How Big Can You Get Naturally?

[quote]ghost87 wrote:
I had my body fat taken in June,via a “Bod Pod.” It was fairly accurate, since I estimated I was around 8% and the Pod calculated the following figures. Based on what I see in the mirror, I estimated the high singe digits for body fat. I’ve competed before, so I good knowledge of how lean I can be.

Height: 72’
Weight: 203.4
Percent fat: 6.6%
Percent lean: 93.4%

Yes, it’s possible to be over 6 feet and have single digits in body fat. Is it hard- yes! I don’t eat junk food, eating a clean diet nearly all the time.

My caloric range is about 2800-3000 calories daily. [/quote]

That’s really good. It also puts you right where the calculator predicted I believe right?

And for the “call out” guy, that means you haven’t done anything. Thanks.

[quote]Guardian58 wrote:

And for the “call out” guy, that means you haven’t done anything. Thanks.
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  1. I never made claims to have done anything.
  2. You are critiquing others from the safety of anonymity. Which makes you a coward. Those that don’t have the balls to be judged, shouldn’t be judging.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Guardian58 wrote:

And for the “call out” guy, that means you haven’t done anything. Thanks.

  1. I never made claims to have done anything.
  2. You are critiquing others from the safety of anonymity. Which makes you a coward. Those that don’t have the balls to be judged, shouldn’t be judging.

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Uh no. People here claimed that the calculator was bullshit then talked about how they passed the measurments within a couple of years all so easily. Casey Butt asked people to send proof. I was wondering if anyone did. The rest of your garbage makes no sense. If you weren’t one of the ones with the sack to step up then shut up. No one asked you.

[quote]Guardian58 wrote:
No one asked you.
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No one should feel compelled to answer you. Who the fuck are you? A faceless internet coward, that is who.

At least Casey has pictures up.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Guardian58 wrote:
No one asked you.

No one should feel compelled to answer you. Who the fuck are you? A faceless internet coward, that is who.

At least Casey has pictures up.[/quote]

Why does it matter what I look like? I could be 150 fat or 225 ripped. It doesn’t matter you idiot and apparently can’t comprehend what I am asking.

I never questioned the legitimacy of the calculator. I asked if anyone here who said it was bullshit actually responded to his request to prove him how wrong he was. If you had no stake in either, then STFU. Understand?

[quote]Guardian58 wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Guardian58 wrote:
No one asked you.

No one should feel compelled to answer you. Who the fuck are you? A faceless internet coward, that is who.

At least Casey has pictures up.

Why does it matter what I look like? I could be 150 fat or 225 ripped. It doesn’t matter you idiot and apparently can’t comprehend what I am asking. [/quote]

It matters because you are calling people out. It really is simple. If you haven’t accomplished anything, what right do you have to call others out?

It’s funny you resort to calling me an idiot. It really makes me chuckle, because the irony is astounding.

But you have no stake in this other than trolling, so why don’t you STFU?

I can do this all day, and until you share with the class your accomplishments, you have no place to ask others to share theirs. Simple, understand?

The fact is, you bumped this thread to troll this forum. So you can expect no one to give you shit, especially when you don’t offer the same information you so rudely demand.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

It matters because you are calling people out. It really is simple. If you haven’t accomplished anything, what right do you have to call others out? [/quote]

I didn’t call a single person out. I asked if anyone actually was able to prove this theory wrong.

Actually it’s not. I haven’t posted anything other than asking if anyone proved what Casey wrote as wrong and accepted his challenge. You are an idiot because you don’t comprehend that.

I said in the first post I wasn’t sure how I ended up in this thread. But I was curious, since so many said it was BS, if anyone came forward with proof of that.

Maybe you should get your thong out of it’s knot stick boy.

[quote]Guardian58 wrote:
You are an idiot because you don’t comprehend that.[/quote]

Here is that irony thing popping up again.

LOL, it’s laughable how hard you are trying.

[quote]I said in the first post I wasn’t sure how I ended up in this thread. But I was curious, since so many said it was BS, if anyone came forward with proof of that.

Maybe you should get your thong out of it’s knot stick boy.
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Stick boy? It’s funny, I can’t make any stabs at your physique, or lack there of, because you are a coward. Hmmmmmmm…

But keep judging me, it makes you look oh so credible. Keep putting down others when you are too much of a coward to present yourself to be judged.

You are nothing but a troll looking to start shit.

Why should I be judged when I’m not the one who mouthed off about how the calculator was bullshit? Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?

[quote]Guardian58 wrote:
Why should I be judged when I’m not the one who mouthed off about how the calculator was bullshit? Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?[/quote]

Why should you have any place to ask people to come forward so you can judge them, regardless of what they said about the calculator, when you haven’t come forward yourself?

Are you REALLY that fucking stupid?

Damn, did your mother have any children that lived???

I never asked to JUDGE ANYONE you fucking moron. I asked if anyone met Casey’s challenge. THAT’S IT!

What part of that don’t you fucking get?

And I can ask because it’s a public fucking forum. You really are a complete fucktard.

[quote]andrew_live wrote:
Bod Pod eh? where the hell do you go to jump into one of those. Congrats on your stats though. 3000 calories a day on a clean diet must be hard as hell. Every time I start eating really clean I lose a lot of weight and my lifts all go down.[/quote]

They actually come to my gym every 3 months. I bet there is a gym near you that they are affiliated with. The last time they came to mine, I was unpleasantly surprised to find that after 3 months of training, I had only gained a little over 1 pound of muscle.

@Prof X:

I really dislike your view of the people on here… I wont deny that most of the people here (myself included) don’t look like weight lifters/bodybuilders, but I disagree with your view of people here being weekend warriors. I don’t know where you get the idea people workout twice a week? I know lots of guys on here more advanced than myself who train 4x a week consistently and yeah they don’t look like you or the more elite lifters here but they’re progressing.

How do you expect anyone to look like you or any of the other guys when most people here have been working out < 3years?

I wont know how big I can get until I get there. It’s kind of exciting.

[quote]Guardian58 wrote:
Damn, did your mother have any children that lived???[/quote]

LOL. The apex of your argument is really not that original, nor is it creative at all.

You can troll better than this man, I know you got it in ya.

LOL. How is asking people to come forward not a call out to judge them? You are king decider of reading comprehension, so I assume you noticed no one posted pictures as you read the thread. Therefore you knew no one came forward, therefore you were doing one of three things:

  1. calling out other people, without public progress yourself
  2. trolling
  3. Both

So what were you looking to achieve if not judge? Oh that’s right, you were looking to judge whether what they said was accurate or the calculator was accurate. At which point you would have shit on one or the other.

You can’t talk your way out of the truth man. It is typically impossible.

Why you think people should come forward publicly at your demand, when you have not yourself shown any progress what-so-ever.

Right, therefore make your progress public, before you demand others do the same. How is this not being comprehended?

Whaaaaaaa. Cry some more that you got called out being an assface. It is entertaining.

This fucking study and topic has been beat to death on this board.

Also if you are overly concerned with what you CANNOT achieve (ie. this calculator), this may not be the board for you. The “what CAN I achieve” attitiude typically dominates.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Guardian58 wrote:
Damn, did your mother have any children that lived???

LOL. The apex of your argument is really not that original, nor is it creative at all.

You can troll better than this man, I know you got it in ya.

I never asked to JUDGE ANYONE you fucking moron. I asked if anyone met Casey’s challenge. THAT’S IT!

LOL. How is asking people to come forward not a call out to judge them? You are king decider of reading comprehension, so I assume you noticed no one posted pictures as you read the thread. Therefore you knew no one came forward, therefore you were doing one of three things:

  1. calling out other people, without public progress yourself
  2. trolling
  3. Both

So what were you looking to achieve if not judge? Oh that’s right, you were looking to judge whether what they said was accurate or the calculator was accurate. At which point you would have shit on one or the other.

You can’t talk your way out of the truth man. It is typically impossible.

What part of that don’t you fucking get?

Why you think people should come forward publicly at your demand, when you have not yourself shown any progress what-so-ever.

And I can ask because it’s a public fucking forum.

Right, therefore make your progress public, before you demand others do the same. How is this not being comprehended?

You really are a complete fucktard.

Whaaaaaaa. Cry some more that you got called out being an assface. It is entertaining.

This fucking study and topic has been beat to death on this board.

Also if you are overly concerned with what you CANNOT achieve (ie. this calculator), this may not be the board for you. The “what CAN I achieve” attitiude typically dominates.[/quote]

Oh you mean the mentally incompetent who think they are going to be 5’10" and 250 pounds at 10% bodyfat or less NATURALLY???

Gosh I hope one day I can match your 505 deadlift. You’re really shooting for the stars bro.

And I don’t have to meet your standards for this board in order to ask if anyone met this challenge. Again, you don’t seem to get this, so maybe you should stop telling me what I need to do.

Basically no one met this challenge. And for all the talk of how people surpassed the numbers produced by the calc, none of the normal posters here passed it in lean condition. Which was Butt’s point all along. Thanks for playing dumbass.

[quote]BruceLeeFan wrote:
@Prof X:

I really dislike your view of the people on here… I wont deny that most of the people here (myself included) don’t look like weight lifters/bodybuilders, but I disagree with your view of people here being weekend warriors. I don’t know where you get the idea people workout twice a week? I know lots of guys on here more advanced than myself who train 4x a week consistently and yeah they don’t look like you or the more elite lifters here but they’re progressing.

How do you expect anyone to look like you or any of the other guys when most people here have been working out < 3years?

I wont know how big I can get until I get there. It’s kind of exciting.[/quote]

Are you fucking serious? I’ve been on this site for about 9 years. In that time, very few have even built themselves up to “looks like they lift” let alone “bigger than most”. Most of the people here train off and on…which is why so few have long term progress even if they have been on this site for longer.

You can look at people and tell how hard they are working unless they are truly new to this completely. That guy in your gym who has been there for 6 years yet hasn’t even gained an inch on his arms? Yep, that’s a fucking weekend warrior.

That guy who has been on this board for a claimed 7 years but who posts a picture of someone who looks like they may have lifted a weight 5 good times in their life? Yep, that a weekend warrior too.

Unless you truly fucking believe everyone here is a beginner who just started training, it may be time for you to realize that very few have it in them to make long term outstanding progress.

The rest do not have the drive to hit the gym several days a week for YEARS ON END. They aren’t the type who makes sacrifices for this.

They are usually simply the type who look for limits and train “off and on”.

Out of all of the people here, 10 MAY eventually build themselves up enough for people to actually be shocked on the street at their progress. The rest will never come close.

If you want to spend your time being the Pollyanna on the board, have at it.

There are those who make it to the gym in a fucking hurricane warning and those who take days off if they stub their foot getting out of bed. Guess which type makes up the majority.

[quote]Guardian58 wrote:

Oh you mean the mentally incompetent who think they are going to be 5’10" and 250 pounds at 10% bodyfat or less NATURALLY??? [/quote]

That would be a pretty big dude, no doubt. Shit.

Wow, attack my vids. Cool. Post up some video’s of yourself coward. Oh that’s right…

Yeah I picked up 505 within a year of serious training. Where’s your pull at? Oh yeah That’s right, your a coward.

Unlike you, I have my progress up for people to judge. Lol. And if you think I’m done @ 505, well you can believe whatever you wish…

You are a joke.

I’ll make ya a deal. I’ll stop when you stop. You started the bullshit this afternoon. So you put up or shut up first.

And you call me stupid…

Jesus Christ. Keep putting down the site you are posting on. That makes you look like the true genius you are.

@BruceLeeFan… If you dislike it so much, why not proof it wrong? For the most people consistency is the problem, and for whom of those have the consistency not progressing is the other problem.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Guardian58 wrote:

Oh you mean the mentally incompetent who think they are going to be 5’10" and 250 pounds at 10% bodyfat or less NATURALLY???

That would be a pretty big dude, no doubt. Shit.

Gosh I hope one day I can match your 505 hitched deadlift. You’re really shooting for the stars bro. But hey since you won’t be competing it’s “good enough”. Right? Kind of contradicts your statement there.

Wow, attack my vids. Cool. Post up some video’s of yourself coward. Oh that’s right…

Yeah I picked up 505 within a year of serious training. Where’s your pull at? Oh yeah That’s right, your a coward.

Unlike you, I have my progress up for people to judge. Lol. And if you think I’m done @ 505, well you can believe whatever you wish…

You are a joke.

And I don’t have to meet your standards for this board in order to ask if anyone met this challenge. Again, you don’t seem to get this, so maybe you should stop telling me what I need to do.

I’ll make ya a deal. I’ll stop when you stop. You started the bullshit this afternoon. So you put up or shut up first.

And you call me stupid…

Maybe you guys aren’t using enough anaconda. heh.

Jesus Christ. Keep putting down the site you are posting on. That makes you look like the true genius you are.

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No one is ever going to be 5’10" 250 @ 10% bodyfat naturally. the fact that you don’t even understand that tells me what I need to know.

And put my lifts up? I compete in powerlifting dufus. My lifts go in books. Your 505 wouldn’t even pass in a comp. Who gives a shit about gym lifts?

So I asked if anyone surpassed Casey Butt’s challenge. Since no one can forward I’ll take that as a no.

[quote]Guardian58 wrote:

No one is ever going to be 5’10" 250 @ 10% bodyfat naturally. the fact that you don’t even understand that tells me what I need to know.[/quote]

Not thinking like that they won’t.

  1. No, no you don’t
  2. How the fuck would we know that if you don’t post it? Keep calling other people stupid, and I’ll point out your glass house all day.

No one answered you, because you don’t deserve the respect of an honest answer as you hide behind your keyboard.

But go on ASSuming what ever you wish.