^Well DHHS NIH said you need 12 apples a day or you’ll get cancer so we need to double your premium to mitigate that future cost…
Edit: Oh man Utah you F’d me up…
Sad face for you 
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
BUT when I take my kids in for an annual physical, I am asked the following questions - This is verbal, from the nurse checking us in.
Do you have a gun at home?
[/quote]
These are required questions on ACA-required intake forms.
I strongly advise lying when asked these questions, if you are a gun owner.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m sure in someway the questions allow or will allow Kaiser to increase their premiums. [/quote]
Nope, government required question.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m sure in someway the questions allow or will allow Kaiser to increase their premiums. [/quote]
Nope, government required question.
[/quote]
I’ll take your word for it. I still bet it’ll be used to increase premiums though.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m sure in someway the questions allow or will allow Kaiser to increase their premiums. [/quote]
Nope, government required question.
[/quote]
I’ll take your word for it. I still bet it’ll be used to increase premiums though. [/quote]
Nope, just a way to know who has them when they decide to take them.
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
But aren’t laws/rules/regulations what caused the issue in the first place?[/quote]
Many things help and harm, but the biggest factor in all this is natural inequality. Some people are simply better than others. When government tries to fight this fact of life, it loses.
However, government should try–not at all costs, but try–to fight the transmissibility of weakness from parents to children. It is the least surprising thing in the world when the son of an alcoholic finds his raison d’etre at the bottom of a bottle of whiskey, or when a kid who grew up in public housing has a few kids and ends up back in the projects. And without things like public school, and people in those public schools saying, “no, you can’t eat a pretzel and an ice cream sandwich for lunch, and you can’t use the word bitch in a class presentation,” the cycle is all but unbreakable.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
BUT when I take my kids in for an annual physical, I am asked the following questions - This is verbal, from the nurse checking us in.
Do you have a gun at home?
[/quote]
These are required questions on ACA-required intake forms.
I strongly advise lying when asked these questions, if you are a gun owner.
[/quote]
ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE:
Is this your legal advise?
Now all my posts here on T-Nation are covered under Attorney Client Privilege.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
But aren’t laws/rules/regulations what caused the issue in the first place?[/quote]
Many things help and harm, but the biggest factor in all this is natural inequality. Some people are simply better than others. When government tries to fight this fact of life, it loses.
However, government should try–not at all costs, but try–to fight the transmissibility of weakness from parents to children. It is the least surprising thing in the world when the son of an alcoholic finds his raison d’etre at the bottom of a bottle of whiskey, or when a kid who grew up in public housing has a few kids and ends up back in the projects. And without things like public school, and people in those public schools saying, “no, you can’t eat a pretzel and an ice cream sandwich for lunch, and you can’t use the word bitch in a class presentation,” the cycle is all but unbreakable.[/quote]
They are trying. Paying for Abortions will help? I guess not.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
But aren’t laws/rules/regulations what caused the issue in the first place?[/quote]
Many things help and harm, but the biggest factor in all this is natural inequality. Some people are simply better than others. When government tries to fight this fact of life, it loses.
However, government should try–not at all costs, but try–to fight the transmissibility of weakness from parents to children. It is the least surprising thing in the world when the son of an alcoholic finds his raison d’etre at the bottom of a bottle of whiskey, or when a kid who grew up in public housing has a few kids and ends up back in the projects. And without things like public school, and people in those public schools saying, “no, you can’t eat a pretzel and an ice cream sandwich for lunch, and you can’t use the word bitch in a class presentation,” the cycle is all but unbreakable.[/quote]
They are trying. Paying for Abortions will help? I guess not.[/quote]
I’m not pro-choice, but it is certain that rates of both poverty and crime would be higher today had abortion been illegal over the course of the past forty years.
Anyway, that’s not what I mean. I’m talking about the people who want to do away with the public school system. This is a terrible idea.
I heard a few years back of a proposal that public assistance for parents be linked to their kids’ school attendance. Things like that could do serious good.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
But aren’t laws/rules/regulations what caused the issue in the first place?[/quote]
Many things help and harm, but the biggest factor in all this is natural inequality. Some people are simply better than others. When government tries to fight this fact of life, it loses.
However, government should try–not at all costs, but try–to fight the transmissibility of weakness from parents to children. It is the least surprising thing in the world when the son of an alcoholic finds his raison d’etre at the bottom of a bottle of whiskey, or when a kid who grew up in public housing has a few kids and ends up back in the projects. And without things like public school, and people in those public schools saying, “no, you can’t eat a pretzel and an ice cream sandwich for lunch, and you can’t use the word bitch in a class presentation,” the cycle is all but unbreakable.[/quote]
They are trying. Paying for Abortions will help? I guess not.[/quote]
I’m not pro-choice, but it is certain that rates of both poverty and crime would be higher today had abortion been illegal over the course of the past forty years.
Anyway, that’s not what I mean. I’m talking about the people who want to do away with the public school system. This is a terrible idea.
I heard a few years back of a proposal that public assistance for parents be linked to their kids’ school attendance. Things like that could do serious good.[/quote]
Serious Good or Serious Harm? Last two words. just getting clarification.
My statement about abortions was tongue in cheek more about abortions helped stem the tide of stupid people.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
But aren’t laws/rules/regulations what caused the issue in the first place?[/quote]
Many things help and harm, but the biggest factor in all this is natural inequality. Some people are simply better than others. When government tries to fight this fact of life, it loses.
However, government should try–not at all costs, but try–to fight the transmissibility of weakness from parents to children. It is the least surprising thing in the world when the son of an alcoholic finds his raison d’etre at the bottom of a bottle of whiskey, or when a kid who grew up in public housing has a few kids and ends up back in the projects. And without things like public school, and people in those public schools saying, “no, you can’t eat a pretzel and an ice cream sandwich for lunch, and you can’t use the word bitch in a class presentation,” the cycle is all but unbreakable.[/quote]
It’d be great if they did something that actually helped, but you’ll never see that. You don’t win votes by changing one person at a time. You can’t see, taste, or feel those wins. The people demand ACTION. The people demand BAND-AIDS!!!
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Serious Good or Serious Harm? Last two words. just getting clarification.
[/quote]
Serious good. If we’re paying for other people to feed and clothe and house their kids, we damn sure have the right to make sure that those kids are in school every day. This way, perhaps they won’t be on the dole when they grow up.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Serious Good or Serious Harm? Last two words. just getting clarification.
[/quote]
Serious good. If we’re paying for other people to feed and clothe and house their kids, we damn sure have the right to make sure that those kids are in school every day. This way, perhaps they won’t be on the dole when they grow up.[/quote]
Just making sure. That I agree with.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
But aren’t laws/rules/regulations what caused the issue in the first place?[/quote]
Many things help and harm, but the biggest factor in all this is natural inequality. Some people are simply better than others. When government tries to fight this fact of life, it loses.
However, government should try–not at all costs, but try–to fight the transmissibility of weakness from parents to children. It is the least surprising thing in the world when the son of an alcoholic finds his raison d’etre at the bottom of a bottle of whiskey, or when a kid who grew up in public housing has a few kids and ends up back in the projects. And without things like public school, and people in those public schools saying, “no, you can’t eat a pretzel and an ice cream sandwich for lunch, and you can’t use the word bitch in a class presentation,” the cycle is all but unbreakable.[/quote]
They are trying. Paying for Abortions will help? I guess not.[/quote]
I’m talking about the people who want to do away with the public school system. This is a terrible idea.
I heard a few years back of a proposal that public assistance for parents be linked to their kids’ school attendance. Things like that could do serious good.[/quote]
It is a terrible idea to close the public school system. It’s unworkable. The problem is you have a bunch of teachers who either a) can’t teach b) are essentially hired as chaperones c) are hired only to teach “required test materials” for bullshit standardized testing d) are not supported on discipline matters when they try to control people or e) are stupid enough that they give an 7 year old kid suspension for pointing his fingers in the shape of a gun and saying “bang”. Or a combination of the above.
I do however agree with linking welfare to school attendance. I would like to say grades, but that would likely just lead to new and improved ways of lowering the bar and subject matter taught further.
A little off topic, but…Does anyone think it is out of the question for the government to slowly poison everyday materials that we are basically forced to use (toothpaste, deodorant, in this case school lunches)? It’s somewhat crazy but there’s no way in hell I’m taking anything free from the government, let alone something free that they inject me with (flu shots).
[quote]chobbs wrote:
A little off topic, but…Does anyone think it is out of the question for the government to slowly poison everyday materials that we are basically forced to use (toothpaste, deodorant, in this case school lunches)? It’s somewhat crazy but there’s no way in hell I’m taking anything free from the government, let alone something free that they inject me with (flu shots).[/quote]
It’s a bit tin foil hatish…What would they gain by poisoning the populace?
And, what would the lose if the populace found out?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]chobbs wrote:
A little off topic, but…Does anyone think it is out of the question for the government to slowly poison everyday materials that we are basically forced to use (toothpaste, deodorant, in this case school lunches)? It’s somewhat crazy but there’s no way in hell I’m taking anything free from the government, let alone something free that they inject me with (flu shots).[/quote]
It’s a bit tin foil hatish…What would they gain by poisoning the populace?
And, what would the lose if the populace found out? [/quote]
Perhaps a mind controlling bacteria? 
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]chobbs wrote:
A little off topic, but…Does anyone think it is out of the question for the government to slowly poison everyday materials that we are basically forced to use (toothpaste, deodorant, in this case school lunches)? It’s somewhat crazy but there’s no way in hell I’m taking anything free from the government, let alone something free that they inject me with (flu shots).[/quote]
It’s a bit tin foil hatish…What would they gain by poisoning the populace?
And, what would the lose if the populace found out? [/quote]
More people getting disease/cancer…less social security money they have to pay out bc these people might die before the age
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
BUT when I take my kids in for an annual physical, I am asked the following questions - This is verbal, from the nurse checking us in.
Do you have a gun at home?
[/quote]
These are required questions on ACA-required intake forms.
I strongly advise lying when asked these questions, if you are a gun owner.
[/quote]
ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE:
Is this your legal advise?
Now all my posts here on T-Nation are covered under Attorney Client Privilege.
[/quote]
No it’s my advice from a guy whose family was suddenly asked probing religious questions in a 1933 census in Germany when they used to just count the people and get names and ages.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
BUT when I take my kids in for an annual physical, I am asked the following questions - This is verbal, from the nurse checking us in.
Do you have a gun at home?
[/quote]
These are required questions on ACA-required intake forms.
I strongly advise lying when asked these questions, if you are a gun owner.
[/quote]
ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE:
Is this your legal advise?
Now all my posts here on T-Nation are covered under Attorney Client Privilege.
[/quote]
No it’s my advice from a guy whose family was suddenly asked probing religious questions in a 1933 census in Germany when they used to just count the people and get names and ages.
[/quote]
I know.