[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
Macros and even total cals don’t mean shit.
Find WHAT FOODS WORK FOR YOU and then Eat til you feel content, and then eat a pound of ground beef.
Seriously.
There’s other really good advice here too.
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macros and total cals dont mean shit? so ensuring your eating enough protein and calories to gain weight doesnt mean shit? right…[/quote]
I wasn’t clear, but I stand by what I said. Allow me to clarify. I expected some people to completely disagree with my point, but I stick to my guns on this. Finding “what foods work for you” is about understanding how food affects your body. If you eat the wrong things, then the effect the food has on your physique and recovery will be far from optimal (but you still ate those calories…), unless you are a genetic freak – Don’t misunderstand this sentence as it is pivotal to my point I am making; Allow me to further explain: Anyone asking for advice on something as basic as caloric needs and macros (no offense OP - I’m just keeping it real), needs to gain a solid understanding of how food affects their body. Experimenting with different protein sources, fat sources, and veggie/fruit/starch sources via rotation is really key in my opinion.
Most people eat a very limited diet (sorry for generalizing about most people), and have never tried so many kinds of food. This is a shame. If you are picky, your results are probably not optimal. Trying all kinds of foods is a lengthy learning process for most people. When a person gains vast experience, only then can they learn to understand food on the intimate basis and bodybuild intuitively only. I ensure you there are MANY pro and amatuer BBers who BULK intuitively. I am clearly not a fan of counting calories, though it also clearly does have it’s place, so I shouldn’t have said that “counting calories doesn’t mean shit” - I’ll give you that much. I feel counting carbs (I didn’t say limiting carbs) has move of a place. You can check out my training logs, or some of my other posts if you don’t think I know what I’m talking about…
To rephrase my advice, learning what a good foundation diet is is key. Then, adding up to a pound of ground beef (~85%, or steaks, but I find ground beef easier) will ensure plenty calories and nutrients for solid gains. It’s like GOMAD, but much easier on the digestive system for most people. In fact, ground beef is pretty affordable as well. Count calories if you want, but focusing on minutia usually compromises results when trying to establish a foundation.[/quote]
I agree to a point … But think you can totally disregard calories to your own peril …
You CAN over eat “good stuff” and get fat … Having a good calorie baseline for gains and cutting is invaluable, IMO
…more so as you get old like me
Great advice on this thread … Solid guys!