Thank you @tb40 I may be one of those that needs to take appetite stimulating substances. But a quick update after my meals, it’s cuttently almost 2pm for me and I woke up a little late around 10am so been awake for 4 hours. In that time after weighting my food and doing the macros and calories I have only eaten 2500 calories so you have a very valid point that I may be overestimating but I still have time for more meals later after my afternoon gym sesh.
I noticed I got like 232 g of protein but only 145g of carbs so I need much more carbs I think but not 100% sure what amount to shoot for
Also if you’re doing the math and seeing I had over 100g of fat yeah I know it’s bad but I do that normally and still stay lean. All of my fats were from red meat and milk/dairy products
Actually on the contrary I have been reading every post and taking everything into consideration so thanks for the stereotype but you’re wrong. And to the other not pessimistic people like this guy I have decided you’re very right I do need to start doing a lot more weight on top of eating more so today was a fresh start. The main muscles I’ll do twice a week so legs chest back with one day being a heavy weight low reps and the other being lighter weight more rep hypertrophy days. That with added calories should help me get what I’m wanting, thank you all so much! I’ll keep you posted
One last update before later this evening after a full day of eating and watching my macros/calories.
I’m going to shoot for about 100g more of protein and around 200 g more carbs. My meals are going to be mainly chicken and rice so much leaner than my morning “pre workout” meals so less fat. With that being said and not having the exact fat amount on hand right this second just the protein and carbs alone will make me go from 2500 calories to 3700, much more than I usually get. Once again y’all were right lol
Yeah man, go on an aggressive bulk, get a lil soft, then dial back again.
It was easier for me to add in calories via carbs because proteins kept me full for too long. I could never imagine doing 2g per lb. That would be 380 for me, and about 340 for you. It would probably easier to sneak in the same calories via carbs, especially simple sugars.
What Soulfighter said…
Just get a gram of protein per pound of body weight, take in some healthy fats (advocado, olive oil, almonds, etc ) and fill the rest of your kcals with carbs.
The over abundance of protein could be a big part of your appetite problem, as it makes you feel satiated (full) with less food, and for a longer period of time.
Best of luck!
Okay thank you all I definitely need to dial the protein back because today’s workout was rougj with such low carbs and high protein. Stomach felt wat too full and like it was going to burst even tho I ate over an hour before my workout.
So I’m not going to do a cycle for a hot minute but what do you think of this:
Wk 1-12: test cyp 500mg (pin once a week)
Week 1-5: dbol 40mg to kickstart (10mg in AM, 20mg pre workout, 10mg PM)
On cycle support: 20mg nolva EOD
.25-.5 adex on hand for bloat/estrogenic sides
Milk thistle ED
PCT 2 weeks after last pin for 4 weeks: nolva 40/40/20/20
With adex on hand as well
Here is my take on the “genetic limit” shit - you’ll never know. Let’s say you train your balls off for 5 years and put on some appreciable mass then you stall out. Does that mean you’ve hit your GL? No. It means you need to change shit up. I hate the genetic limit BS. All it is is an excuse for guys to run gear because they think they can’t grow. Newsflash - almost everyone who “can’t grow” eats like a coked out model and doesn’t understand that pain tolerance is needed grow. I see some BS posts about 185 pound 6’ guys talking about genetic limits. Horse shit. Eat. Pound weights. Make your body grow.
Also let me say this - remember - your body does NOT want to put on muscle. It is metabolically expensive. It takes hard ass training after two years of beginning to actually grow. I see under training and under eating as the issue. Not genetic limits bullshit.
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Welcome to T-Nation, lol
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It’s clear that your problem is with the VOLUME of food you’re consuming. I try adding more calorie dense food into each meal. Focus on healthy fats (e.g. macadamia nut oil, olive oil, avocados, peanut butter etc…). Replace whatever liquid you drink with your meal with a protein shake…do whatever it takes to get the scale to start moving.
I feel like I need to share the Dave Tate video on how to gain weight here but since it’s mainly directed towards powerlifters I’m afraid it might not directly translate to your goal of becoming a pro BBer.
Have you considered hiring a coach? I mention that only because I was in a similar situation where I was convinced I understood nutrition and was doing the ‘right’ things to reach my particular goals and was failing to make progress no matter what I did. I finally decided that I wasn’t the expert I thought I was and hired a coach who quickly got my program turned around. Sometimes all it takes is for each of us to recognize that we aren’t always the smartest person in the room and to take a step back and solicit (and take) advice from someone else who just might be smarter.
If you weren’t already married…
This shit is priceless! Has to be my favorite video on how to gain weight!
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It really brings meaning to ‘dirty bulk’ doesn’t it?
Absolutely! But it does does put things into perspective. When start getting lazy about eating, I watch it again just as a pep talk!
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I didn’t know that steroids altered your skin pigmentation. Interesting.
are you saying the OP should read the entire post history of every member who contributes advice? The only reason I know erik is only 15 is because it was pointed out in this thread. There are so many members on this site who post regularly that I often forget who is who. Or I get people confused with each other. Now, if Erik had started his first post here with ‘I’m 15, so take this for what it is’ or whatever, that would be different. And actually, I strongly believe Erik should do that anytime he feels compelled to give ANY advice to lifters on this site who he hasn’t previously engaged in conversation. I often give a quick back story of relevant info when I create posts directed at new users on here. I think that’s an ETHICAL thing to do.
Anyway, I’ll address the OP now. OP: if you are squatting 315x3, then one of the following is true. Either your genetics actually suck, or you’re not close to your genetic limit. That’s not a good number at all, particularly after 9 years of training. None of your lifts would indicate to me that you are genetically gifted in any way. You can’t lift heavy weights, and according to you, your metabolism is a negative genetic quality. Which is funny, because I think the only reason you look relatively decent is because of that metabolism keeping you lean. To me, the ability to eat a lot and not get fat is a very positive thing.
as many as it takes to grow. Seriously. You’ve gotta figure that out for yourself, and I agree that carbs are definitely what needs to come up. I eat upwards of 700+ grams of carbs/day. I weigh about 25 lbs more than you.
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I’m currently at 500g and it sucks ass so 700g sounds like it sucks more ass.
How are you getting those 700 in? What’s your sources?
s’mores pop tarts, cheerios, rice, vegetables, fries, ice cream, regular sodas and whole milk, generally. I drink around a half gallon of the milk per day, I generally have chick fila for lunch, I eat pop tarts or cereal for breakfast most days. Dinner varies tremendously. The ice cream is not every day, but I try to eat some at least 3-4 days per week. And I drink a few sodas at work every day.
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I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve been more jealous.
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I fucking hate you so much!
Lol.
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