How Can I Hit Depth Better?

[quote]goochadamg wrote:
Why’d you remove the video?[/quote]

It disgusts me.

[quote]brauny96 wrote:

[quote]goochadamg wrote:
Why’d you remove the video?[/quote]

It disgusts me.[/quote]

Me too. :wink: But leave it up. Someone’s form may look like that, and the replies you got will be helpful to them.

And on just to stay on topic, I’m looking forward to seeing you hit this weight deeper, and tighter, without your knees caving.

I know this has been said, too, but I agree with some of the other posters: you’re squatting too wide.

[quote]goochadamg wrote:

[quote]brauny96 wrote:

[quote]goochadamg wrote:
Why’d you remove the video?[/quote]

It disgusts me.[/quote]

Me too. :wink: But leave it up. Someone’s form may look like that, and the replies you got will be helpful to them.

And on just to stay on topic, I’m looking forward to seeing you hit this weight deeper, and tighter, without your knees caving.

Well I narrowed my stance up to where its confortable. My hips are extremely weak, so that my main focus.
I know this has been said, too, but I agree with some of the other posters: you’re squatting too wide.

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Leave it up brauny, that way everyone will see the changes in your formwhen you post your new vid in a couple of months.

[quote]Hanley wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]Kerley wrote:
sit back more, i apologize if someone already said this.[/quote]

Did you even bother to watch the video? This is NOT his problem.[/quote]

Generic squat advice ftw!!

If someone’s having trouble hitting depth with a wide stance raw squat, is sitting back more not just going to make them fall over?[/quote]

thats what i get for posting drunk!

[quote]Kerley wrote:

[quote]Hanley wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:

[quote]Kerley wrote:
sit back more, i apologize if someone already said this.[/quote]

Did you even bother to watch the video? This is NOT his problem.[/quote]

Generic squat advice ftw!!

If someone’s having trouble hitting depth with a wide stance raw squat, is sitting back more not just going to make them fall over?[/quote]

thats what i get for posting drunk![/quote]

How Irish!!

i’ve gotten away from unsolicited advice but i’m compelled to give some here. I would bet that if you were to video yourself from the side, the bar stays way in front of your hips the entire time. IMO, you need to get way tighter. bring the grip in some and get the elbows under the bar. doing so will “lock you into the lift”. to get your elbows under the bar you will have to arch your back, push your chest out and retract your scaps. doing these things get that bar as close to being over your hips as possible. to keep that position you contract your back much like the bottom position of a powerlifting bench. also think about someone standing in front of you with two pieces of rope tied to each elbow and they are pulling your elbows forward the entire time.

you’ve had people telling you that you need to force your knees out and get stronger hips. all good advice but the knees caving is a result of your body transferring the weight to your quads to help you finish the lift. all the forcing out of your knees won’t fix the major problem which is bar path.

as a raw squatter, i am constantly striving to keep the bar as close to over my hips the entire time as possible. There’s a lot of differing views on sitting back or not to sit back. I don’t sit back. if i sit back the weight automatically gets in front of me. What i do is first lock the bar into position by doing all the things i mentioned above. once my upper body is locked into place, i start my decent by squatting straight down. now i don’t drop down, i push my knees out hard building tension in my hips as i decend. i decend slowly building more and more tension in the hips as i go. once i hit depth i’m pushing as hard as i can out on the sides of my shoes with my feet. with all that tension built up i get a tremendious amount of pop out of the hole. i reverse the lift doing the same things. i force the knees out and hips through towards the bar.

here’s one of my squat vids. when i first started squatting i had every issue known to lifter. again… this is how I squat and just a recommendation. works for me though…

this is a vid of some recent reverse band work i did. this was a near max attempt for me. this is the most i’ve ever had on my back. with all the time i’ve spent working on the things i mentioned, the squat still remained very tight and the weight stayed over my hips throughout the lift.

Staley Training Systems- reverse band squat 805x1 +40lb PR - YouTube

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
i’ve gotten away from unsolicited advice but i’m compelled to give some here. I would bet that if you were to video yourself from the side, the bar stays way in front of your hips the entire time. IMO, you need to get way tighter. bring the grip in some and get the elbows under the bar. doing so will “lock you into the lift”. to get your elbows under the bar you will have to arch your back, push your chest out and retract your scaps. doing these things get that bar as close to being over your hips as possible. to keep that position you contract your back much like the bottom position of a powerlifting bench. also think about someone standing in front of you with two pieces of rope tied to each elbow and they are pulling your elbows forward the entire time.

you’ve had people telling you that you need to force your knees out and get stronger hips. all good advice but the knees caving is a result of your body transferring the weight to your quads to help you finish the lift. all the forcing out of your knees won’t fix the major problem which is bar path.

as a raw squatter, i am constantly striving to keep the bar as close to over my hips the entire time as possible. There’s a lot of differing views on sitting back or not to sit back. I don’t sit back. if i sit back the weight automatically gets in front of me. What i do is first lock the bar into position by doing all the things i mentioned above. once my upper body is locked into place, i start my decent by squatting straight down. now i don’t drop down, i push my knees out hard building tension in my hips as i decend. i decend slowly building more and more tension in the hips as i go. once i hit depth i’m pushing as hard as i can out on the sides of my shoes with my feet. with all that tension built up i get a tremendious amount of pop out of the hole. i reverse the lift doing the same things. i force the knees out and hips through towards the bar.

here’s one of my squat vids. when i first started squatting i had every issue known to lifter. again… this is how I squat and just a recommendation. works for me though…

this is a vid of some recent reverse band work i did. this was a near max attempt for me. this is the most i’ve ever had on my back. with all the time i’ve spent working on the things i mentioned, the squat still remained very tight and the weight stayed over my hips throughout the lift.

Staley Training Systems- reverse band squat 805x1 +40lb PR - YouTube

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Thanks meat. I appreciate it.

[quote]brauny96 wrote:

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
i’ve gotten away from unsolicited advice but i’m compelled to give some here. I would bet that if you were to video yourself from the side, the bar stays way in front of your hips the entire time. IMO, you need to get way tighter. bring the grip in some and get the elbows under the bar. doing so will “lock you into the lift”. to get your elbows under the bar you will have to arch your back, push your chest out and retract your scaps. doing these things get that bar as close to being over your hips as possible. to keep that position you contract your back much like the bottom position of a powerlifting bench. also think about someone standing in front of you with two pieces of rope tied to each elbow and they are pulling your elbows forward the entire time.

you’ve had people telling you that you need to force your knees out and get stronger hips. all good advice but the knees caving is a result of your body transferring the weight to your quads to help you finish the lift. all the forcing out of your knees won’t fix the major problem which is bar path.

as a raw squatter, i am constantly striving to keep the bar as close to over my hips the entire time as possible. There’s a lot of differing views on sitting back or not to sit back. I don’t sit back. if i sit back the weight automatically gets in front of me. What i do is first lock the bar into position by doing all the things i mentioned above. once my upper body is locked into place, i start my decent by squatting straight down. now i don’t drop down, i push my knees out hard building tension in my hips as i decend. i decend slowly building more and more tension in the hips as i go. once i hit depth i’m pushing as hard as i can out on the sides of my shoes with my feet. with all that tension built up i get a tremendious amount of pop out of the hole. i reverse the lift doing the same things. i force the knees out and hips through towards the bar.

here’s one of my squat vids. when i first started squatting i had every issue known to lifter. again… this is how I squat and just a recommendation. works for me though…

this is a vid of some recent reverse band work i did. this was a near max attempt for me. this is the most i’ve ever had on my back. with all the time i’ve spent working on the things i mentioned, the squat still remained very tight and the weight stayed over my hips throughout the lift.

Staley Training Systems- reverse band squat 805x1 +40lb PR - YouTube

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Thanks meat. I appreciate it.[/quote]

x2. very informative from the raw perspective.

brauny do you live in Waterloo? I train at the Popeyes on weber street with some older IPF lifters. You should come here if you want to get stronger.

[quote]schultzie wrote:
brauny do you live in Waterloo? I train at the Popeyes on weber street with some older IPF lifters. You should come here if you want to get stronger. [/quote]

No I live in Michigan, Id come for a session, but thats a 10 or more hour drive lol.

My bad, I though you were wearing some university logo on your clothes but it must have been just a similar one.

No expert here. Just wanted to add something to a minor point you brought up. Hip adductor machine 3x a week? I’m assuming that whoever told you this has reason to believe your adductors are weak … Why not try some sumo deadlifts, with an ultra wide stance?

[quote]njrusmc wrote:
No expert here. Just wanted to add something to a minor point you brought up. Hip adductor machine 3x a week? I’m assuming that whoever told you this has reason to believe your adductors are weak … Why not try some sumo deadlifts, with an ultra wide stance? [/quote]

Its easier for me to just do hip adductors than that.

Hey guys, Go to my new thread, I have the vid updated.