Your genetic limit is much the same as your pain tolerance when lifting. You think you’ve reached your max, but when push comes to shove and you have your coach in your face pushing, you somehow muster 10 more reps.
Your so right. Gotta give that muscle no other choice but to grow!
Thank you everyone for the advice and also on the random thoughts posts too it’s really informative and interesting to read. I know my questions probably make me sound stupid but I’d like to think I’m a moderately intelligent dude and that bothers me quite a bit tbh that whole “you’re fucking stupid if you’re big” or the meathead thing. Because people judge a book by its cover or the part where they automatically think you’re going to be like super cocky or have a huge ego just because you have muscle. Annoying
One more thing, does anyone have a good carb supplement they would recommend to help me get more carbs it’s damn near impossible for me to eat that much and not fuck my guts up.
Another thing since I think it got skipped over but any comments on this cycle I posted above?
Gatorade
Hawaiian Punch
SUgar in Tea
Sugar in coffee
Pasta
Rice
Bread
Fruit
Starchy vegetables
If you really wanna go the supplement route, waximaize and vitargo, but I personally wouldnt.
Vitargo is the shit my man
I’ve taken the stuff and although I like it, it just costs too much compared to carbs from food.
Yeah, it makes a great intraworkout carb drink, but so does gatorade or some non-carbonated soft drink. Shit, Cytocarb (Maltodextrin?) used to be cheap too, and I think waximaize is cheap as hell when on sale.
I used to do pop tarts post workout before, but I don’t anymore. Knowing what I know now about preworkout nutrition, I should have tried preworkout pop tarts. I don’t like the taste tho.
I was just thinking of a carb supplement for days like yesterday when I had a lower carb intake and couldn’t physically eat anymore but I did much better today on carbs. Macros are sitting at 176g F, 256g C, and 289g P. Still low on carbs but getting up higher now for me. I’ll post some daily intake notes I wrote down if y’all can read my handwriting and understand my madness I wrote down
Oh also today was a rest day and I’m currently drinking a Powerade so more carbs from that. Tomorrow is my heavy leg day so I’ll be cramming the carbs all day until my afternoon workout. Here’s my workout split:
Sun: legs (heavy, low reps)
Mon: chest (heavy, low reps)
Tues: back (heavy, low reps)
Wed: shoulders/arms
Thur: legs (light, high rep)
Fri: chest (light, high rep)
Sat: rest
I’ve actually never had a pop tart in my life so I wouldn’t know about the taste.
Just looked up what a pop tart is, I don’t think I’ve ever had one
Wait seriously?
They sure as hell don’t taste like malva pudding! 
Image some artificial jam between two pieces of cardboard covered with hard powered sugar icing. 
My son loves them!
Yup 100% serious
Nice
Gross
Nice
Back to the gear topic real quick (don’t get me wrong I love talking about food) but what are some opinions on taking a lower dose of Nolva throughout the whole cycle like 20mg EOD? Should someone save their money and just keep it for the PCT only and then of course obviously keep an AI like adex on hand just in case
Why bother? Didnt you just say you werent going to do gear and that you’d focus on eating more instead?
Could you imagine the waste of money and negative ROI you’d get from using gear without dialing in your diet? There are mad dudes on this forum who look like shit despite being on gear
THIS!
(I can’t believe I’m posting in the pharma forum, I must be procrastinating…)
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but this is the #1 thing I’ve learned from TNation about using gear. If you don’t pass the “looks good” test (pun intended?) before taking gear, you’re not going to pass the “looks good” test after taking gear.
And as far as performance -if you’re average amongst your peers before taking gear, you’re going to be average amongst your new peers after taking gear.
Factor that into the decision.
@SOUL_FIGHTER yes I did say that but I was saying that I wasn’t going to do it for a while not that I wasn’t going to ever. I’m not going to right now because I am doing like you said dialing in my diet which y’all can say “I told you so” because I’ve been tracking my calories and getting between 3700 and 4000 a day for the passed week and I’m already up 4 lbs. I just finished my strength leg day and weighed myself after the workout and am sitting at 179.4lbs. I’m just curious and asking the gear questions so I have the knowledge for when I do hop on that’s all
@SOUL_FIGHTER one last thing, what is ROI?
Return on investment.
This thread taught me we have a LOT of children hanging out in the pharma forum.
How things have changed.
@iron_yuppie ah makes sense thank you
@Yogi1 well I apologise for my youth just wanted some wisdom is all
