How Do You Train Prof X ?

Training Bodybuilding
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
topgun322 wrote:
Right I know you cant get your clavicles wider but you look really wide in your pictures, do you think lateral raises play a big part in giving the apperance of wider shoulders?

Yes, that and having muscular arms, traps, chest and even back. It all plays a part in how “wide” you are going to look. Large lateral delts would obviously play a very large part in that.

I would assume than I should ignore TUT and just try and keep upping my weight on the lateral raises, correct?

I can’t think of a greater place for most people to waste their time than by worrying more about TUT than the actual weight being lifted. Most people are nowhere near advanced enough to be making that the primary focus in training. The same mentality plagues just about every other aspect of training. You have people who look like they don’t even lift making Excel spread sheets and calculating their food intake down to the nanogram. It just isn’t that complicated and excessively scrutinizing the details before even get the MUCH more important basics squared away is ridiculous and silly.

I keep going back and forth between 25lbs with not great form and 20lbs droop sets with 4 sec TUT on the negative. There is so much contrary information I never know what is right. Heck if Poloqin talks about 3/0/2 etc, it does make sense that they would work and you can feel the burn more but I can never progress this way.

Most newbies probably should be much less concerned with what most of these authors write. You don’t know what to take and what to leave behind…which means it holds you back. Bodybuilding, while a practice filled with a great history and tons of info, never needed an advanced degree to see optimal progress. The reason the guy who dropped out of high school is blowing up while the fool in college extremely worried about what new acronyms he can learn isn’t is simply because the drop out learned it is more about intensity and consistency.

No one gives a shit who you can quote in the gym. If you aren’t making progress, you get an “F”.

On the flipside, that doesn’t mean be ignorant to information. It does mean most people need to take it back to basic biology, anatomy and basic training concepts before worrying about most of the shit they seem perplexed by.
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I mentioned this to somebody else and they quickly saw the light. (This is not directly to professor X, more to topgun) What your saying professor X applies to YOU and YOUR goals. TopGun if your goal is to get as large and strong as possible then professor X is a great resource. On the other hand other people work with other goals in mind.

CP is notorious on here for saying he is a strength and conditioning coach, meaning he is trying to maximize people’s athletecism. This generally means maximizing strength per pound in repeated bouts.

Both basketball players and ProfessorX may have the desire to lift weights, doesn’t mean they should lift and eat the same. In situations where a power clean will help a basketball player, it will be nearly useless for Professor X.

When you read an author’s article keep in mind

  1. What THAT author’s goal is.
  2. Weightlifting hasn’t been thoroughly mastered yet.
  3. It is highly individual.

You’ll even notice that the author’s will sometimes even contradict themselves.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
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If you want size on you, don’t be afraid of large amounts of beef, whole eggs and whole milk. I am going to avoid any discussion of even hamburgers because people are fucking stupid.

Hamburgers are a protein/fat/carb meal. You are not allowed to combine these.

Do you eat the burger and save the bun for post work out?

LOL Do you have any shows coming up? maybe at Carolines ?
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Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

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Post your pics and stats, then. Or will you have some verbal gymnastics which excuse you from calling others out without whipping out your own dick?

[quote]wings_931 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
wings_931 wrote:

And my opinion is that yours is not valid.

Since you consider the bar as a “counter weight” and do not count it in your lifts I frankly do not value youe opinion in the area of weight training.

Thanks for opinion but considering that is all you have to base your opiion on me what kind of reason is that ?

Like I kep saying - anyone can choose to be ANYONE or ANYTHING on a forum.

I don’t value your opinion on matter that is relevant in any subject at all - basis being that … who are you again?[/quote]

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He’s a 6’2 280lb olympic power body lifter who can squat 800 ATG. Why would he need to post a picture? He knows what he can do.

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[quote]Jason van Wyk wrote:
He’s a 6’2 280lb olympic power body lifter who can squat 800 ATG. Why would he need to post a picture? He knows what he can do.[/quote]

Are you seriuos? I mean about the why part?

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[quote]wings_931 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
wings_931 wrote:
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Free weights are paramount - FACT.

Over here you started a thread that says you do not count the bar as weight.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1544644

It seems you have much to learn. This is a good place to do it.

Read the rest of my post, you can see why.

Plus it completely comes down to personal preference, just like peoples choice to use machines instead!

Everyone is allowed to express any matter of opinion they have.

Remember its just a forum, people can be/say whatever they like.

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Sure they can, but it does not mean that they are contributing anything. Thanks for sharing I guess. btw: good luck keeping track of your bar weight.

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[quote]jarvis wrote:

It seems that every couple of months one of these guys decides to ‘call out’ Prof X.

There is a fantastical David and Goliath undertone to these ‘giant killers’ posts. Seemingly they believe that challenging the Prof will secure our undying gratitude for ‘opening our eyes’ to his tyrannical rule.

This is indicative of an inability to show humility and learn from people who have achieved greater things than them in the gym.

I for one, do not dogmatically follow everything the Prof says. However, I’ve followed a lot of his advice and were it not for his posts I wouldn’t have come close to the 70lbs weight gain I’ve seen this year.

I know he doesn’t need anyone fighting his corner for him but I felt the need to speak up, these kids are starting to piss me off. [/quote]

I’m not trying to hijack the thread but you are obviously referring to me when you mentioned people “calling out” Professor X.

In our discussions, I never once questioned the Prof.'s strength levels, physique or knowledge. I merely took exception to his less than tactful approach to some of the posters, though a few deserve it. That’s all water under the bridge.

I give respect where it’s due and if you’ll go back a few pages in this thread, you’ll find a sincere compliment I gave the Prof. On a last note, I’m not a “kid”. I was pumping iron before you were born.

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[quote]TornadoTommy wrote:
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I’m not trying to hijack the thread but you are obviously referring to me when you mentioned people “calling out” Professor X.

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I think he was referring the kid that didn’t know to count the weight of the bar.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Hamburgers are a protein/fat/carb meal. You are not allowed to combine these.[/quote]

On the off chance that you’re serious, refer to my question on that topic, and Berardi’s response:

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=984688&pageNo=1#986508

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[quote]jwillow wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Hamburgers are a protein/fat/carb meal. You are not allowed to combine these.

On the off chance that you’re serious, refer to my question on that topic, and Berardi’s response:

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=984688&pageNo=1#986508
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I was joking but I appreciate the link.

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[quote]TornadoTommy wrote:

I’m not trying to hijack the thread but you are obviously referring to me when you mentioned people “calling out” Professor X.

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I can’t imagine anyone could possibly narrow down the list of internet warriors who have ‘called out’ Professor X enough to refer to one single person.

You’re not the first, only, or last one, I’m sure. I think I’m going to call him out soon just so I don’t feel left out.

Then again, I’ve actually made progress in the gym, so I don’t have to. Oh well.

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[quote]wings_931 wrote:
<<< I refuse to believe that a machine can be anywhere as near as effective.

Free weights are paramount - FACT.
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Any damn method that puts your muscles intelligently under load will produce excellent results. The operative term is intelligently. Free weights are great and comprise probably 70% of what I do, but the human body doesn’t have a “I’ll decide how to respond by what kind of equipment is being used” gene.

Force them to do what they aren’t accustomed to and they WILL adapt. Machines, especially well designed plate loaded ones like HS, allow enormous overloading safely. I even think the whole “stabilizer muscle” thing, while having some validity is greatly overblown by people more enthused with theory than practice.

Shugart had a good piece a while back asking why a lot of really, REALLY big guys do all the shit a lot of small guys think is wrong in essence and concluded that hard, intense work was the answer. A conclusion that is manifestly correct.

I don’t argue with success no matter how it was achieved.

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
TornadoTommy wrote:

I’m not trying to hijack the thread but you are obviously referring to me when you mentioned people “calling out” Professor X.

I can’t imagine anyone could possibly narrow down the list of internet warriors who have ‘called out’ Professor X enough to refer to one single person.

You’re not the first, only, or last one, I’m sure. I think I’m going to call him out soon just so I don’t feel left out.

Then again, I’ve actually made progress in the gym, so I don’t have to. Oh well.
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The number is up to 187. You should jump in on this. I give out a bobble head version of myself to the 200th person to call me out on any of the following:

  1. There is no way you are a doctor. You post here too much.

  2. Why is everyone kissing Prof X’s ass? He’s just a guy like everyone else. By the way, did anyone else orgasm after reading CW’s latest article?

  3. How can you lift when you have 1600 posts?

and finally

  1. I train for function so don’t degrade me simply because I don’t want to weigh 300lbs. I weigh 120lbs because I can beat people up with my relative strength “fist of destruction” technique.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
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The number is up to 187. You should jump in on this. I give out a bobble head version of myself to the 200th person to call me out on any of the following:

  1. There is no way you are a doctor. You post here too much.

  2. Why is everyone kissing Prof X’s ass? He’s just a guy like everyone else. By the way, did anyone else orgasm after reading CW’s latest article?

  3. How can you lift when you have 1600 posts?

and finally

  1. I train for function so don’t degrade me simply because I don’t want to weigh 300lbs. I weigh 120lbs because I can beat people up with my relative strength “fist of destruction” technique.[/quote]

You forgot:

  1. What happened to Professors I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII and IX? Did you eat them?
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Hopefully this tread can be saved as a useful resource. X I was wondering about how you progress from your first set in an exercise to your last i.e set 1-4.

Currently when I am doing BB bicep curls I would start with just the bar then progress to my max weight for reps (6 at the mo)

It would look like this. 20kg-30kg-35kg-42.5kg {all for 6 reps}

Do you agree with this rep scheme or should I lift lighter for my 3 preceding sets and heavier on the last one. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

All the best OMC

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At one point this WAS a very interesting discussion. PX was sharing solid advice with anyone whom would ask. It was civilized, intelligent, inspiring, and all-round good shit.

Now this had devoed, into a god-forsaken-who-knows-what-shit-parade where this guy ( PX ) whom was just trying fucking help people out is put into a position where he has to justify certain aspects of his training.

This is fucking NITPICKING. PX has clearly accomplished more than most people ever will in bodybuilding, lack of competition history or not. Can’t people appreciate PX for what he his, and not bust their ass harder finding something wrong with his training, diet, physique, whatever-the-fuck than they do in the gym?

So PX is using machines, so what? Machines are not the same thing as BB, or DB, so what? PX’s goals are that of a bodybuilder. He is not trying to lift a certain amount of weight with a bar, or bells, he is trying to get big as hell.

This PX dude, IS NOT acting superior, so what’s with the attitude? He has stated HS is not a BB, or DB. Why is this so difficult for people to accept.

This is like giving Tiger Woods hell for only having a 300 # bench, for what are probably few reps. So what, TW, isn’t trying to bench shit loads, for like 5x10. He is a fucking golfer.

This is like giving Kevin Boothe shit, for not having a rad lat spread. Kevin Boothe is a NFL, Guard, he ain’t no Dorian Yates. He don’t want to be either.
Guess why? Yep, he’s a fucking NFL Guard.

If people just GOT to fucking judge this PX guy, then for shitsake do it according to HIS goals. Don’t impose your goals, or ideals onto another person.
Judge them according to their own goals.

After that a ??? for PX:

BTW, Professor X, do you pick a weight you can only perform for 3 reps of the desired number of sets, even with iso movements + just stick with it until you hit like 10 reps in each set. Or do you only do this with compounds? I do that, with everything and it kicks ass.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
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The number is up to 187. You should jump in on this. I give out a bobble head version of myself to the 200th person to call me out on any of the following:

  1. There is no way you are a doctor. You post here too much.

  2. Why is everyone kissing Prof X’s ass? He’s just a guy like everyone else. By the way, did anyone else orgasm after reading CW’s latest article?

  3. How can you lift when you have 1600 posts?

and finally

  1. I train for function so don’t degrade me simply because I don’t want to weigh 300lbs. I weigh 120lbs because I can beat people up with my relative strength “fist of destruction” technique.

You forgot:

  1. What happened to Professors I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII and IX? Did you eat them?
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  2. Why he calls himself Prof. if he is a doctor.

I think I want that bobblehead…

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[quote]LAMF wrote:
At one point this WAS a very interesting discussion. PX was sharing solid advice with anyone whom would ask. It was civilized, intelligent, inspiring, and all-round good shit.

Now this had devoed, into a god-forsaken-who-knows-what-shit-parade where this guy ( PX ) whom was just trying fucking help people out is put into a position where he has to justify certain aspects of his training.

This is fucking NITPICKING. PX has clearly accomplished more than most people ever will in bodybuilding, lack of competition history or not. Can’t people appreciate PX for what he his, and not bust their ass harder finding something wrong with his training, diet, physique, whatever-the-fuck than they do in the gym?

So PX is using machines, so what? Machines are not the same thing as BB, or DB, so what? PX’s goals are that of a bodybuilder. He is not trying to lift a certain amount of weight with a bar, or bells, he is trying to get big as hell.

This PX dude, IS NOT acting superior, so what’s with the attitude? He has stated HS is not a BB, or DB. Why is this so difficult for people to accept.

This is like giving Tiger Woods hell for only having a 300 # bench, for what are probably few reps. So what, TW, isn’t trying to bench shit loads, for like 5x10. He is a fucking golfer.

This is like giving Kevin Boothe shit, for not having a rad lat spread. Kevin Boothe is a NFL, Guard, he ain’t no Dorian Yates. He don’t want to be either.
Guess why? Yep, he’s a fucking NFL Guard.

If people just GOT to fucking judge this PX guy, then for shitsake do it according to HIS goals. Don’t impose your goals, or ideals onto another person.
Judge them according to their own goals.

After that a ??? for PX:

BTW, Professor X, do you pick a weight you can only perform for 3 reps of the desired number of sets, even with iso movements + just stick with it until you hit like 10 reps in each set. Or do you only do this with compounds? I do that, with everything and it kicks ass.

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Truth.

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[quote]Arioch wrote:

I think I want that bobblehead…[/quote]

Here ya go…

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[quote]n3wb wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I just looked it up:
http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/content.cfm/iso-lateralbenchpress

And starting resistance on those machines (the plate loaded machines, specifically the bench press) is only SEVEN POUNDS. That means it is pretty damn close to real weight so I am not sure why someone would devalue them or compare them to leg press machines.

Im not putting down the machine, I was checking out new gyms and I think they had that exact machine, the movement felt good and if I got a membership there I would use it.

1000lbs on a leg press is still 1000lbs its just the leverage and movement make it easier. thats why I compared the HS bench machine to a leg press.

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I haven’t been following this thread, but a 45 degree leg press would mean 1000 times sin 45 degrees, about 700 lbs.