If I could fill up the whole universe with my muscles I totally would.
I’d get wicked pumps too.
I don’t know, guys. Maybe I’ll have to give Pete another shot. He just always came off as a bit full of himself. I might very well be mistaken. George is a fucking monster. He didn’t seem to perform as well in competition as he did when training from what I saw, though.
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]gigomoravac wrote:
Also this guy - Konstantin Konstantinov. [/quote]
Oh hell yea, KK is a fucking beast and one of my favorite lifters.
Also he oly lifts but Dmitri Klokov IMO might have the ideal physique ever and he does ridiculous shit like snatch grip 4 inch deficit deadlift 500 something for reps in oly shoes too yet. haha[/quote]
I honestly think that if attracting the opposite sex is your goal, Klokov’s build is where you’d want to be.
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]flch95 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
How about not a physical look but what you HAVE to do to stay there. For example for me too big would be having to eat 4,000 cals a day and force food to maintain that size. [/quote]
Even if that puts at only 180lbs??[/quote]
That’s kind’ve a dumb limit to put on it because some people are very active (demanding job etc) before I started my cut I maintained 215 @ 4300 calories and wasn’t even that active outside of the gym besides walking a few miles a day.[/quote]
4000 was just an arbitrary number,what i meant was more like eating when you aren’t hungry etc and forcing meals in and so on.
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]gigomoravac wrote:
Also this guy - Konstantin Konstantinov. [/quote]
Oh hell yea, KK is a fucking beast and one of my favorite lifters.
Also he oly lifts but Dmitri Klokov IMO might have the ideal physique ever and he does ridiculous shit like snatch grip 4 inch deficit deadlift 500 something for reps in oly shoes too yet. haha[/quote]
I forgot about him, he is olympic lifter but he looks like bodybuilder.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]gigomoravac wrote:
Also this guy - Konstantin Konstantinov. [/quote]
Oh hell yea, KK is a fucking beast and one of my favorite lifters.
Also he oly lifts but Dmitri Klokov IMO might have the ideal physique ever and he does ridiculous shit like snatch grip 4 inch deficit deadlift 500 something for reps in oly shoes too yet. haha[/quote]
I honestly think that if attracting the opposite sex is your goal, Klokov’s build is where you’d want to be.[/quote]
I agree.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
When it affects your everyday life…[/quote]
To get really big REQUIRES you to make it a large part of your life.[/quote]
I don’t mean the training and eating. I mean the size you are affects breathing, sleeping, bathing, playing with your kids, ect.
[quote]setto222 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
When it affects your everyday life…[/quote]
To get really big REQUIRES you to make it a large part of your life.[/quote]
I’m sure he meant it in the sense of not being able to do certain activities of daily living. (ex: can’t wipe own ass)[/quote]
Ding ding.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think when I first hit this weight, it was a hassle. That was years back though and I am carrying way more muscle now vs body fat at that same weight. My conditioning is way better than it has been…mostly because I changed how I trained since meeting with CT.
[/quote]
How did your training change after you met CT? I’m sorry if you’ve covered this somewhere else but I’ve read through that whole thread about how you train and I don’t remember seeing it.
[quote]Steve-O-68 wrote:
Too big is when women’s "Ooooh"s change to "Ewwww"s. [/quote]
If you’re doing this purely for the poon, it doesn’t take much in reality. For the average guy starting out at ~165 or whatever, all you really need is to secure your noob gains of ~20lbs or whatever and that’s enough to see a difference in their reactions.
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
I don’t know, guys. Maybe I’ll have to give Pete another shot. He just always came off as a bit full of himself. I might very well be mistaken. George is a fucking monster. He didn’t seem to perform as well in competition as he did when training from what I saw, though. [/quote]
Well he’s a young guy, I bet he just matured some from his early videos lol.
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
When it affects your everyday life…[/quote]
To get really big REQUIRES you to make it a large part of your life.[/quote]
I don’t mean the training and eating. I mean the size you are affects breathing, sleeping, bathing, playing with your kids, ect. [/quote]
Dude, do you know how hard it is for me to wash my back? It wouldn’t happen without a back scrubber.
I am ok with that.
You seem not to be…which is ok…but it probably won’t be the defining factor in whether to get bigger or not…needing a back brush.
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think when I first hit this weight, it was a hassle. That was years back though and I am carrying way more muscle now vs body fat at that same weight. My conditioning is way better than it has been…mostly because I changed how I trained since meeting with CT.
[/quote]
How did your training change after you met CT? I’m sorry if you’ve covered this somewhere else but I’ve read through that whole thread about how you train and I don’t remember seeing it.
[/quote]
When at my leanest, I was training twice a day with no additional cardio…but I didn’t rest much at all between sets.
It is really that movement to different exercises instead of sitting there resting for 5 min that did most of the conditional work.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]flch95 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
How about not a physical look but what you HAVE to do to stay there. For example for me too big would be having to eat 4,000 cals a day and force food to maintain that size. [/quote]
Even if that puts at only 180lbs??[/quote]
That’s kind’ve a dumb limit to put on it because some people are very active (demanding job etc) before I started my cut I maintained 215 @ 4300 calories and wasn’t even that active outside of the gym besides walking a few miles a day.[/quote]
4000 was just an arbitrary number,what i meant was more like eating when you aren’t hungry etc and forcing meals in and so on. [/quote]
Dude, that is how I hit 200lbs the first time.
I know you are looking at this as a guy who used to be heavier, but for some of us, forcing meals down is the ONLY way to get really big.
In effect, it seems we have people who define relatively normal discomfort seen when trying to push your body into new areas of conditioning…as too much to keep pushing.
Shit, there won’t be any really big people left soon if that is the common sentiment lately.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
In effect, it seems we have people who define relatively normal discomfort seen when trying to push your body into new areas of conditioning…as too much to keep pushing.
Shit, there won’t be any really big people left soon if that is the common sentiment lately.[/quote]
I don’t see it personally as a case of not wanting to push myself to achieve my goals, just that being that really big isn’t my goal in the first place. I don’t know if that is how others in this thread feel, but it seems like my opinion is shared by a few.
My goals aren’t just to become bigger/stronger/leaner, but also faster, more agile, more flexible, fitter and healthier. There comes a point where chasing any one of these individual sub-goals too far is detrimental to the other goals.
However, this is just my personal goal, and I’m sure there are plenty of others out there who want to pursue size over all else.
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
In effect, it seems we have people who define relatively normal discomfort seen when trying to push your body into new areas of conditioning…as too much to keep pushing.
Shit, there won’t be any really big people left soon if that is the common sentiment lately.[/quote]
I don’t see it personally as a case of not wanting to push myself to achieve my goals, just that being that really big isn’t my goal in the first place. I don’t know if that is how others in this thread feel, but it seems like my opinion is shared by a few.
My goals aren’t just to become bigger/stronger/leaner, but also faster, more agile, more flexible, fitter and healthier. There comes a point where chasing any one of these individual sub-goals too far is detrimental to the other goals.
However, this is just my personal goal, and I’m sure there are plenty of others out there who want to pursue size over all else. [/quote]
We have virtually identical goals.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]flch95 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
How about not a physical look but what you HAVE to do to stay there. For example for me too big would be having to eat 4,000 cals a day and force food to maintain that size. [/quote]
Even if that puts at only 180lbs??[/quote]
That’s kind’ve a dumb limit to put on it because some people are very active (demanding job etc) before I started my cut I maintained 215 @ 4300 calories and wasn’t even that active outside of the gym besides walking a few miles a day.[/quote]
4000 was just an arbitrary number,what i meant was more like eating when you aren’t hungry etc and forcing meals in and so on. [/quote]
Dude, that is how I hit 200lbs the first time.
I know you are looking at this as a guy who used to be heavier, but for some of us, forcing meals down is the ONLY way to get really big.[/quote]
Yes. And it’s a daily battle, especially when your appetite doesn’t want to cooperate. If I don’t consciously remember to eat enough, I won’t naturally eat enough. Maybe this will get better/easier as I get bigger, but so far that’s not been the case.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
In effect, it seems we have people who define relatively normal discomfort seen when trying to push your body into new areas of conditioning…as too much to keep pushing.
Shit, there won’t be any really big people left soon if that is the common sentiment lately.[/quote]
I don’t see it personally as a case of not wanting to push myself to achieve my goals, just that being that really big isn’t my goal in the first place. I don’t know if that is how others in this thread feel, but it seems like my opinion is shared by a few.
My goals aren’t just to become bigger/stronger/leaner, but also faster, more agile, more flexible, fitter and healthier. There comes a point where chasing any one of these individual sub-goals too far is detrimental to the other goals.
However, this is just my personal goal, and I’m sure there are plenty of others out there who want to pursue size over all else. [/quote]
We have virtually identical goals. [/quote]
I used to be faster, more agile, more flexible, and fitter… but now I want to be bigger and stronger. I’d be ok with keeping my current leanness.
At this point though, mentally it’s much easier for me to just go out and push myself to run several miles over rolling hills and keep increasing that pace week over week… than it is for me to force down the protein and calories that keep me growing in size.
They’re just different challenges, based on different histories.
[quote]furo wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
In effect, it seems we have people who define relatively normal discomfort seen when trying to push your body into new areas of conditioning…as too much to keep pushing.
Shit, there won’t be any really big people left soon if that is the common sentiment lately.[/quote]
I don’t see it personally as a case of not wanting to push myself to achieve my goals, just that being that really big isn’t my goal in the first place. I don’t know if that is how others in this thread feel, but it seems like my opinion is shared by a few.
My goals aren’t just to become bigger/stronger/leaner, but also faster, more agile, more flexible, fitter and healthier. There comes a point where chasing any one of these individual sub-goals too far is detrimental to the other goals.
However, this is just my personal goal, and I’m sure there are plenty of others out there who want to pursue size over all else. [/quote]
I understand that…I am just pointing out that it seems that many of you are after this “all around athlete” goal…when this is IMPOSSIBLE. You aren’t Captain America…or even Bo Jackson.
Regardless of what you want to do well in life, trying to be “all things” will leave most just running inc circles.
Mind you, that is NOT saying anything bad about your goal…just showing I see a lot of people now with this goal…but very few who actually become outstanding in any area after several years pass.
In my honest opinion, I think many have this goal now because that is what you have been told you are supposed to want…which is more a manufacture of the fitness industry.
It is way easier as a personal trainer to get someone ripped…than get them gigantic and ripped.