How Can I Lower My Voice?

[quote]julia87 wrote:
What? Status, Power and Money are what attract me to guys? Too bad Ive never thought about any of those things when dating guys and Ive dated really great guys, I know a lot of shallow girls that do though. They all love genghis k too giggles I dont know why I thought of that[/quote]

It’s possible you’re an exception to the rule. It’s also possible you’re not aware of it because the human mind has evolved to be self-deceiving. It’s difficult for people to overcome hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.

When men are attracted to women they don’t think “The physiological condition of her facial features, breasts, and hindquarters are indicative of a high fertility level, thus enhancing the chances of successful reproduction and furthering the goal of propagating my genetic code.” They think “Mmmm…boobies”. But what are men attracted to? Physical features representing fertility.

What are women attracted to? Qualities that imply offspring support, which can take the form of money, physical strength, and/or simply the ability to remain committed. We may not be conscious of all this but the primal instincts are there.

So to try and tie this into the OP. Don’t worry about your high pitched voice. If someone makes fun of you, kick the everloving shit out of 'em and you’ll move up in the pecking order. Just a suggestion.

Talk from a lower spot in your body.

Diaphragm = deep, full
Chest = middle of the road
Throat = higher, reedy
Nasal = nerdy, jewish

You know when you inhale helium gas and your voice gets all high pitched?

Try inhaling a gas that is more dense than air. Like xenon gas. Just remember to stand on your head before you pass out so the gas can escape your lungs.

You should get about 10 seconds of deep-voice-edness out of that.

By the way, what happens to your voice when you inhale helium?

[quote]Chickenmcnug wrote:
You know when you inhale helium gas and your voice gets all high pitched?

Try inhaling a gas that is more dense than air. Like xenon gas. Just remember to stand on your head before you pass out so the gas can escape your lungs.

You should get about 10 seconds of deep-voice-edness out of that.

By the way, what happens to your voice when you inhale helium? [/quote]

Freon is good for this. Nice head rush too!

Don’t listen to the people that tell you not to worry about it. If it bothers you do something to fix it.

A high pitched voice could hurt you in job interviews, with girls etc., especially if it hurts your self confidence. It is not fair but it is reality.

Look for a voice coach or just practice on your own.

[quote]julia87 wrote:
EmperialChina wrote:
Professor X wrote:
In this pic, Alti Bautista, Ronnie Coleman’s girlfriend for the last couple of years, is the one on the right.

If this is the definition of doing poorly in the dating scene, I hope to do just as poorly.

Some of you have some serious issues if you think status and money don’t beat out just about every other trait you put value in yourself.

Exactly, guys think that women truly give a shit about their highlights, their forehead shape or whatever else. Women are generally attracted to traits that show some sort of status, dressing nice is not an internal trait and shows status whether or not you are “faking the funk.”

Status, Power, and Money are the biggest attraction, even over Tom Welling good looks as hard as it is to believe. I bet if Smallville’s superman had no personality and was a janitor he may get passing glances but what else? Ronnie may be huge, but you can’t say he doesn’t have status and probably some charm even if he has the voice of a 15 year-old cross country runner.

By the way for you guys who say your voice is so high can you post a audio file, I find it hard to believe.

What? Status, Power and Money are what attract me to guys? Too bad Ive never thought about any of those things when dating guys and Ive dated really great guys, I know a lot of shallow girls that do though. They all love genghis k too giggles I dont know why I thought of that[/quote]

You are right. Money and status are potent things and no one can deny they are important. But they are not the ONLY things that matter to girls that are WORTH dating. There are other important things too. It’s also a complicated thing.

Short of inheriting a lot of money and being born wealthy most guys who are succesful and prestigious have confidence, charisma, are smart, interesting. The same is true for women who achieve success in their own right and aren’t wealthy just because of being a hot piece of ass and marrying well.

The dude that is unemployed and still lives with his parents is quite simply a loser. It’s not an accident that this is where he is in life. Women are attracted to the traits that lead to status and money. Pretty fairly. And it’s natural to also want to be with someone where you’ll be comfortable and not struggling to make ends meet.

OF COURSE, there are girls that overtly and consciously decide they want the $5mil house and to be loaded. Such people have made status and wealth their ONLY priority.

[quote]Michael570 wrote:
julia87 wrote:
What? Status, Power and Money are what attract me to guys? Too bad Ive never thought about any of those things when dating guys and Ive dated really great guys, I know a lot of shallow girls that do though. They all love genghis k too giggles I dont know why I thought of that

It’s possible you’re an exception to the rule. It’s also possible you’re not aware of it because the human mind has evolved to be self-deceiving. It’s difficult for people to overcome hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.

When men are attracted to women they don’t think “The physiological condition of her facial features, breasts, and hindquarters are indicative of a high fertility level, thus enhancing the chances of successful reproduction and furthering the goal of propagating my genetic code.” They think “Mmmm…boobies”. But what are men attracted to? Physical features representing fertility.

What are women attracted to? Qualities that imply offspring support, which can take the form of money, physical strength, and/or simply the ability to remain committed. We may not be conscious of all this but the primal instincts are there.

So to try and tie this into the OP. Don’t worry about your high pitched voice. If someone makes fun of you, kick the everloving shit out of 'em and you’ll move up in the pecking order. Just a suggestion.[/quote]

Oh okay, so, Im decieving myself, great explanation to anyone with different opinions/viewpoints from yours
“Oh, your just delusional without your self knowing it”
Its Not important to me, money nor power. At All. As long as your psychologically there and love me, thats all Id want.

[quote]julia87 wrote:
Michael570 wrote:
julia87 wrote:
What? Status, Power and Money are what attract me to guys? Too bad Ive never thought about any of those things when dating guys and Ive dated really great guys, I know a lot of shallow girls that do though. They all love genghis k too giggles I dont know why I thought of that

It’s possible you’re an exception to the rule. It’s also possible you’re not aware of it because the human mind has evolved to be self-deceiving. It’s difficult for people to overcome hundreds of thousands of years of evolution.

When men are attracted to women they don’t think “The physiological condition of her facial features, breasts, and hindquarters are indicative of a high fertility level, thus enhancing the chances of successful reproduction and furthering the goal of propagating my genetic code.” They think “Mmmm…boobies”. But what are men attracted to? Physical features representing fertility.

What are women attracted to? Qualities that imply offspring support, which can take the form of money, physical strength, and/or simply the ability to remain committed. We may not be conscious of all this but the primal instincts are there.

So to try and tie this into the OP. Don’t worry about your high pitched voice. If someone makes fun of you, kick the everloving shit out of 'em and you’ll move up in the pecking order. Just a suggestion.

Oh okay, so, Im decieving myself, great explanation to anyone with different opinions/viewpoints from yours
“Oh, your just delusional without your self knowing it”
Its Not important to me, money nor power. At All. As long as your psychologically there and love me, thats all Id want.[/quote]

When I wrote “It’s possible you’re an exception to the rule” I wasn’t being sarcastic. Most guys would think today’s Powerful Image is attractive (she’s one hell of a fertile broad). Other guys would prefer Brad Pitt.

The rest of the post was an attempt to summarize aspects of evolutionary psychology theory in 100 words or less. It wasn’t really directed specifically at you. I’m just a fan of introspection in general.

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
You are right. Money and status are potent things and no one can deny they are important. But they are not the ONLY things that matter to girls that are WORTH dating. There are other important things too. It’s also a complicated thing.

Short of inheriting a lot of money and being born wealthy most guys who are succesful and prestigious have confidence, charisma, are smart, interesting. The same is true for women who achieve success in their own right and aren’t wealthy just because of being a hot piece of ass and marrying well.

The dude that is unemployed and still lives with his parents is quite simply a loser. It’s not an accident that this is where he is in life. Women are attracted to the traits that lead to status and money. Pretty fairly. And it’s natural to also want to be with someone where you’ll be comfortable and not struggling to make ends meet.

OF COURSE, there are girls that overtly and consciously decide they want the $5mil house and to be loaded. Such people have made status and wealth their ONLY priority.[/quote]

I agree with this and I think we have already come to the conclusion that julia isn’t the norm (at least as far as what she SAYS she likes). We have had girls on this site recently mention that they actually judge a guy by the shoes he wears because their mom told them so.

Most women, as in the ones I have come across, go for some sort of status above all else whether that be a guy’s perceived ability to get girls, the money he makes, or his position. Most are not simply looking for some guy who is “psychologically there”. In fact, it seems that the more “psychologically distant” you are, the better your chances are.

As far as how high someone’s voice is, Zap mentioned it may effect getting hired. I could see that happening if the person’s physical presence matched the voice. Otherwise, I don’t think it has all that much effect. I actually try to speak “softer” in some social situations (like meeting a patient for the first time) simply because I don’t want to make them uneasy. If I speak in my deeper range, I have had people act like they get nervous.

Ronnie Coleman has to be a verry happy man

Have you tried not getting kicked in the nuts?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
You are right. Money and status are potent things and no one can deny they are important. But they are not the ONLY things that matter to girls that are WORTH dating. There are other important things too. It’s also a complicated thing.

Short of inheriting a lot of money and being born wealthy most guys who are succesful and prestigious have confidence, charisma, are smart, interesting. The same is true for women who achieve success in their own right and aren’t wealthy just because of being a hot piece of ass and marrying well.

The dude that is unemployed and still lives with his parents is quite simply a loser. It’s not an accident that this is where he is in life. Women are attracted to the traits that lead to status and money. Pretty fairly. And it’s natural to also want to be with someone where you’ll be comfortable and not struggling to make ends meet.

OF COURSE, there are girls that overtly and consciously decide they want the $5mil house and to be loaded. Such people have made status and wealth their ONLY priority.

I agree with this and I think we have already come to the conclusion that julia isn’t the norm (at least as far as what she SAYS she likes). We have had girls on this site recently mention that they actually judge a guy by the shoes he wears because their mom told them so.

Most women, as in the ones I have come across, go for some sort of status above all else whether that be a guy’s perceived ability to get girls, the money he makes, or his position. Most are not simply looking for some guy who is “psychologically there”. In fact, it seems that the more “psychologically distant” you are, the better your chances are.

As far as how high someone’s voice is, Zap mentioned it may effect getting hired. I could see that happening if the person’s physical presence matched the voice. Otherwise, I don’t think it has all that much effect. I actually try to speak “softer” in some social situations (like meeting a patient for the first time) simply because I don’t want to make them uneasy. If I speak in my deeper range, I have had people act like they get nervous.[/quote]

Heres how I think:
In the end, when your dying, what would you think of more?

The power or wealth a person gave you, or the love and closeness? If it is what is to be the result, it is all that matters in the beginning to become true.

I do not expect to depend on someone else to make who I am, my personal identity, or to help me live whatever life I want-I make myself what I want to be, not someone else.

Im not a rare breed, I think that i think and id think other people think as well, regardless of what the “norms” are or other thoughts. You cares? You are who you are. So dont give me the:
“oh, well she is just Saying, they are just hollow words because she has boobies, and Ive seen how those booby people are, they just say one thing and do the other”

I guess I could not be a norm in that area, though Id think there are girls that dont bullshit out there, you and I just havent met any. My mom had borderline personality disorder among other things, she lied about her entire life to me-and most girls have been bitches to me yet my “friends” (?)

That doesnt mean I think all women are going to be that way. Everybody has differences, you cant just mark them down because of them being boobified…or fartified…or whatever -fied. I mean, its natural to be prejudiced about things but its also natural to think about how/those you judge too.

[quote]julia87 wrote:
Heres how I think:
In the end, when your dying, what would you think of more?

The power or wealth a person gave you, or the love and closeness? If it is what is to be the result, it is all that matters in the beginning to become true.

I do not expect to depend on someone else to make who I am, my personal identity, or to help me live whatever life I want-I make myself what I want to be, not someone else.

Im not a rare breed, I think that i think and id think other people think as well, regardless of what the “norms” are or other thoughts. You cares? You are who you are. So dont give me the:
“oh, well she is just Saying, they are just hollow words because she has boobies, and Ive seen how those booby people are, they just say one thing and do the other”

I guess I could not be a norm in that area, though Id think there are girls that dont bullshit out there, you and I just havent met any. My mom had borderline personality disorder among other things, she lied about her entire life to me-and most girls have been bitches to me yet my “friends” (?)

That doesnt mean I think all women are going to be that way. Everybody has differences, you cant just mark them down because of them being boobified…or fartified…or whatever -fied. I mean, its natural to be prejudiced about things but its also natural to think about how/those you judge too.[/quote]

My comment didn’t have shit to do with your ‘boobies’ and everything to do with what I hear from most women when they aren’t specifically answering the question, “What do you want from a man?”.

I already wrote that the way you portray yourself is against the norm and even gave examples we have heard right here on this forum from women about how what type of shoes a guy wears actually mean something about his personality.

There seem to be some women on this site who take any generalization whatsoever as an afront to their entire personal being. Does it come as a surprise to you that men get grouped into one large group of dogs much more often?

We all have different experiences, and mine have informed me that most women…unless they are well educated or extremely goal oriented…are gold diggers. Any attempt to convince me otherwise would require a shit load of women who don’t fit that category.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
julia87 wrote:
Heres how I think:
In the end, when your dying, what would you think of more?

The power or wealth a person gave you, or the love and closeness? If it is what is to be the result, it is all that matters in the beginning to become true.

I do not expect to depend on someone else to make who I am, my personal identity, or to help me live whatever life I want-I make myself what I want to be, not someone else.

Im not a rare breed, I think that i think and id think other people think as well, regardless of what the “norms” are or other thoughts. You cares? You are who you are. So dont give me the:
“oh, well she is just Saying, they are just hollow words because she has boobies, and Ive seen how those booby people are, they just say one thing and do the other”

I guess I could not be a norm in that area, though Id think there are girls that dont bullshit out there, you and I just havent met any. My mom had borderline personality disorder among other things, she lied about her entire life to me-and most girls have been bitches to me yet my “friends” (?)

That doesnt mean I think all women are going to be that way. Everybody has differences, you cant just mark them down because of them being boobified…or fartified…or whatever -fied. I mean, its natural to be prejudiced about things but its also natural to think about how/those you judge too.

My comment didn’t have shit to do with your ‘boobies’ and everything to do with what I hear from most women when they aren’t specifically answering the question, “What do you want from a man?”.

I already wrote that the way you portray yourself is against the norm and even gave examples we have heard right here on this forum from women about how what type of shoes a guy wears actually mean something about his personality.

There seem to be some women on this site who take any generalization whatsoever as an afront to their entire personal being. Does it come as a surprise to you that men get grouped into one large group of dogs much more often?

We all have different experiences, and mine have informed me that most women…unless they are well educated or extremely goal oriented…are gold diggers. Any attempt to convince me otherwise would require a shit load of women who don’t fit that category.[/quote]

oh i know you werent talking about my boobies. I was just stating what you just stated.

[quote]chadwickc2 wrote:
Does anybody know if I there are any supplements/prescriptions available to help expand my larnyx (voice box).[/quote]

Actually, the ‘larYNX’ is your voice box. ‘Larnyx’ is something people who want to change their voice without doing any research refer to. Thanks for the (clarification), though. It’s not as if anyone knowledgeable enough on the subject to help you out would know what that 9th grade A&P word refers to.

But, no, there aren’t. In fact, that’s just silly.

[quote]chadwickc2 wrote:
I know there are “exercises” to do, but I doubt this will help.[/quote]

No, it’s that you’d rather pop a pill than do a little work.

[quote]chadwickc2 wrote:
I want something that will change my voice at the source.[/quote]

Had you done any research on this matter, you would know what the “source” is.

There ARE exercises out there that can drastically improve the pitch, strength, and quality of your voice. They’re just not the type of exercises you find on THIS site.

[quote]chadwickc2 wrote:
I’m a pretty masculine guy, in great shape and, I often get comments about my looks.

I have one significant problem in dating arena though, my voice. Genetically I’m high pitched as a 12 year old. This is especially problematic whenever I sing songs or yell.

Does anybody know if I there are any supplements/prescriptions available to help expand my larnyx (voice box). I know there are “exercises” to do, but I doubt this will help. I want something that will change my voice at the source… [/quote]

Getting kicked in the nuts my help.

[quote]julia87 wrote:

Heres how I think:
In the end, when your dying, what would you think of more?

The power or wealth a person gave you, or the love and closeness? If it is what is to be the result, it is all that matters in the beginning to become true.

I do not expect to depend on someone else to make who I am, my personal identity, or to help me live whatever life I want-I make myself what I want to be, not someone else.

Im not a rare breed, I think that i think and id think other people think as well, regardless of what the “norms” are or other thoughts. You cares? You are who you are. So dont give me the:
“oh, well she is just Saying, they are just hollow words because she has boobies, and Ive seen how those booby people are, they just say one thing and do the other”

I guess I could not be a norm in that area, though Id think there are girls that dont bullshit out there, you and I just havent met any. My mom had borderline personality disorder among other things, she lied about her entire life to me-and most girls have been bitches to me yet my “friends” (?)

That doesnt mean I think all women are going to be that way. Everybody has differences, you cant just mark them down because of them being boobified…or fartified…or whatever -fied. I mean, its natural to be prejudiced about things but its also natural to think about how/those you judge too.[/quote]

I find your perspective very interesting, and I’m impressed that you pointed out how natural it is for human beings to see all things from the perspective of judgment. After all, the mind exists and was created only to judge.

[quote]conner wrote:
chadwickc2 wrote:
Does anybody know if I there are any supplements/prescriptions available to help expand my larnyx (voice box).

Actually, the ‘larYNX’ is your voice box. ‘Larnyx’ is something people who want to change their voice without doing any research refer to. Thanks for the (clarification), though. It’s not as if anyone knowledgeable enough on the subject to help you out would know what that 9th grade A&P word refers to.

But, no, there aren’t. In fact, that’s just silly.

chadwickc2 wrote:
I know there are “exercises” to do, but I doubt this will help.

No, it’s that you’d rather pop a pill than do a little work.

chadwickc2 wrote:
I want something that will change my voice at the source.

Had you done any research on this matter, you would know what the “source” is.

There ARE exercises out there that can drastically improve the pitch, strength, and quality of your voice. They’re just not the type of exercises you find on THIS site.[/quote]

I think it’s fair to say that “larnyx” was a simple typo. No reason to harp on it. Incorrect use of who/whom is a different story!!!

[quote]Michael570 wrote:

So to try and tie this into the OP. Don’t worry about your high pitched voice. If someone makes fun of you, kick the everloving shit out of 'em and you’ll move up in the pecking order. Just a suggestion.[/quote]

LOL, great advice!!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
We all have different experiences, and mine have informed me that most women…unless they are well educated or extremely goal oriented…are gold diggers. Any attempt to convince me otherwise would require a shit load of women who don’t fit that category.[/quote]

Which should lead anyone to conclude that it’s much better to be a hypermasculine, assertive guy with a great personality and tons of attitude, who gets to fuck his way through life, that someone who has the “opportunity” to marry a gold-digger courtesy of his bank account.

P.S: men who put two and two together and end up making the mental connection between their own abilities and their bank account will end up not really caring about the money.