Higher Body Weight, Bigger LIfts?

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

Is it useful to allow for more fat gain than “necessary” to reap the strength benefits? I would say no, because you will also lose (some of) them when you cut down. Of course, when you don’t plan to cut down any time soon, there might be a place for this strategy.[/quote]

Yeah, I would listen to people who actually did it.
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We are in the powerlifting sub-forum, yes? You talk about how your extra bw helped with lateral raises and shrugs. We don’t care. You don’t even do the big 3, do you? So your experience is of little use to the discussion. Actually begs the question why you post in the powerlifting sub-forum at all.

I, on the other hand, have direct experience with the subject and how it applies to the big 3 (aka powerlifting).[/quote]

I actually used to train more like a powerlifter and even did a few nminor meets when I was in school.

I grew up around powerlifters. Got to see that short Hawaiian big powerlifter train for months back when he was in Houston.

You don’t know me well enough to tell me what I do or don’t know.

What I wrote falls right in line with this thread. [/quote]

This is the powerlifting forum, take your trolling crap somewhere else. We don’t care about your bullshit stories.

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[quote]Caltene wrote:

This is the powerlifting forum, take your trolling crap somewhere else. We don’t care about your bullshit stories.[/quote]

If my post didn’t relate to the topic at all, you would have a point.

Unfortunately for you, it did.

Therefore, unless people are kicking you out of the other forums on this site, stick to the topic…and the personal attacks weren’t needed at all. No “trolling” in my posts here at all. Just you acting like an ass.

Is it ok to return to the topic now…or will there be another 50 posts about me posting here?

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[quote]Caltene wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

Is it useful to allow for more fat gain than “necessary” to reap the strength benefits? I would say no, because you will also lose (some of) them when you cut down. Of course, when you don’t plan to cut down any time soon, there might be a place for this strategy.[/quote]

Yeah, I would listen to people who actually did it.
[/quote]

We are in the powerlifting sub-forum, yes? You talk about how your extra bw helped with lateral raises and shrugs. We don’t care. You don’t even do the big 3, do you? So your experience is of little use to the discussion. Actually begs the question why you post in the powerlifting sub-forum at all.

I, on the other hand, have direct experience with the subject and how it applies to the big 3 (aka powerlifting).[/quote]

I actually used to train more like a powerlifter and even did a few nminor meets when I was in school.

I grew up around powerlifters. Got to see that short Hawaiian big powerlifter train for months back when he was in Houston.

You don’t know me well enough to tell me what I do or don’t know.

What I wrote falls right in line with this thread. [/quote]

This is the powerlifting forum, take your trolling crap somewhere else. We don’t care about your bullshit stories.[/quote]

Reel it in there big guy. Don’t read what you don’t like. Let the rest of us decide for ourselves what we think is relevant.

Clearly I can’t relate to the 120+ guys as I lift at 63 but mass moves mass.

Regarding recovery, I used to lift at 56 and moved up because lower body fat made my recovery poor. When I got a bit bigger, my lifts increased by more than the weight I gained. i.e. my wilks went up quite a bit. However, I’m sure there’s a point of diminishing returns.

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[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Clearly I can’t relate to the 120+ guys as I lift at 63 but mass moves mass.

Regarding recovery, I used to lift at 56 and moved up because lower body fat made my recovery poor. When I got a bit bigger, my lifts increased by more than the weight I gained. i.e. my wilks went up quite a bit. However, I’m sure there’s a point of diminishing returns.
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Goddamn metric system.

And I agree about recovery and diminishing returns. You want enough weight and fat to recover and be strong but not so much that walking up the stairs is considered conditioning.

james

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oh gosh not this tired argument again

geared lifters vs raw lifters vs lateral raisers

we’re ALL powerlifters, let’s just get along