How Do You All Survived Adversity?

Commit a crime, go to jail.

Problem solved.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
This is not always true.

I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.

Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.

I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.

My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.

95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]
This is what we call your experience lol. That’s not what I’ve seen from most people I’ve encountered. But I’m sure since you did it that your made up stat is accurate haha.[/quote]

Read Harder…

“Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.”

And I’d agree with Captainoblivious…Im an Engineer.

Also, having kick-ass interviewing skills and being able to sell yourself is way more important that any networking. I call it a sheath of oportunity!

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Commit a crime, go to jail.

Problem solved. [/quote]

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Sometimes when the shit hits the fan you should just stop throwing it.

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My head just exploded.

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
This is not always true.

I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.

Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.

I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.

My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.

95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]
This is what we call your experience lol. That’s not what I’ve seen from most people I’ve encountered. But I’m sure since you did it that your made up stat is accurate haha.[/quote]

Read Harder…

“Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.”

And I’d agree with Captainoblivious…Im an Engineer.

Also, having kick-ass interviewing skills and being able to sell yourself is way more important that any networking. I call it a sheath of oportunity!

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Selling yourself and having great interview skills very very important.

Hiring people is harder than most people think.

On the other hand, I was working for a company and a buddy of mine needed a job. First, he is one of the most hardworking people I’ve every worked with. So I recommend they give him and a job. They interviewed him, and didn’t even check his references and gave him a job(65k a year job). And I’m not a heavy hitter or a big fish.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
This is not always true.

I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.

Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.

I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.

My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.

95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]
This is what we call your experience lol. That’s not what I’ve seen from most people I’ve encountered. But I’m sure since you did it that your made up stat is accurate haha.[/quote]

I have to agree. especially in the professional world, you may get a job completely based on your relation to someone else.

That is just the way the world works.

yeah, you can get around that…by being the better applicant. That is what minorities and women had to do for decades.

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Read Harder…

“Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.”

And I’d agree with Captainoblivious…Im an Engineer.

Also, having kick-ass interviewing skills and being able to sell yourself is way more important that any networking. I call it a sheath of oportunity!
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Read softer?

Different strokes for different folks. Nearly everyone we hire is from networking lol. Stalemated hahaha!

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.[/quote]

It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Networking is huge![/quote]

This is not always true.

I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.

Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.

I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.

My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.

95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]

I agree and have recently used careerbuilder to find a job, which as it turns out, is with an awesome company, close to home and all of that good stuff…

BUT- If using an online network of job hunting/employment agencies that match qualifications with employment criteria IS NOT networking then I don’t know what is.

Traditional networking type stuff has never worked very well for me. I know a lot of business owners and whatnot, but when what you have doesn’t match what they need you may as well go pound sand.

There are also some companies whom, depending on applicable regulatory compliance, absolutely cannot hire sons, brothers, nephews and yadda yadda yadda. But that is what owning another comp. that provides secondary services to the main company are for.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.[/quote]

It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Networking is huge![/quote]

This is not always true.

I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.

Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.

I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.

My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.

95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]

I agree and have recently used careerbuilder to find a job, which as it turns out, is with an awesome company, close to home and all of that good stuff…

BUT- If using an online network of job hunting/employment agencies that match qualifications with employment criteria IS NOT networking then I don’t know what is.

Traditional networking type stuff has never worked very well for me. I know a lot of business owners and whatnot, but when what you have doesn’t match what they need you may as well go pound sand.

There are also some companies whom, depending on applicable regulatory compliance, absolutely cannot hire sons, brothers, nephews and yadda yadda yadda. But that is what owning another comp. that provides secondary services to the main company are for.

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I heard a friend say that simply going to a certain school in Texas sets you up for better job opportunities which is why so many of them wear their college rings even if they have educations past college.

But I just heard that from a friend so I have no personal opinion of it.

Unemployment rate is 7.5% as of a post on yahoo mere minutes ago

[quote]kjmont wrote:
I am not usually the type to ask for advice…but what do I do? How do you all survive such circumstances.[/quote]

6 Harsh Truths That Will Make You a Better Person:

Props to DB for posting the video first:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I heard a friend say that simply going to a certain school in Texas sets you up for better job opportunities which is why so many of them wear their college rings even if they have educations past college.

But I just heard that from a friend so I have no personal opinion of it.[/quote]

That is a fact.

One company I worked for was straight forward about it. If you want to move up you go to Penn State. Whether for a bachelors or masters, you better have a piece of paper from Penn.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Commit a crime, go to jail.

Problem solved. [/quote]

this is the most simplest answer - dont listen to Coop, or the rest of them.

drink heavily, and listen to country music -

if you are a druggie, keep it up, and mebbe do some gay porn or something to support the habit.

there is no getting out of this, you dont have the time left in your life to get out of this hole.

oh, and do some foam rolling - that shit is black magic~

Definitely use Craigslist; Make an email template and attach a resume and send it to as many people as possible. Go to a Temp Agency and see what they have available, print out some resumes and hit up every place you can find… A quick and easy thing to get hired in is Security because of the turnover rate so maybe look into that as well.

New Jersey is not exactly a thriving working place depending on where you are, I used to live in Rock away doesn’t seem as easy to get a job there as it is in California but good luck!

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Commit a crime, go to jail.

Problem solved. [/quote]

drink heavily, and listen to country music

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Did this one for a couple months once. Heavy drinking requires training…

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

…Go to a Temp Agency and see what they have available…

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This.

I own and run a construction company and have used Labor Ready many times. They pay their employees daily.

Show up on time. Work hard. Don’t run your mouth.

More permanent work often time manifests itself if you just practice those three principles.[/quote]

What sort of construction work does your company do, Push?

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

…Go to a Temp Agency and see what they have available…

[/quote]

This.

I own and run a construction company and have used Labor Ready many times. They pay their employees daily.

Show up on time. Work hard. Don’t run your mouth.

More permanent work often time manifests itself if you just practice those three principles.[/quote]

Wise words.

Thanks for all the responses especially about the temp agencty and the construction company I am definitely going to give those a shot since they seem my best bet. Unfortunately I don’t trust craigslist the 5 times I’ve been on there for things, 3 of the times people tried to rip me off.

[quote]kjmont wrote:
Thanks for all the responses especially about the temp agencty and the construction company I am definitely going to give those a shot since they seem my best bet. Unfortunately I don’t trust craigslist the 5 times I’ve been on there for things, 3 of the times people tried to rip me off.[/quote]

yeah, stay away from the Casual Encounters.