When my government assumes I am either too stupid, or too lazy to make my kid a sandwich… Well, that’s pretty damn depressing.
If it comes to this, there will be push back. I’m torn between homeschooling, and sending my kids to school with a lunch of doughnuts and Dr. Pepper just out of spite. Of course, they’d probably call social services.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
They’re just wiggling the knob right now.
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I think the door is already open. Now we are just trying to close it again before they come through the door.
You guys fell for the scam.
This is about a jobs program, Unionized cafeteria worker jobs, not a “feed the children” program.
We tried a free breakfast program here in LA schools, then when the kids didn’t bother to take advantage, the schools pushed that the kids eat in the classroom. Teachers complained of rodents and filth in the classroom, but the schools persisted with the eat in class program.
"“Parents, make no mistake: teachers are not trying to deny your child of breakfast at school. We believe that breakfast should happen before the instructional day begins, and in the cafeteria instead of the classroom,” United Teachers Los Angeles said in a statement.
The program was originally housed in cafeterias, but students failed to show up before class, school officials said. With the program held during class, LAUSD officials can make sure the students get fed."
My daughter complains about the food all the time. The breakfast is not cooked and the biscuits are wet. Some of the kids have actually gotten food poisoning. My daughter takes her lunch every day.
When I grew up the food was not that bad at school. We also had PE every day, and recess every day. My daughter gets PE 2-3 times a week and no recess.
I’m seeing a lot of confirmation bias in this thread. The link provided in the OP looks bogus. I don’t think the federal government is trying to ban children from bringing in their own food, and the article doesn’t provide any evidence that it is. Just a picture of one random letter.
Obviously it would be terrible if the federal government forced children to eat food provided by the school. But that is not what is going on. All of the anger in this thread is unwarranted and misplaced.
[quote]BPCorso wrote:
I’m seeing a lot of confirmation bias in this thread. The link provided in the OP looks bogus. I don’t think the federal government is trying to ban children from bringing in their own food, and the article doesn’t provide any evidence that it is. Just a picture of one random letter.
Obviously it would be terrible if the federal government forced children to eat food provided by the school. But that is not what is going on. All of the anger in this thread is unwarranted and misplaced.[/quote]
Well the government does incentivise the schools if free lunch is given out. The school required me to fill out a form to see if we were eligible to get free lunches. I knew we were not, but they told me my daughter would lose a grade level if we did not. They wanted to make sure they got as much money from the federal government as they could.
Relevance?
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]BPCorso wrote:
I’m seeing a lot of confirmation bias in this thread. The link provided in the OP looks bogus. I don’t think the federal government is trying to ban children from bringing in their own food, and the article doesn’t provide any evidence that it is. Just a picture of one random letter.
Obviously it would be terrible if the federal government forced children to eat food provided by the school. But that is not what is going on. All of the anger in this thread is unwarranted and misplaced.[/quote]
All of it, huh? Wow, you’re pretty much a seer, aren’t you?[/quote]
Do I have to caveat everything I type in this forum? Ok dude, “a lot” of the anger in this thread is unwarranted. If the link the OP provided you made you angry than I think you have confirmation bias.
I am against the federal government banning children from bringing in their own lunch. But the federal government is not doing this, so I don’t get where the anger is coming from. You would be hard pressed to find anyone promoting the banning of home lunches.
Who is there to be angry at? What is there to be angry at? One random letter posted on the internet? Give me a break.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]BPCorso wrote:
I’m seeing a lot of confirmation bias in this thread. The link provided in the OP looks bogus. I don’t think the federal government is trying to ban children from bringing in their own food, and the article doesn’t provide any evidence that it is. Just a picture of one random letter.
Obviously it would be terrible if the federal government forced children to eat food provided by the school. But that is not what is going on. All of the anger in this thread is unwarranted and misplaced.[/quote]
Well the government does incentivise the schools if free lunch is given out. The school required me to fill out a form to see if we were eligible to get free lunches. I knew we were not, but they told me my daughter would lose a grade level if we did not. They wanted to make sure they got as much money from the federal government as they could.
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About the form and your daughter losing a grade - That is interesting, and an example of the broken institution that is our public school system. Can’t say I blame the school admins for wanting to squeeze every last drop they could out of the program. But it’s not right.
You’re not saying they would force your daughter to consume the free lunches in lieu of your home lunches, are you? (hypothetically if your family qualified for the program) If that is the case that is supremely fucked up and un-American.
[quote]Pabro wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
James Madison must be writhing in pain in his coffin all the more seeing his federal government descending into abject oligarchical tyranny.
King George III was a laid back libertarian compared with what we have now.
The ghost of Thomas Jefferson is compiling another “history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.” [/quote]
Amen, man. This country is a major s***hole compared to the rest of the civilized world.[/quote]
I can’t tell whether you’ve never been to any other countries in the civilized world, and are being sarcastic, or have, and are not.
[quote]BPCorso wrote:
I’m seeing a lot of confirmation bias in this thread… [/quote]
You must be new to PWI…take a chair and stay a while…they call me bellyflop…it’s hilarious to some of them.
[quote]BPCorso wrote:
Do I have to caveat everything I type in this forum? [/quote]
lol pretty much. Coincidentally enough, the idiot you were replying to is the worst offender. Keep a tally of how many of his posts are actual meaningful, thoughtful dissertation on a subject versus how many are just boorish attention seekers.
[quote]BPCorso wrote:
Who is there to be angry at? What is there to be angry at? One random letter posted on the internet? Give me a break.[/quote]
But…but…butt…guberment is bad!!! and uhh…they are gonan take err guns…and uhh…Reagan!
[quote]BPCorso wrote:
Do I have to caveat everything I type in this forum? Ok dude, [/quote]
Absofuckinglutly if you disagree
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
The thing is, it isn’t the federal government but a decision by the school. [/quote]
Assuming the blog you posted is accurate.
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It does seem to be a policy by some subsidized preschools, not a federal policy. There is no evidence that the particular note in OP link is real, but I found several people online saying that this is a policy at some preschools/ headstarts.
There are financial incentives to have the kids eat the provided lunch. That part is real. Also, likely liability issues related to issues like kids with peanut allergies.
Related to some of the comments about free lunch programs, the New Mexico elementary school I attended as a kid now has classroom pizza parties if ALL the kids in the class submit an application for the free lunch program. This policy creates peer pressure for kids to get their parents to fill out the forms. Friends of ours, with a combined income over $200,000 per year, refused. They had to call the school to complain and told them that they would buy pizza for their kid’s class, but they would not submit the free lunch application. There are incentives for schools to be “low income.”
The fact is federal laws or policies by federal/state programs is the source of such issues as we are describing. Whether the law specifically requires something is way to black and white way of looking at things.
Everyone knows if you dangle a carrot in front of a horse, that horse will start moving. In this case, insert “money” for “carrot” and “horse” for “zombie citizen”.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
The thing is, it isn’t the federal government but a decision by the school. [/quote]
Assuming the blog you posted is accurate.
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It does seem to be a policy by some subsidized preschools, not a federal policy. There is no evidence that the particular note in OP link is real, but I found several people online saying that this is a policy at some preschools/ headstarts.
There are financial incentives to have the kids eat the provided lunch. That part is real. Also, likely liability issues related to issues like kids with peanut allergies.
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Agreed. I wasn’t able to find any additional information to the contrary. I tend to be a little leery of blog posts as a general rule.
Zecarlo typically posts solid stuff though.
[quote]BPCorso wrote:
Obviously it would be terrible if the federal government forced children to eat food provided by the school. But that is not what is going on. All of the anger in this thread is unwarranted and misplaced.[/quote]
Not the U.S., but it’s not unreasonable to believe policies such as the one in the link aren’t coming to America in the future.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
When my government assumes I am either too stupid, or too lazy to make my kid a sandwich… Well, that’s pretty damn depressing.
If it comes to this, there will be push back. I’m torn between homeschooling, and sending my kids to school with a lunch of doughnuts and Dr. Pepper just out of spite. Of course, they’d probably call social services. [/quote]
It’s more about thinking poor people are too stupid and in general they are probably right. This won’t be coming to the 'burbs. This is probably in response to something that the parents have done, or not done.