[quote]BruceBanner wrote:
No one ever got big doing only reps of 15+, I assure you.
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Actually someone like Kiyoshi Moody has trained almost exclusively with high reps his entire training career, and there are plenty of bodybuilders that never go below 15 reps for any thigh or calf exercises.
Blanket statements like this are dumb.
[quote]mr popular wrote:
BruceBanner wrote:
No one ever got big doing only reps of 15+, I assure you.
Actually someone like Kiyoshi Moody has trained almost exclusively with high reps his entire training career, and there are plenty of bodybuilders that never go below 15 reps for any thigh or calf exercises.
Blanket statements like this are dumb.[/quote]
LOL bro look at Branch when training delts doing like 20 reps w/315 seated partials, so I get from this that he could have been bigger if he trained differently?
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
mr popular wrote:
BruceBanner wrote:
No one ever got big doing only reps of 15+, I assure you.
Actually someone like Kiyoshi Moody has trained almost exclusively with high reps his entire training career, and there are plenty of bodybuilders that never go below 15 reps for any thigh or calf exercises.
Blanket statements like this are dumb.
LOL bro look at Branch when training delts doing like 20 reps w/315 seated partials, so I get from this that he could have been bigger if he trained differently?[/quote]
Duh, that is why Flex Wheeler’s thighs were so crappy, because he only ever trained them with 20+ repetitions.
The 4-10 range is great, but exceptions to that are for deadlifts (I like to keep them in the 1-5 range), leg press (10-20 range), and Shrugs (20+)
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
dankid wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
So why would he do 10+ now that he is really strong?
Btw you spelt ‘trouble’ wrong. =(
Because doing a set of 300x15 on bench is a hell of a lot more effective than 135x15.
So the Prof should stop training with “low” reps now that he’s strong?
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Yeah, because he needs to do sets of 15 reps to burn the fat off and to get functional
Reps 1-5: Useless
Reps 6-10: Pretty good strength and size gains
Reps 11-14: Mostly pure size gains
Rep 15: The perfect fat burning zone and to get functional
Reps 16-20: Useless
Reps 21+: Endurance stuff
Note, those last 2 reps, no matter how many reps you do total, are the only reps that really do anything.
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
Sarev0k wrote:
bob84 wrote:
He also says that with high rep training only, much of the growth is the result of transient factors such as fluid retention and glycogen storage, but muscle hard as a granite wall through power training comes as a result of an actual increase in muscle fiber size.
AKA Sarcoplasmic and Myofibrillar Hypertrophy.
There’s no conclusive research to back up this idea, they’re just fancy terms that writers like to throw around to make their training ideas sound cool. The only thing people need to worry about is finding what works for them, and eating.[/quote]
No conclusive research, yet the principles work.
Don’t hate on me X, i just like the concept.
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
dankid wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
So why would he do 10+ now that he is really strong?
Btw you spelt ‘trouble’ wrong. =(
Because doing a set of 300x15 on bench is a hell of a lot more effective than 135x15.
So the Prof should stop training with “low” reps now that he’s strong?
Yeah, because he needs to do sets of 15 reps to burn the fat off and to get functional
Reps 1-5: Useless
Reps 6-10: Pretty good strength and size gains
Reps 11-14: Mostly pure size gains
Rep 15: The perfect fat burning zone and to get functional
Reps 16-20: Useless
Reps 21+: Endurance stuff
Note, those last 2 reps, no matter how many reps you do total, are the only reps that really do anything.[/quote]
LOL @ 1-5 = useless
5x5? small powerlifters? what what?
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
BulletproofTiger wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
dankid wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
So why would he do 10+ now that he is really strong?
Btw you spelt ‘trouble’ wrong. =(
Because doing a set of 300x15 on bench is a hell of a lot more effective than 135x15.
So the Prof should stop training with “low” reps now that he’s strong?
Yeah, because he needs to do sets of 15 reps to burn the fat off and to get functional
Reps 1-5: Useless
Reps 6-10: Pretty good strength and size gains
Reps 11-14: Mostly pure size gains
Rep 15: The perfect fat burning zone and to get functional
Reps 16-20: Useless
Reps 21+: Endurance stuff
Note, those last 2 reps, no matter how many reps you do total, are the only reps that really do anything.
LOL @ 1-5 = useless
5x5? small powerlifters? what what?
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I think your sarcasm detector failed. Fuckin '09er
10 x 3
sets of 1 at near max with a 30-60 count between reps…on the compounds
[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
Sarev0k wrote:
BulletproofTiger wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
dankid wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
So why would he do 10+ now that he is really strong?
Btw you spelt ‘trouble’ wrong. =(
Because doing a set of 300x15 on bench is a hell of a lot more effective than 135x15.
So the Prof should stop training with “low” reps now that he’s strong?
Yeah, because he needs to do sets of 15 reps to burn the fat off and to get functional
Reps 1-5: Useless
Reps 6-10: Pretty good strength and size gains
Reps 11-14: Mostly pure size gains
Rep 15: The perfect fat burning zone and to get functional
Reps 16-20: Useless
Reps 21+: Endurance stuff
Note, those last 2 reps, no matter how many reps you do total, are the only reps that really do anything.
LOL @ 1-5 = useless
5x5? small powerlifters? what what?
I think your sarcasm detector failed. Fuckin '09er[/quote]
40 sets of 4 or 4 sets of 40?
fail thread is fail
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
fail thread is fail[/quote]
This thread has received the ‘‘Voice of the forum’’ award.
You fail
The thread only failed in as much as those are looking for the holy grail won’t find it here.
I roll a pair of dice before every workout to determine reps and sets.
I guess it wasn’t a complete fail in that if someone were to read it thinking that one rep scheme was the best they would probably change their mind.
I retract my statement of thread failure, good day.
[quote]WP wrote:
I roll a pair of dice before every workout to determine reps and sets.[/quote]
Imagine that though…you rolled two dice and multiplied them together to get the total number of reps per exercise each workout. Set out like 5-6 exercises, and you have to lift the heaviest weight for the number of reps you roll in like a rest-pause style if you have to…
Could work out to be the best program ever…then what would it say about trying to prescribe to traditional set/rep ranges.
Would be a catchy name too, the DICE program LOL
