We all know Yams and Oats are low-moderate glycemic. All of us here can eat these foods with a great degree of discipline as we’re commited to weightlifting.
As a Personal Trainer now, I have found a couple clients who refuse to follow the strict guidelines I gave them because they’re Natural from Syria and refuse to completely abandon their mediterranean diet, even if for just 6 weeks to lose weight. They are very enthusiastic and Im trying to find a way for them to keep their pita bread and some of their traditional meals.
I am looking for nothing but the very best results for these girls. With this in mind, and because they need to stick to it for the whole 6 weeks, rather than drop out of their diet after a few days, I’m wondering if eating a moderate-high glycemic index food, couple with pure fiber would bring the insulin response down comparable to that of oatmeal or yams.
I believe JB wrote in an Appetite for Construction “Q&A” that fiber actually illicits a high insulin response. That said, glycemic response would be lowered but I believe the Insulin response would be heightened.
Diesel, AFAIK the mediterranean diet is actually pretty good in terms of keeping health. Lots of fats/oils and greens.
Now it seems you are having the real fun of personal training, in that people don’t always want to follow your recommendations. I will say one thing, at least they are admitting to you they won’t follow it. What sucks worse is when they lie about following it.
Now’s your chance to really shine and let them eat their diet and still get the job done. I think it’s possible assuming they are following their diet pretty well (ie not eating all sorts of crappy man made fake oils and so on).
At first glance, I think it’s relatively safe to assume that adding a fiber supplement (i.e. psyllium husks) to a higher glycemic carbohydrate would mediate the glycemic and possibly the insulinemic responses. One could assume that the fiber would have the effect of slowing gastric emptying and thus modifying the aforementioned physiological variables.
However, here’s how one of my professors explains this and how I feel may be an accurate assessment. Adding a fiber supplement is not the same as get the fiber in the food. In whole-grains (i.e. oats, beans, etc.), the grain is still intact and contained within the fiber. Therefore, the body has to break through the fiber first, then it has access to the carbohydrate.
However, in the case of the added fiber, the grain and the fiber are separate entities. Therefore, the body has access to the grain right away, without potential interference from the fiber. This is a possible explanation as to why a highly processed, high-fiber food like All Bran elicits the insulin response that it does.
Antiliberal, is right you can get the job done w/o them listing to you the nutrition side. You just got to work them out harder. In a sense. Think of it this way. And Antiliberal is also correct the true mediterranean diet is all not that bad either. Find out how much caliores they are intaking each day and then make sure they burn ex amount of calories when they work-out with you. Glad that you are doing your thing Desiel.
By the way I hope I wasn’t to hard on in the past post. I really wasn’t trying to be a dick I was just trying to help out.
You’ll get a lot of clients that won’t do what you tell them.
Just, wait until you get a client that says I just want to train w/ machines period no if ands or butts. If that ever happens here’s a suggestion go with the flow as per say in the beginning and once they get comfortable w/ you then move on to free weight.
You come across a lot of senerios Diesel that I am sure you can handle.
Just keep in mind Personal Training has a lot to with problem solving and you will be fine. And have fun with it.
Uh, if you’ve tried personal training, then you know that if your client completely ignores your nutritional advice gains and progress will be extremely hard to come by, especially when fat loss is the goal.
People’s eating habits really aren’t that good!
As a matter of fact, most individuals that start an exercise program without proper guidance in nutrition really don’t make much change in the composition of their bodies.
Unlike most masochists here, the average individual doesn’t count kcals and does listen to hunger! With the increase in energy expenditure, they’ll increase energy intake! Train them harder, they’ll eat more food…and more calorically dense foods, too!
Keep up the good work, Diesel, and stay adamant in your recommendations. Help your clients ,i>modify their current as opposed to giving them a recipe for failure. When you begin to train athletes and bodybuilders, then you can tell them what and when to eat.
Yes, Timbo your correct the two go hand in hand nutrition and training but what if the client won’t listen to you on the nutrition part and still wants you to get him to the goal that he/she wants. What are u to do? You can’t control what they can do when they go outside of the gym can you?
On, the other hand most clients will listen to you on both nutrition and training if you have establish a good relationship between each other.
If I have clients who blatantly dont follow my advice I give them warnings, try to get them back on track. If that has no effect I fire them, plenty more where they came from.
“If that has no effect I fire them, plenty more where they came from.” - Pikeking
‘Mrs Atkins, this is Jim Lucibello from World Gym. I’m afraid this isnt going to workout, you paying me to train you. You’re fired. Feel free to use m as a reference though’.
LOL, that was pretty funny.
Fitone, I’m not mad at all. Also, my very first client was very adamant about wanting to train exclusively with machines - but I got her to do a couple exercises in the ‘boys room’. So far, I’m having a great time training other people - I went in with the thought I’d be training somebody who had a good level of strength and some knowledge, and now I realize it’s the exact opposite…these are all beginners who can barely do a complete squat (if at all), with no nutrition knowledge whatsoever, and with rather poor discipline. So there is lots of work to do.