How Big is Too Big?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
When it affects your everyday life…[/quote]

To get really big REQUIRES you to make it a large part of your life.[/quote]

I think he meant it more in the way of being too big interfering with the way you function in your everyday life and activities. And YES it does happen. When I was 240 every days tasks were much more difficult, I could do many of the activities that my wife wanted to do and the likes.

An IFBB pro bodybuilder that I train often complains that when he is at his biggest he often has a head rush when he stand up from tying his shoes and a lot of big guys suffer from sleep apnea which obviously screws up your quality of life.

Sure we could be hardcore about this and say that it’s the cost of being big but the fact is that it does make it harder to function like a normal person (and don’t give me that “I don’t want to be normal” crap ;), not being able to function or do things that you’d like to do sucks regardless of your opinions).

Now, to be fair not everybody is affected by this. A strongman competitor (strongest man in Canada, top 10 in the world) is huge and functions quite well… so it really does depend on the person.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
This to me is about ideal, Dan Green one of the best powerlifters to ever live…also an amazing physique.

The density is unreal.

I believe he is around 230-240 here.

Dez would know better than me.[/quote]

His delts almost look syntholed they stand out so much.[/quote]

That is synthol…and I try to stay away from that debate.[/quote]

Altough it does look like it, the guy is a high level powerlifter, not bodybuilder. Synthol would actually be detrimental to a powerlifter… it would increase the risk of injuries in the bench press and mobility in the squat (to grab the bar). So I honestly doubt that it is synthol even though it looks like it.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]brandon76 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
This to me is about ideal, Dan Green one of the best powerlifters to ever live…also an amazing physique.

The density is unreal.

I believe he is around 230-240 here.

Dez would know better than me.[/quote]

His delts almost look syntholed they stand out so much.[/quote]

That is synthol…and I try to stay away from that debate.[/quote]

The dude in the picture is synth or in general you meant?
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The dude is a powerlifter…oil has ZERO benefit for him.

X swung and missed.[/quote]

Not only does it have zero benefits it is actually detrimental and can impair performance an increase the risk of injuries.

As long as I can practice BJJ then I don’t care how big or small I am. My last tournament I grappled at 215, and I am performing better on the mat now at 235. Any bigger than this and I can see it becoming detrimental to my performance on and off the mat. I like to turn heads but I’d rather be athletic and functional.

You’re too big when finding clothes that fit becomes a headache

300lbs. I hate to throw out a number as it can look completely different on individual body types, but generally speaking, when someone gets to this sort of size (excluding extremely tall folks), society will just think you are a freak.

I am in agreement that Dan Green has an awesome physique, ripped powerlifters look great.

[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
You’re too big when finding clothes that fit becomes a headache[/quote]

I used to think that, but I’m at that stage now and nowhere near where I want to be in terms of physique. Doesn’t help that in France an Large is a UK Medium, etc.

A lot of brands only go up to XXL here and that’s getting a bit neat across the back and shoulders, either that or they fit the shoulders but are designed to fit obese guts.

Needed to get that off my chest :wink:

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

Ideal for me[/quote]

Agreed I love his look. Plus his freaky veins

For me frame size has to be taken into account. I think many of the ifbb pros are too big. They just look stupid huge. They are tiny yet 250 and semi shredded I say that because of their disturbing guts. But now Tony Freeman or Ced M look pretty good to me but they are taller. For me and my frame I am guessing I will be happy around 225-235 ish and single digit bf. but I am tall and lanky.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
When it affects your everyday life…[/quote]

To get really big REQUIRES you to make it a large part of your life.[/quote]

I’m sure he meant it in the sense of not being able to do certain activities of daily living. (ex: can’t wipe own ass)[/quote]

Please let HIM answer that though.

I want to know what HE thinks, not what other people think he thinks.[/quote]

Fair enough (i guess?). Was trying to be helpful :slight_smile:

I might as well add what I think is “too big”: Not being able to live your life the way you would want to. When size becomes a hindrance.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
I don’t think theres a point where you’re ‘‘too big’’, however I assume that having to down so many calories to maintain a crazy size, probably gets cumbersome once you reach a certain point.[/quote]

Shit, sometimes, you get tired of shoveling food in your mouth. I get like that now.

I think that is why focused on the “discomfort” comments. Honestly, to have the kind of size that people stare at, you will have some “discomfort” along the way…quite a bit of it in some cases.

Taking 5 shits a day can gt tiresome.[/quote]

In your opinion, how big is too big?

Serious question.

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I personally would base it on medical condition alone…not even “fitness level”.

Public perception changes with time meaning it is illogical to base all your actions on it.

I think if you are with the right girl, i you want to be 300lbs and 6% body fat, if it isn’t killing you, she will be supportive of it…or you need to drop kick her.

If you have sleep apnea every night at 295lbs but don’t at 270lbs, you are “too big”.

Other than that, the question was asked to understand the world you all live in.

Do you allow others to dictate your perception of yourself and your own goals…or are you living for yourself and those you love alone.[/quote]

Hmmm…I really like and agree with just about everything here. Well put.

[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
You’re too big when finding clothes that fit becomes a headache[/quote]

Well then I am fucking too big. Clothes are a bitch.

Too big is when you start sharing too many similarities that fat people have.

How about not a physical look but what you HAVE to do to stay there. For example for me too big would be having to eat 4,000 cals a day and force food to maintain that size.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
to have the kind of size that people stare at[/quote]
Understand that that is “too big” to many, many people. If it’s not to you, cool. But it is to many, and it certainly is “too big” to society.[/quote]

I get stared at. I don’t consider myself “too big”.[/quote]

I think you protest too much…

Prof, everyone thinks you are too big.

Does that make you feel good?

I think health is your No. 1 priority, if that is in danger it’s time to scale things back, saying that BF% should be included and that should be kept at a healthy level. Health is a big umbrella and it covers a lot of things.

I’m not sure if it’s mentioned but flexibility & mobility are what I would consider to be a big thing.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]brandon76 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
This to me is about ideal, Dan Green one of the best powerlifters to ever live…also an amazing physique.

The density is unreal.

I believe he is around 230-240 here.

Dez would know better than me.[/quote]

His delts almost look syntholed they stand out so much.[/quote]

That is synthol…and I try to stay away from that debate.[/quote]

The dude in the picture is synth or in general you meant?
[/quote]

The dude is a powerlifter…oil has ZERO benefit for him.

X swung and missed.[/quote]

Not only does it have zero benefits it is actually detrimental and can impair performance an increase the risk of injuries.[/quote]

Which is why knee jerk assessments need to be avoided…by everybody…myself included.

Here are some phrases that I will never say:

1- “I make too much money.”
2- “Waiter, can you take this steak back, it is simply too big.”
3- “Those boobs are too big.”
3.5- “There is too much junk in that trunk.”
4- “The tires on my truck are too big.”
5- “Give me the .22 because that .40 is too big.”
6- “That deer is nice and all, but it would look better on the wall if it had a smaller rack.”
7- “Naw man, put those tall boys back and get the 6er of ponies.”
8- “I have got to do something to get rid of all of these muscles.”

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
You’re too big when finding clothes that fit becomes a headache[/quote]

Well then I am fucking too big. Clothes are a bitch.[/quote]

I’ve been too big for a long time if going by that.

Shit, my feet are too big too.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
You’re too big when finding clothes that fit becomes a headache[/quote]

Well then I am fucking too big. Clothes are a bitch.[/quote]

I’ve been too big for a long time if going by that.

Shit, my feet are too big too.[/quote]

One of the funniest conversations ever was when I got fitted for a suit about 3 months ago for my sister’s wedding. The guy was getting frustrated after about 4 jackets trying to get the right size to fit me with some comfort. His measurements weren’t correlating exactly to take into account the thickness like usual I assume.