go into that thread.
I just put so much time and energy into my training…to me it seems if I don’t follow everything 100% there’s no point to it cause I really want to make the best gains I can. Damn lifting and fighting seems easier then this haha.[/quote]
When things get too confusing, back up and focus on the basics.
In this case, that means focus on getting your meals down the way you want them. Then start with some basic peri-workout nutrition like Surge Workout Fuel and/or Surge Recovery. No need to get more complicated than this now. Take it one step at a time.
Oh, and don’t worry about getting things right 100% of the time. Getting hung up on doing so often leads to failure. Like Berardi says, it’s better to focus on getting it right 80% of the time so you have some leeway for emergencies, screw-ups, and anything else that doesn’t go exactly according to plan.
In some aspects good nutrition is harder than training since it requires discipline throughout the day.
With the exception of limitatinfinity, some very good advice.
Given your level of activity, I would like to see how someone in your shoes does with a lower fat, higher carb diet. This has been labeled as dietary suicide by so many within the last five years, but it works if you pick the right carb sources and keep fat intake to a minimum. If you drop calories slightly below maintenance, given your schedule, I think you will see very good results with minimal fatigue. This method has been used very successfully by people of all types before low-carb diets became in vogue, but the key is to keep fat low and choose the right carbs.
I have used both approaches with good success, and I am by no means carb tolerant (store most fat around love handle area). Carb cycling is a wonderful approach for some, but I find it is much easier to eat the same thing every day. In the past, I have started with 1g/lb protein, 1g/lb carb, and maybe 15-20% of total calories from fat, which pretty much takes care of itself with a little olive oil for food prep and fish oil supplementation.
I am lucky in that I function at 100% on zero carb diets, but I crave carbs. I do not crave fatty foods; therefore, I find it much easier to stick to higher carb, lower fat diet. Keep carb sources to lentils, oats, and fruits. Eat lots of green veggies to quell any hunger pangs.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
rasturai wrote:
Shit man I’m so confused with this Leucine before meals, BCAA’s amount, when to take creatines all this shit lol I’m going to make a thread in the nutrition thing after I read up more about this so I got some firepower to go into that thread.
I just put so much time and energy into my training…to me it seems if I don’t follow everything 100% there’s no point to it cause I really want to make the best gains I can. Damn lifting and fighting seems easier then this haha.
When things get too confusing, back up and focus on the basics.
In this case, that means focus on getting your meals down the way you want them. Then start with some basic peri-workout nutrition like Surge Workout Fuel and/or Surge Recovery. No need to get more complicated than this now. Take it one step at a time.
Oh, and don’t worry about getting things right 100% of the time. Getting hung up on doing so often leads to failure. Like Berardi says, it’s better to focus on getting it right 80% of the time so you have some leeway for emergencies, screw-ups, and anything else that doesn’t go exactly according to plan.
In some aspects good nutrition is harder than training since it requires discipline throughout the day.[/quote]
Yeah you said it man, gettin nowhere bein hung up on the details when sometimes it’s better to look at the big picture.
Amen to good nutrition being harder than training…for me training, fighting…all that is so much easier than prepping meals…i gotta work all day electrical, come home, mobility, stretch, plyo’s, fight training, liftnig weights…adjust acoordingly, rehab work all this stuff feels like another full time job n then gotta buy and make meals! haha
But no complaining here I love it and it’s my passion…just gotta get it done.
Thanks for the post!
WguitarG - yeah theres a lot of possibilites/options I can go with…I’m gonna give a few things a try and do some tweaking until I get it spot on…I am determined to get this nutrition thing spot on and gettin the supplements I need for pre-peri-and post workout nutrition. I think I am gonig to go for CT’s recommendations.
Also as HK24719 said start off with some Surge Workout Fuel etc.
I like you have tried carb cycling…but for me I have a very time-limited schedual and I gotta get in and out of the kitchen…so eatin the same thing everyday is pretty damn easy and good for money too cause I buy things in bulk .I can get ALL meals done, cooked, and ready (chicken, beef, pasta’s etc) in an hour n a half.
Might not seem like a lot but training everyday couple hours, working full time, stretching blah blah blah…it adds up…plus its a family company so theres always extras to take care of.
I’m not sure if I can function on zero carb diets…I don’t think I’d do so well…I do know that when I don’t eat many carbs though throughout the day (which is rare) I definately lean out more…compared to the more bloated, fullness I have most of the time from all the carbs n such.
I’m definately going to be adding more of those fruits n veggies.
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
I would remove the scoops of gatorade and read the thread “Questions about Peri-workout Nutrition by Christian Thibaudeau”.[/quote]
Anything else you recommend MEYMZ - I read quite a bit more on that thread you posted and checked out a couple others.
I’m going to be ditching the gatorade like you said. From what I also learned from CT on there…damn says its better to have table sugar 15min. before insted of gatorade! cause it’s high fructose corn syrup. (gatorade) Pretty interesting…but you can’t deny the taste of it lol
I’ll also add in some Workout Fuel…I don’t think I’ll be taking Surge Recovery…it’s $$$$$$
but I do have a good quality protein and I’ll think of some type of carbs to take with it
Any recommendations?
Lastly is there anything else you see with my meal plan I can adjust…I’m taking in all the advice guitar and H2K have given me as well and play with it.
Some of the shit they are talking about in there sounds like another language to me.
The Surge workout Fuel sounds pretty cool though.
I don’t think I’d have to take Surge recovery though, I think I would just take my protein powder which is pretty good quality. Have you tried any of those protocols…I mean the finibars, workout fuel is enough money already lol.
I don’t even know if I’ll be lifting enough WEIGHTS to do that kinda protocol…I mean I’m switching to 3x a week weights (very intense) but that’s cause I have boxing 2x a week and muay thai 3x a week.
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I intend to do the full protocol; first w/o MAG-10 protein and Anaconda, and then the FULL protocol. But it requires a lot of money, BUT since I like this so much I don’t think it’ll be a pain in the ass once I’m earning enough money.
I like you have tried carb cycling…but for me I have a very time-limited schedual and I gotta get in and out of the kitchen…so eatin the same thing everyday is pretty damn easy and good for money too cause I buy things in bulk .I can get ALL meals done, cooked, and ready (chicken, beef, pasta’s etc) in an hour n a half.
Might not seem like a lot but training everyday couple hours, working full time, stretching blah blah blah…it adds up…plus its a family company so theres always extras to take care of.
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A good option you can take to action is using hunger as a measuring unit for your meals, that way you’ll instinctively cycle not only your carbohydrates, but all of your nutrients.
lol