Hillary Develops Southern Accent

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]lixy wrote:
To the outside observer, the only difference between the left and right on your foreign policy is that the left implements it more quietly. The right is much more arrogant, but at the end of the day, it’s exactly the same interventionist shit.
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I’m finding myself more and more in favor of telling the rest of the world to fuck off.

Kill your own tyrants, settle your own civil wars, put an end to your own genocide. Protect your own country from being invaded (Kuwait and Sadam for example).

Take back all our fighter jets and other military technology (even the stuff we gave to N. Korea).

Pack up every one of our troops, bring them ALL home. Since 1950, 54 countries have hosted at least 1000 American troops. Get’em all home.

Total U.S. international assistance in the year 2000 was 56.2 Billion. (and no, I don’t really care whether other countries give more or less.)

Not another red cent… to anyone.

No military protection, no aid no nothing. Then everybody’d be bitching about us, oh wait they already are.

Approximately 1,426,713 personnel are currently on active duty in the military with an additional 1,259,000 personnel in the seven reserve components (53,000 of whom are in the Army and Air National Guard).Set them all up along our border Then let’s see another illegal alien get across our borders THEN!

If your damned if you do, and damned if you don’t, then just DON’T! With all the money being spent in Iraq, we could build a missle-defense system over the US better than anything yet contrived!

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[quote]lixy wrote:

A country that has enough nukes to blow up the solar system, spends around half a trillion dollar on the military (real figure!), has hundreds of bases in over a hundred countries on all continents and bombed more countries than any other has done in history needs to get strong on national defense? Are the Martians attacking?
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And yet we’ve never been invaded by another country. That kinda makes me feel all warm inside!

I have a novel idea. Lets disband our military, dismantle our nukes etc. and sit back and PRAY that no one hurts us.

Oh to be neutral and lucky like Sweden!

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[quote]derek wrote:
lixy wrote:

A country that has enough nukes to blow up the solar system, spends around half a trillion dollar on the military (real figure!), has hundreds of bases in over a hundred countries on all continents and bombed more countries than any other has done in history needs to get strong on national defense? Are the Martians attacking?

And yet we’ve never been invaded by another country. That kinda makes me feel all warm inside!

I have a novel idea. Lets disband our military, dismantle our nukes etc. and sit back and PRAY that no one hurts us.

Oh to be neutral and lucky like Sweden![/quote]

Ever read anything about the game theory?

No matter what our enemies do, it’s always more beneficial for us to build more weapons. And seriously? Enough nukes to make the entire world uninhabitable a few times over may be more than enough…

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[quote]derek wrote:
lixy wrote:
To the outside observer, the only difference between the left and right on your foreign policy is that the left implements it more quietly. The right is much more arrogant, but at the end of the day, it’s exactly the same interventionist shit.

I’m finding myself more and more in favor of telling the rest of the world to fuck off.

Kill your own tyrants, settle your own civil wars, put an end to your own genocide. Protect your own country from being invaded (Kuwait and Sadam for example).

Take back all our fighter jets and other military technology (even the stuff we gave to N. Korea).

Pack up every one of our troops, bring them ALL home. Since 1950, 54 countries have hosted at least 1000 American troops. Get’em all home.

Total U.S. international assistance in the year 2000 was 56.2 Billion. (and no, I don’t really care whether other countries give more or less.)

Not another red cent… to anyone.

No military protection, no aid no nothing. Then everybody’d be bitching about us, oh wait they already are.

Approximately 1,426,713 personnel are currently on active duty in the military with an additional 1,259,000 personnel in the seven reserve components (53,000 of whom are in the Army and Air National Guard).Set them all up along our border Then let’s see another illegal alien get across our borders THEN!

If your damned if you do, and damned if you don’t, then just DON’T! With all the money being spent in Iraq, we could build a missle-defense system over the US better than anything yet contrived!

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Most of the time I agree with this.

Or, if they want to intervene, than stop making the US troops make up the bulk… make the French and British put as many troops in. Hell, our loyal British friends have how many troops in Iraq? 7,000? 10,000? And how many do we have?

Formenting democracy is one thing. Fighting wars for other countries is another.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Formenting democracy is one thing. Fighting wars for other countries is another. [/quote]

Yes. I’m all for letting other countries fight thier own fights from now on.

Is it reasonable to assume if they REALLY wanted democracy, they’d be fighting for it themselves? (or they SHOULD be?)

“They” being Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.

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[quote]Beowolf wrote:
JeffR wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
brucevangeorge wrote:
Cool. This is extacly like Bush developing some sort of military record before his campaign.

Or claiming you were named after Sir Edmund Hillary (of Mt. Everest fame) but he climbed Mt. Everest 3 years after you were born.

Does who she was named after really matter?

No.

Does the presidents military record, and AWOL record matter?

That’d be a yes, HH.

beowolf,

Please correct me if I’m wrong, however, it sounds like you are sympathetic towards hillary.

You may be the only liberal besides mufasa who seems to be even luke warm about her.

Out of sincere curiousity, what is it that attracts you to her?

What stance in particular do you agree with?

If her name was Jane Smith and not clinton, would it matter to you?

I’m sincerely curious.

Thanks in advance,

JeffR

I’m sympathetic to her only in the sense that there are those who seek to ruin her simply because she is married to Bill.

As for her policy, I do not know enough to make a real comment. All I can say with a bit of conviction is she’s been damn OK for NY. Is damn OK good enough for a presidential candidate? I don’t know.

Personality wise, I think she comes off as VERY insincere (regardless of whether she is or not). However, with Bill backing her, she has some power I’d like to see put to use for good things.

I doubt she’d ever be elected. She’s female and married to a man who is so great (or so awful, depending on who you talk to) it’s going to be hard for her to ever REALLY escape from his shadow.

Barak Obama as well, has little chance at election due to his easily exploitable sort-of Muslim background and of course his skin color. Too many racist fucks still live in this country for us to see a black president. Though he has a better chance than a Gay guy or an Atheist in these days.

I’d actually like to see Ron Paul or Mike Huckabee win it on the conservative side. But I know that they both really don’t have a good shot.

As for the left side of the fence, I’d love it if Gore ran again. I think he’s gained a lot of charisma since he started his global warming crusade. And I’ve always favored his policy (though I’m a bit biased, as he was the first politician I ever really saw speak, learned about, and became interested in). Once again, I doubt he’d even consider running.

I don’t really like Hilary so much as I feel a bit of anger towards the way people make mountains out of molehills. Like the fact she didn’t really know who she was named after, or that she used a southern accent during a presentation in an attempt to sound colloquial while reading a quotation.[/quote]

beowolf,

Thanks for the honest answer.

Based on what you and irish are saying seems to give a good indication of why she won’t make it out of the primaries.

Please also remember that obama has political liabilities that make him unelectable. Take a look at his illinois voting record.

It’s not good.

JeffR