[quote]Shadowzz4 wrote:
[quote]Train4sport wrote:
I’d just like to offer my perspective as a Christian. I think homosexuality is wrong, BUT I can still love those that are a part of that lifestyle and I do have friends that are gay & lesbian. I think too many Christians look at the evil that’s “out there” and ignore other stuff that hits too close to home.
For example, the Bible does say that homosexual activity is wrong, but it also clearly states that whoever divorces his wife and marries another while his first wife is alive, commits adultery; it says that whoever hates another has committed murder in his heart; and whoever looks at a women to lust for her is guilty of adultery. I think the Church would have more credibility if it didn’t pick and choose which teachings it will accept.
On the issue of good Christian vs Muslim, I feel it’s pretty self evident. A true Christian is one who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ, while a true Muslim is one who follows the teachings of Mohammed. Jesus taught that we should love our enemies and do good to those that hate us, while in the Koran Mohammed often advocates war and violence against unbelievers.
Both the Koran and the Christian New Testament indicate that the man is the leader of the home and the woman is under his authority, but the instructions to the man are vastly different. The New Testament instructs husbands to love their wives as much as they love themselves. The Koran tells men that if women rebel against them, they should first talk to them, then desert them in bed, then if the woman still won’t obey, the man may beat her.
Teachings like these may be why some have a hard time with the concept of “a good Muslim.” There are of course those who call themselves Muslims that are peaceful, upstanding people, but they are not following ALL the teachings of Mohammed. Unfortunately, I feel that those who follow ALL the teachings of Jesus are also in the minority of those who call themselves Christians.[/quote]
I really haven’t read the Qur’an and maybe it does say to beat women in it, I couldn’t tell you one way or another. That may be something that you disagree with because to you and most people, that is morally wrong. Well there are probably plenty of things in the Bible that are morally wrong as well. Also when you stand by the Bible it usually means you stand by everything that is in it, am I right?
Not just oh, I will pick and choose, this passage here that talks about stoning people, oh that was just meant for tribal elders years ago thats not applicable today. But everything else is just peachy.
I just have to roll my eyes when I hear stuff about total belief in one religion over another… man. So the 1 billion muslims in the world have it all wrong if they strictly abide by the Qur’an, but the 2 billion christians are right strictly following the bible? At some point its got to be evident the differences between these two religions relate back to cultural traditions that altered the same base material over hundreds of years. If there is any truth to Islam or Christian faiths you most likely have to go back to the base material that was the same and strip away all the bullshit that was tacked on after because of cultural differences.[/quote]
What you’re missing here is the fundamental difference between the Old Testament law and the New Testament. In the Old Testament, God’s people (the Jews)were called to be a separate nation, and as such they had to establish a government. The law in the Old Testament contained rules for governing the nation and the penalties for breaking those laws. In the New Testament, God’s people (Christians) are not called to establish a nation,therefore they are not given the responsibility of punishing those who break God’s moral laws. Jesus clearly demonstrated this. When confronted with a woman caught in adultery, he did not condemn her for her sin, but told her to go and sin no more.
