[quote]Hanley wrote:
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
[quote]brauny96 wrote:
I know it doesnt seem ass to grass, but its really damn close for me, if you see it or not I can feel when I bottom out and that squat was damn close.
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Ass to grass, buddeh…[/quote]
True ass to grass will only ever happen for someone with long legs. Stumpy leg fuckers like myself can never truly go a2g.[/quote]
lol ok, I always though a2g was when you just go till you bottom out.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
When you get in the gym, before you do any squatting, get on the birthing machines (aka hip abductor and hip extension) and get to work. The ability to hit proper death from a wide(er) stance and my squat overall was helped tremendously by getting those muscles stronger. [/quote]
Will do boss.
[quote]brauny96 wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
When you get in the gym, before you do any squatting, get on the birthing machines (aka hip abductor and hip extension) and get to work. The ability to hit proper death from a wide(er) stance and my squat overall was helped tremendously by getting those muscles stronger. [/quote]
Will do boss.[/quote]
Even better imo, no offense to anyone but I feel a little more squat specific, set a box to below parallel depth, double a mini band around knees, sit on box as if you were squatting on it, arch hard and do some knee outs as part of warm up.
To reach depth:
bring your stance in, too wide, you do not appear to have hips wide enough to support that stance, your hips will hate you in less than a year.
box squat and lower the box height gradually
don’t wear the knee wraps, save em for peaking and meets, you look like you have too much knee wrap for the weight you’re trying to squat and they’re wrapped in a way that’s going to keep you from making depth, sounds crazy i know and i may get ripped apart for it, but i don’t see the need for knee wraps for a set of 10 wrapped so tight that you lose feeling in your toes.
Slow down. I don’t mean take all day, but you don’t look like you own the bar, it’s owning you, knees don’t just cave in but no 1 rep looks the same. Become a machine, every rep perfect, or as close to it as you get. Remember, 5 pounds and 500 pounds are squatted the same way, one’s just a lot faster than the other, and if your raw, your max shouldn’t be as slow as you think. Own it.
Hope this helps, o and foam roll the crap out of your IT’s, glutes, adductors, and quads.
[quote]brauny96 wrote:
I might give the elevated heels a try, I guess I just dont want to go raw to get my raw strength up for my gear lifts, then go back to gear, wich will be double ply, and be all messed up, that being said, I am going to narrow my stance, and take the weight off for a while, unless its a fix I can make in a day. I am also going to start going exercises to bring up the strength in my hips. I will be posting vidoes to show you progress.[/quote]
Didn’t want to overlook this. Technique changes when you add gear. That’s just the way it is. Don’t try to train your raw squat like you would a geared squat. move your stance in, lower the weight and work on getting stronger. Personally, I think box squats, to parallel or maybe a little above, feel more like squatting in a suit. I can take my stance out wider and sit back more.
[quote]matsm21 wrote:
yea, go stupidly light for a few weeks and keep your form TIGHT. I’m talkin like 135x10, the following week, 185x10, etc. just to groove the form. keep the volume up, and sink it reeally deep. if you feel your hips are tight, try this www.defrancostraining.com/ask_joe/archives/ask_joe_08-10-03.html
worked great for me[/quote]
I recently started doing this as well and it really seem to be helping. Mom was wondering why the hell I was humping her bread roller though (I used it for foam rolling)…
Anyway, bread roller, PVC pipe or whatever, start foam rolling!
[quote]Matsa wrote:
[quote]matsm21 wrote:
yea, go stupidly light for a few weeks and keep your form TIGHT. I’m talkin like 135x10, the following week, 185x10, etc. just to groove the form. keep the volume up, and sink it reeally deep. if you feel your hips are tight, try this www.defrancostraining.com/ask_joe/archives/ask_joe_08-10-03.html
worked great for me[/quote]
I recently started doing this as well and it really seem to be helping. Mom was wondering why the hell I was humping her bread roller though (I used it for foam rolling)…
Anyway, bread roller, PVC pipe or whatever, start foam rolling![/quote]
Ive been foam rolling alot actually, I dont even use a faom roll for my back, I use a pvc pipe, the foam roll doesnt cut it anymore.
Kinda crouch down into a squat position with your legs a little above parallel and knees out, then bend forward at the hips and place your elbows on the inside of your knees to HOLD your knees out… Then, from there, squat down until you feel a stretch. Do this for a few sets of like 15-20 seconds, and make it your goal to make it deeper each time you do it.
Just remember to squat with the knees going over the toes. I would also do the squat stretch to loosen up the adductors(Squat down, push elbows out on the inside of your thighs) everyday until it becomes natural.
Till then, lighten the load until you are capable of full reps at that weight!!!
it could also be bar placement… every pic of guys on here squatting ATG has a very upright torso… a high bar placement and upright torso will help keep your hips down and help you get depth
Kind of off topic, but what band was that playing in the background, they sound familiar.
[quote]HynesKetchup wrote:
Kind of off topic, but what band was that playing in the background, they sound familiar.[/quote]
decast I think.
[quote]theBarzeen wrote:
it could also be bar placement… every pic of guys on here squatting ATG has a very upright torso… a high bar placement and upright torso will help keep your hips down and help you get depth[/quote]
Ive squatted 3 inches below parallel with almost an illegal low bar placement in the usapl. Bul ill give it a shot, I just dont want to have to do a goodmorning on the way up.
sit back more, i apologize if someone already said this.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
sit back more, i apologize if someone already said this.[/quote]
Did you even bother to watch the video? This is NOT his problem.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]Kerley wrote:
sit back more, i apologize if someone already said this.[/quote]
Did you even bother to watch the video? This is NOT his problem.[/quote]
Generic squat advice ftw!!
If someone’s having trouble hitting depth with a wide stance raw squat, is sitting back more not just going to make them fall over?
Hey everyone thank you a ton for all the advice, I appreciate it alot. I will put all this into action for tomorrows squat session, I am going to keep low weight for raw, and maybe take one heavy set to see how it looks heavy.
Lance Karabel is most likely coming up to our gym and all the equipped lifters are going to be there, so after my raw training, I might throw the suit on and take a couple sets at around 515.
It will all depend on how my raw squat looks, if need be, ill just squat for sets of 5 for 3 hours with 135, ive done it before for box squats.
Thanks again guys, I might delete that video, just to save a little face 
To repeat what has already been said: move stance in, concentrate on pushing knees out, and get some squat shoes with heels (I love my Safe Contenders). I used to squat in wrestling shoes and switching to the Contenders made hitting depth so much easier.
to say something that hasn’t been said (or atleast I didn’t see it) Stay TIGHT on the way down. You do good about half way down and then you loose all tightness and free fall to somewhere around parallel and then try catch yourself and shoot back up. If you need to release your hips for a second to get a little “bounce” out of the hole, that is fine, but you are all over the place…every rep looks different. You should be able to stop your squat and explode back up at any point.
Drop the weight (start with 135) and work on going deeper and staying tight all the way down and then exploding back up…every rep should look damn near identical. Then start adding some weight. It is better to check the ego and fix it now, than reinforcing bad habits because you aren’t willing to a plate or 2 off the bar.
that link i posted for DeFranco’s hip mobility drills is good, just scroll down a bit, you’ll see it
UPDATE 1/2/10
My squats just sucked. I was told I have these problems
My squat sucks
I am caving my knee in, even with 260
I dont stay tight at all
If I dont fix them, I wont be squatting when Im 40…
SOLUTION:
Hip adductor machine 3 times a week
Take off alot of weight(225for now) and do sets with great form, for a few weeeks
stay tighter, and smoother, my squat is anything but smooth and controlled.
Why’d you remove the video?